Is it OK to ask for a half hour?

[samantha thom]

Originally Posted by SweetCougar

For the ladies who don't offer hh sessions, this is the deduction that I came to early on when I began to do this.
Say I book only hours, and guys call who won't schedule for that so move to someone to do hh times.
Here is the logic that I finally came to.......EXAMPLE numbers only ....

I book 5 half hour sessions during the day, at $100 for hh, so I am actually only working 2.5 hours that day, making $500.00.
I book only hour sessions at 140.00, so i just book 3 one hour sessions during that day...,.I make $420.00 and worked half hour more....
It is more profit for the half hour in my view. Especially for the new client that you are not sure of the chemistry.

I'm glad this is working for some ladies. I guess I am different. I cannot do 3 - 5 appts per day. I'd die!!!
I consistently book 1 appt a day for 1 hour/1.5 hour/2 hrs and with my rate, that is good for me. I have room to say "no", be selective, keep my body fresh from wear and tear and my clientele tend to not want hh session anyway. And I have time to do other things that I like. I appreciate quality over quantity any day and all the guys who view the same.

[pmdelites]

it's threads like this that make me wonder about common sense and respect.
a client asks a reasonable question.
in my opinion, he gets some great answers and he gets some less than great answers.
pls, before replying to anyone's question/post,
PLS READ IT TO MAKE SURE YOU ARE ANSWERING WHAT THE PERSON ASKED, NOT WHAT YOU THINK THEY ASKED!!!

--since i started on my response just after laura replied, i can now see that there are five GREAT responses!
thank you samantha, sweet cougar and tatman for your thoughts!!

<rant off>

Originally Posted by N2u4fun

I'm not cheap but to be honest I just don't have an hour in me. I have tried and tried but I'm not a multiple shot guy. So that being said I think most would prefer a quick exit. Now I'm no Runkle (californication reference) at least most of the time but I just can't get to 30. I love the ladies and cannot wait to see you on date day but 30 minutes is a freaking long time when you just don't know the person except she is HOT and you want to see her naked. Anyway thought I would put it out there to see if I may not be the only one. I have a few no thanks because of this but most are very accommodating. I love this place...

to me, that sounds like a legitimate & respectful request and question.
and i can understand your point of view and empathize w/ your situation.
what the women you asked thought of your request is their choice.
what others [who you didnt ask] thought of your request is their choice.
neither set of choices means that everyone should agree with and follow those choices.

like Incognito, cheatercheater, and others replied, [and it sounds like you are doing this],
just ask nicely and respectfully and move on if they decline.

Originally Posted by Incognito44

Find the girls you like who also offer 30 mins. ... I never ask a girl if she doesn't list in her ads or profile that she does offer 30 mins sessions. ...

Originally Posted by cheatercheater

In answer to the question posed by the OP, it's ok to ask a provider if she offers what you want. Do it respectfully and they usually respond respectfully even if it is a no.

Some of the most respected ladies here offer 1/2 hr and some are UTR when it comes to less than an hour and will ask you not to review them for that 1/2 hour session.

And fuck whatever the rest of these horn dogs and others say about your intentions. Every stinking one of them would pay half price and be a cheap bastard if they could. Every lady would love double the donation if they could get it and not worry about cheapening the other ladies.

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Originally Posted by Goddess Emma Love

It is rude and tacky to ask for a 1/2 hour if she does not list a 1/2 hour show on her advertisement. Apparently the 1/2 hr ladies are not cutting it for you so you want to cheapen the more expensive ladies. Yes you are being cheap for asking. It is very obvious. If you are not then just get the hour and chit chat if you can't get a second bell. Most ladies don't have a problem with a guy cumming more than once.

Sad how you come to a forum full of men who have no respect for women so you can justify yourself.

