OBAMACARE: Will Increase Avg. Individual-Market Insurance Premiums By 99% For Men, 62% For Women

[Whirlaway]

And the fact that CJ thinks premiums aren't going up under Obamacare !!!!!!!!!!!!

Originally Posted by LovingKayla

The only thing I got out of this was assup has a shit fetish.

[CJ7]

Originally Posted by Whirlaway

And the fact that CJ thinks premiums aren't going up under Obamacare !!!!!!!!!!!!

guess we'll know if that's true soon enough wont we ?


right now, you're just pissing in your pants as usual

[IIFFOFRDB]

Eikood Rider and his SHIT posse.

[i'va biggen]

Texas is going to have some of the lowest rates in the nation.

[Whirlaway]

Your fascination with my pants is creepy......................yo u and AssUp have a fixation on body fluids...........what's up with that?


Are you still standing by the phony lie that Obamacare is going to bend the cost curve of health care and reduce premiums for most working Americans ?

Originally Posted by CJ7

guess we'll know if that's true soon enough wont we ?


right now, you're just pissing in your pants as usual

[CJ7]

Originally Posted by Whirlaway

Your fascination with my pants is creepy......................yo u and AssUp have a fixation on body fluids...........what's up with that?


Are you still standing by the phony lie that Obamacare is going to bend the cost curve of health care and reduce premiums for most working Americans ?

I'm still waiting to see what takes place after the law goes into effect rather than blow smoke up everyone's dress like you constantly do ...

novel concept isn't it ?

[Mr MojoRisin]

Geesh, I can't believe you people. Obamacare is nothing miraculous. You buy an insurance premium if you get sick or injured you go to the Doctor get treated and then pay a co-payment. That's pretty much what is happening now. The only difference is Obamacare entices those who have never had health insurance or couldn't afford it the illusion of affordability. Those who have always had Health insurance either through their jobs or on their own may see some differences in the cost of some areas of their coverage. The real big difference is businesses are forced to provide Healthcare for their employees where as before Obamacare they weren't required to. Obamacare is really the first step in totally revamping the Healthcare system as we know it.

Jim

[Whirlaway]

The only difference ?

You ignore the fact that 100,000 of workers are being cut back below the 38 hour work week threshold due to Obamacare.......you ignore the 20,000 pages of regulations that will sink small business..........

[CJ7]

Originally Posted by Whirlaway

The only difference ?

You ignore the fact that 100,000 of workers are being cut back below the 38 hour work week threshold due to Obamacare.......you ignore the 20,000 pages of regulations that will sink small business..........

The bill in fact contains substantial benefits (some might even say giveaways) for small businesses. That starts with a program already under way to offer special subsidies to firms with fewer than 25 employees that want to offer health benefits. As long as your employees earn less than $50,000 on average (law firms, medical practices, and other elite professional partnership are thus ineligible), you can get a tax credit to defray 35 percent of the cost of the insurance if you’re a for-profit firm, and 25 percent if you’re a nonprofit. When the law really gets rolling in 2014, those subsidies rise to 50 percent for for-profits and 35 percent for nonprofits.
Firms with fewer than 50 employees are also exempt from the “employer responsibility” provision of the law that otherwise constitutes the biggest business burden in the legislation.The Affordable Care Act (in)famously requires that all individuals who don’t receive insurance from their employer or from a government program such as Medicare or Medicaid must buy their own insurance on a regulated exchange. Subsidies will be provided to those for whom such insurance wouldn’t be affordable. That could be seen as, in effect, penalizing firms that already offer insurance to their workers. To offset this, the law stipulates that companies whose employees receive subsidies to buy exchange plans must pay a financial penalty. That is supposed to deter firms from responding to the law by simply dropping existing insurance coverage. But the ACA doesn’t make small businesses pay that penalty.

Put the special subsidies and the exemption together, and the result is a law that’s pretty clearly a good deal for small businesses.

[I B Hankering]

Originally Posted by Mr MojoRisin

Geesh, I can't believe you people. Obamacare is nothing miraculous. You buy an insurance premium if you get sick or injured you go to the Doctor get treated and then pay a co-payment. That's pretty much what is happening now. The only difference is Obamacare entices those who have never had health insurance or couldn't afford it the illusion of affordability. Those who have always had Health insurance either through their jobs or on their own may see some differences in the cost of some areas of their coverage. The real big difference is businesses are forced to provide Healthcare for their employees where as before Obamacare they weren't required to. Obamacare is really the first step in totally revamping the Healthcare system as we know it.

Jim

You are so very wrong! Odumbocare redefined the work week and put burdensome obligations on individuals and employers that never existed before. Plus, it expanded the government's bureaucracy to manage and enforce the law.

[CJ7]

Originally Posted by I B Hankering

You are so very wrong! Odumbocare redefined the work week and put burdensome obligations on individuals and employers that never existed before. Plus, it expanded the government's bureaucracy to manage and enforce the law.

and when it goes into effect ....

[I B Hankering]

Originally Posted by CJ7

and when it goes into effect ....

CBJ7 you cannot be so ignorant as to argue and deny that hundreds of IRS agents have not already been hired to help enforce this law, and that companies have already cut the hours of some workers while eliminating the jobs of other workers to avoid falling foul of the law. Surely even you, CBJ7, are not that grossly ignorant.

[Yssup Rider]

Really? I thought it was already in effect, CJ7?

To listen to these criers and liars, you'd think the economy tanked the instant it was passed.

Haven't health care costs dropped by 4% each of the past year?

I guess nobody wants to talk about that.

All I know is that I don't want to hear a single fucking dipshit on the Idiot Team whining about their new, less expensive health insurance usurping their freedom.

Right now, there'll be 59 options in Texas under the new law. How many of you fucks have that many choices of insurance policies now?

Waiting...

[CJ7]

Originally Posted by I B Hankering

CBJ7 you cannot be so ignorant as to argue and deny that hundreds of IRS agents have not already been hired to help enforce this law, and that companies have already cut the hours of some workers while eliminating the jobs of other workers to avoid falling foul of the law. Surely even you, CBJ7, are not that grossly ignorant.

and WHEN it goes into effect

[I B Hankering]

Originally Posted by CJ7

and WHEN it goes into effect

You personify ignorance, CBJ7. Several provisions of the law are already in effect.