Women who offer 1 hour shows are not scammers. Some guys will say anything to bring this business into the gutter.

goddess emma, for whatever reason you think it's rude and tacky for a client to ask a woman for an appt length not on her ads/showcases, etc. does NOT mean it is rude and tacky for anyone else to do this.
just cos it's not listed does NOT mean she will not offer an appt of that time length [see elizabeth whisper's reply].
how else is a client to know if she will or wont offer 1/2 hr [even after reading reviews & ads and/or back-channel discussions]??
should a client just assume that it's not and not even ask the question??

do you know enough about N2u4fun or the women he has visited to conclude that because he asked that question means that "1/2 hr ladies are not cutting it for you [him] so you [N2u4fun] want to cheapen the more expensive ladies"??

finally, if you think this is a "forum full of men who have no respect for women", then why are YOU here??

Originally Posted by Eva Damita

I personally don't care for them...Its like I might as well walk the streets and do car dates.

i dont follow this leap of logic.
pls educate me on how a woman who offers 1/2 hr appts is equivalent to one who walks the streets or does car dates.

Originally Posted by daty/o

There are many reasons why people request half hour sessions, and none of them strike me as tacky or rude. Most providers are not in this business to develop relationships (or have more o's), so why would a client want to spend any more time than necessary in a session. It isn't disrespectful, it's just common sense. We are the ones paying; we should decide what we need. Personally, I prefer an hour or 90 min session so I can enjoy my passion (see handle). But the truth is, like most providers, I'm self employed and have to work around fluctuating income. Life is just too fucking short; I would rather have a short session, than no session. And I have the utmost respect and admiration for the ladies I see that make even those sessions so memorable. All I can say is, If you don't want to do hhr's, don't, but don't belittle those of us that occasionally rely on them.

Well said!!!
there are a gazillion reasons why a client might ask for a BnG, 15 mins, 30 mins, 1 hr, 75 mins, 2 hrs, 4 hrs, all night, a week appt.
and there a gazillion reasons why a provider might offer BnG, 15 mins, 30 mins, 1 hr, 75 mins, 2 hrs, 4 hrs, all night, a week appts.
some might be reasonable reasons, some might be irrational, some might be ignorant, some might be well thought out.
regardless, everyone has their own reason(s).
how about we respect that while allowing others to offer experience and knowledge in a respectful manner.

Originally Posted by Laura Lynn

I would start by saying that for a first visit, an hour is preferred. I like to get to know you, help you relax some. I love lots of foreplay and kissing and it helps me to learn the things you like.

I offer hhr visits. Just seems those are better experiences with friends I already know.

Thanks you Laura and others.
tho one cannot say this is very representative of DFW providers, some readers may now know that Laura, missblue, Lana_kae, zoebee, Kayleehotchick, and ElisabethWhispers offer or would consider 1/2 hr appts.
and i would NOT say that any of these women are scammers, street walkers, want to be cheapened, or want clients to have no respect for them.

as long as the client is respectful in his queries, actions, and payment, CANT WE ALL JUST FUCKING GET ALONG?

[fawn]

Originally Posted by Goddess Emma Love

It is rude and tacky to ask for a 1/2hour if she does not list a 1/2 hour show on her advertisement. Apparently the 1/2 hr ladies are not cutting it for you so you want to cheapen the more expensive ladies Yes you are being cheap for asking. It is very obvious. If you are not then just get the hour and chit chat if you can't get a second bell. Most ladies don't have a problem with a guy cumming more than once.

Sad how you come to a forum full of men who have no respect for women so you can justify yourself.

Women who offer 1 hour shows are not scammers. Some guys will say anything to bring this business into the gutter.

There are a lot of ladies that offer HH rates, I can easily make my full hourly rate and yes I offered the HH rate to my guys that are on a time crunch or the guys that want to see me but can't afford my full rate! This is my choice and It didnt hurt my business or affect the type of clients I saw.. You just have to do what works best for you...
We should never be surprised by what we get asked, read or hear in this line of work! Just remember you always have the right to say no to anything you don't feel comfortable with!
And to answer the question that was asked, N2u4fun i think it is fine to ask a lady if she offers a HH session.

[BBW Katrina]

Originally Posted by zoebee

Hh sessions are fine with me, I assume a man knows what he is capable of, financially and physically, and it doesn't bother me either way.

++1

[fawn]

Damn cell phones

[Tara Evans]

I offer 30 minute sessions and like them. So many of my clients are on their lunch break or in a hurry. They come in and have fun and pay a cheaper amount as well. I also offer quickies for the guys that are in a big hurry as well.

[HobbyFan42]

Originally Posted by Tara Evans

I offer 30 minute sessions and like them. So many of my clients are on their lunch break or in a hurry. They come in and have fun and pay a cheaper amount as well. I also offer quickies for the guys that are in a big hurry as well.

How have I not seen you?!?!!

There are several ladies who have commented on this thread that will be hearing from me soon. Sometimes for hhr, sometimes for hr, but I've certainly learned a lot about some of the wonderful ladies on here.

[cage196]

some providers offer hour sessions but rush you out in 15 - 30 mins

[Tara Evans]

Originally Posted by HobbyFan42

How have I not seen you?!?!!

There are several ladies who have commented on this thread that will be hearing from me soon. Sometimes for hhr, sometimes for hr, but I've certainly learned a lot about some of the wonderful ladies on here.

Not sure. We need too change that.

[BigPurdy]

Originally Posted by Laura Lynn

I would start by saying that for a first visit, an hour is preferred. I like to get to know you, help you relax some. I love lots of foreplay and kissing and it helps me to learn the things you like.

I offer hhr visits. Just seems those are better experiences with friends I already know.

I'm just the opposite. I rarely do hour appointments on a first visit due to the fact that there have been numerous times I've walked into an incall that resembled a third world country or a provider that was nothing like she had been described in her reviews. In my pea brain mind, it's better to visit someone at a reduced rate for 30 minutes and if things do work out positively, the time can be extended that day or if that's not possible, during the next visit. If they turn out as described, I can bolt or stay for a shitty session without losing the farm. Besides, many of us actually work for a living and have very little time to devote to this sideline.

[lily blake]

Originally Posted by pyramider

Thinck about from the ladies' perspective. It takes as long to prepare for a 30 session as a multi hour. Most of the 30 minute fucktards end up staying one hour, and the lady cannot say anything because the fucktard will post a review that says she is a clockwatcher. Also, the fucktards will insist on a quick shower that is after his 30 minutes is up.

Book the hour and leave when done or when time is up.

Exactly, I'm about to up mine to 90mins minimum

[Eva Damita]

Originally Posted by pmdelites

it's threads like this that make me wonder about common sense and respect.
a client asks a reasonable question.
in my opinion, he gets some great answers and he gets some less than great answers.
pls, before replying to anyone's question/post,
PLS READ IT TO MAKE SURE YOU ARE ANSWERING WHAT THE PERSON ASKED, NOT WHAT YOU THINK THEY ASKED!!!

--since i started on my response just after laura replied, i can now see that there are five GREAT responses!
thank you samantha, sweet cougar and tatman for your thoughts!!

<rant off>



to me, that sounds like a legitimate & respectful request and question.
and i can understand your point of view and empathize w/ your situation.
what the women you asked thought of your request is their choice.
what others [who you didnt ask] thought of your request is their choice.
neither set of choices means that everyone should agree with and follow those choices.

like Incognito, cheatercheater, and others replied, [and it sounds like you are doing this],
just ask nicely and respectfully and move on if they decline.



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goddess emma, for whatever reason you think it's rude and tacky for a client to ask a woman for an appt length not on her ads/showcases, etc. does NOT mean it is rude and tacky for anyone else to do this.
just cos it's not listed does NOT mean she will not offer an appt of that time length [see elizabeth whisper's reply].
how else is a client to know if she will or wont offer 1/2 hr [even after reading reviews & ads and/or back-channel discussions]??
should a client just assume that it's not and not even ask the question??

do you know enough about N2u4fun or the women he has visited to conclude that because he asked that question means that "1/2 hr ladies are not cutting it for you [him] so you [N2u4fun] want to cheapen the more expensive ladies"??

finally, if you think this is a "forum full of men who have no respect for women", then why are YOU here??



i dont follow this leap of logic.
pls educate me on how a woman who offers 1/2 hr appts is equivalent to one who walks the streets or does car dates.



Well said!!!
there are a gazillion reasons why a client might ask for a BnG, 15 mins, 30 mins, 1 hr, 75 mins, 2 hrs, 4 hrs, all night, a week appt.
and there a gazillion reasons why a provider might offer BnG, 15 mins, 30 mins, 1 hr, 75 mins, 2 hrs, 4 hrs, all night, a week appts.
some might be reasonable reasons, some might be irrational, some might be ignorant, some might be well thought out.
regardless, everyone has their own reason(s).
how about we respect that while allowing others to offer experience and knowledge in a respectful manner.



Thanks you Laura and others.
tho one cannot say this is very representative of DFW providers, some readers may now know that Laura, missblue, Lana_kae, zoebee, Kayleehotchick, and ElisabethWhispers offer or would consider 1/2 hr appts.
and i would NOT say that any of these women are scammers, street walkers, want to be cheapened, or want clients to have no respect for them.

as long as the client is respectful in his queries, actions, and payment, CANT WE ALL JUST FUCKING GET ALONG?

Well, being that whether you're a SW strictly doing car dates, escort on BP, or provider here strictly on ECCIE and P411, we ARE all technically the same - we are all providers, right? Is that not a well-built commonality within it self - much less the exact same thing? Tomayto - tomahto .

The issue that would separate me from those who partake in car dates or SWing is TIME, and my target market (some ladies could use a lesson on this). And, most importantly, what I am comfortable with to run my business to ensure superior performances each, and every time. Unfortunately for some, 30 Minutes usually is not sufficient time for me to even get to sexually mind fuck a guy (i.e chemisty ) before things get more "physical".

Throwing in the word "logic" really has no place in my disdain for hh. The word "comfort" fits better being this is not math or subjects of concrete fact, it's pure theory for a ladies own business. What you seem to not understand is the comfort in my preference for hour + dates and discomfort of hh:

A) 30 min sessions don't cut it financial FOR ME and my business, so I prefer to remain "low volume"

B) FOR ME and my experience, 30 minute sessions are best left reserved for those who've invested in me, aka long-term play pals. It's a loyalty thing - for me , that is.

C) For me and my experience in the business, "NON-RUSH" dates are loved by hobbyists

D) My preferred Target Market

... I could go on, but you get the idea - a provider determines her preferences based on needs. If hh work for her, great! They are great for me as well when offered, but too many times that 30 minutes goes to 45 minutes ...

Please, do not attempt to make it seem I implied one is better than the other in general for each provider. Hell, I offer 30 minute sessions too, but rarely. Bottom line, just not my style.

[Incognito44]

Originally Posted by BigPurdy

I'm just the opposite. I rarely do hour appointments on a first visit due to the fact that there have been numerous times I've walked into an incall that resembled a third world country or a provider that was nothing like she had been described in her reviews. In my pea brain mind, it's better to visit someone at a reduced rate for 30 minutes and if things do work out positively, the time can be extended that day or if that's not possible, during the next visit. If they turn out as described, I can bolt or stay for a shitty session without losing the farm. Besides, many of us actually work for a living and have very little time to devote to this sideline.

I have done that with an hour appt, when I paid full and left in barely 15 minss.Thats when I decided, if first time, and in doubt about the girl, then I arrange for 30 mins first time at least. One time luckily girl didn't remember that I asked for hour and I changed it to 30 mins and got out of dodge in real hurry after paying for 30 mins.

But its upto the girls though. I have seen girls who are not comfortable with less than hour appt, and luckily all of them ended up being great.

Heck its a provider who first advised me on going with half an hour instead of hour since I am one shot guy normally.Normally I am hesitant to ask about 30 mins appt, for the reasons some in here commented about being cheap etc. Second, most of the time, I rarely have time to spend 30 mins, let alone an hour, but since I don't like the quickie types, I choose 30 mins, if it ends up being quickie.

[oldbutstillgoing]

My feeling is as long as they don't say they don't do something, an inquiry, not a demand should never be a problem.as long as it's respectful and tastefully done. Why the hell would a provider be upset if you ask a polite question? If they are you are asking the wrong provider. Just be sure if she says no you say thank you and drop the subject.

[!!!VIP_MOLLY!!!]

I believe it truly depends on the provider and if she offers it, I used to offer HHR non gfe but it just wasnt any fun! the GFE stuff is where its at!