Provider's Rates: Self worth vs Perceived Value

[Hot to Trot Daphne]

I have been seeing an acupuncturist for an old back injury that I had that's bothering more and more lately. While on a natural medicine site, I saw this article. I thought in a lot of ways, it mimicked some of the issues providers come across when figuring out a rate structure. This may also tie in to some of the other fiscal matters that we discuss here, such as specials, discounts, guys shorting, etc.

Ladies, do you feel like your self esteem or self worth is tethered to your rates? or do you charge according to what you feel your perceived value is? Is your rate a combined total of every activity that you offer.

Please, let us reason together.

[gearslut]

It's an interesting question. I have from time to time done contract work and consulting work in my field. I don't tie my self esteem or self worth into my fees, I just know I'm worth the rates that I charge. If you can get the same quality from someone else for less money that has my expertise and experience then go do it. The first time I did it I asked around what the going rate was from a few people and took it from there. I'd think it's pretty similar about pricing out companionship.

[TheAntichrist666]

I'm not a Provider. But I can say that I don't think a Providers rate has anything to do with their self esteem. I been with Providers who charged 200-250 an hour and all I could say was WOW!!! after the session, they were that good! I have also been with a supermodel looking New York Provider lady who charged me 1,000 for one hour...and her performance was disappointing to me. In the end...Providers will charge whatever they want to charge and they all have their own personal reasons why...and hobbyists will continue to see them at those rates regardless of how low or high they are.

[jeep07]

Some think mm boobs make them HDH

[MissKym]

I just see it more from a business perspective. I wouldn't consider it a matter of self esteem. I know I'm good, great in fact- not to brag but I also realize there is a lot of other competition out there, so like any business owner I keep my rates competitive and give my best service every time, but I don't promise something I can't or won't do. I don't like to itemize either- just keep it simple. If a provider wants to charge $500 an hour that's her perogative. I'm sure someone out there would pay that much to see me too, but I personally don't think it's fair to ask for that, and I wouldn't be successful if I did. I enjoy this for the most part. I have only once met someone that I was absolutely appalled by and thought "Oh my God, did I really just do that for money?" It wouldn't have mattered if I had charged $100 an hour or $500, at that point, my self-worth was compromised, and I will never, EVER put myself in that situation again for any amount of money. That's also why I screen and double screen. It might be annoying, but if I feel like I can't go through with it for whatever reason I just won't. It wouldn't be fair to me or the client. Some guys have told me that I am "cheap" and should be careful because I will get taken advantage of. Others think I'm too expensive and try to negotiate, and of course at that point I put them on my DNS list. This is another reason I have decided not to itemize( with the exception of one activity for an extra fee). I don't think any provider should be questioned why she charges what she charges or be negotiated with. If you don't like it, then move on.

[Liliana Vess]

Originally Posted by MissKym

Some guys have told me that I am "cheap" and should be careful because I will get taken advantage of. Others think I'm too expensive and try to negotiate, and of course at that point I put them on my DNS list. This is another reason I have decided not to itemize( with the exception of one activity for an extra fee). I don't think any provider should be questioned why she charges what she charges or be negotiated with. If you don't like it, then move on.

Your rate is very reasonable, but either way if it was $100, someone would try to negotiate it to $80. If it was $1000, someone would try to negotiate it to $800. Someone people are just cheap, some find fun in the 'game' of negotiating...

[silverstate53]

T A 666 is right on !!! As for me an hour of a ladies time if she is wanting more than 300 implies i am paying for her ego ...

[tbone2u]

I never negotiate with a lady. I do my homework and if she is the kind of lady I want to see and I can afford her rate........ Then I set the appointment. Very seldom am I disappointed.

I also never equate the ladies rate to her self-worth. Ladies have lots of reason they charge what they do and I have neither the time nor the inclination to try and figure out the "why" of their rate structure.

We have an overabundance of guys here that bitch and moan about what providers charge. Many use review enticements", "lists" or whatever they have at their disposal to get "deals". Some even resort to other not so nice ways to get deals. I detest that.

I personally believe in the law of supply and demand.

If there is a lady I want to see and I have the money.....I see her. End of story.

[Guest050715-1]

Originally Posted by tbone2u

I personally believe in the law of supply and demand.

This pretty much is the long and short of it. I decided what I wanted to make per APPOINTMENT and set my rates accordingly. It has nothing to do with my self-worth.

Originally Posted by tbone2u

We have an overabundance of guys here that bitch and moan about what providers charge. Many use review enticements", "lists" or whatever they have at their disposal to get "deals". Some even resort to other not so nice ways to get deals. I detest that.

Well said, and who doesn’t detest that. I absolutely hated it when someone would contact me and think some bullshit story, you cannot imagine the creative stories I’ve heard, would get me to drop my rate for THEM! Of course, you’re just perfect for me. I’ve never met you. You’re probably married. You may or may not have ANY characteristics I find redeeming, but ya, you baby………..you’re the one. While we’re at it, why not ask for an outcall to Beaumont or somehwere for an hour at my super reduced rate……………..Just For You. Maybe if I’m lucky, I’ll miss a two-hour appointment whilst I’m with you.

Bottom line, my rates were set to meet my cash flow needs. If I sold one or two Off the Clock appointments a week – Let’s just say 1 per week times 4.333 which I did on a regular basis – that was $4,333 and it met my household cash flow for the month including my mortgage. If I sold two Early Bird appointments (at $250 per hour) a week – which I did – that was $2,165 which more than covered my business costs ($1,300 all in for an incall, $550 in advertising, $280 phone with a little left over for “consumables” not including liquor and wine for my incall.) The rest at my hourly rate of $350 (about a third of my appointments were two hour appointments), grandfathered, overnights, touring, traveling with someone and patronage was pure gravy money. This is what my rates meant to me. They meant a nice life for my family and me not some cockamamie theory about my self worth or whatever bullshit thought up by some gentlemen in the demimonde to grift money from ladies. But that’s just me.

[tbone2u]

Damn....I'm under Olivia

[ackvt]

I think a lot of HDH's are trying to promote themselves as higher quality because they cost more. We typically associate higher quality with a higher cost, pay more get more. The "get more" is better looking, better performance, nicer location, combination. This doesn't always work out, unfortunately.

[Karyn Lovely]

I took a business perspective as well, similar to the article. I first decided the bare minimum that I would be happy making each month. Then I decided on the maximum amount of clients I would like to see weekly for 3 weeks (1 week off for my lady time).

I also took into account the average amounts of other lady providers in my area and the rates of those who were similar to me in services.

After some math and a few rate adjustments I came up with my rates. I am extremely satisfied with what I charge - if that ties in with self esteem? Even if I only see one client a week at my minimum price (call it my null price) it is still enough to satisfactorily supplement my income (as this is not my main job).

From the beginning I knew I wanted to be a low volume provider and if ever this becomes my main source of income, I will adjust my rates to keep my preferences.

I absolutely love what I do. It's honestly my exhilarating double life and I enjoy every single date I am with. I don't have to worry about seeing a certain amount of men weekly to support myself so I fully and happily partake in leisurely no-rush sessions.

[rhino9]

Lots of good thoughts here...some based on reality...some based on perception of reality.

Ladies, set your prices as you wish.! We will puchase as we wish.

Unlike some posters on here...a large majority of "members" will not even contact you if your prices are 200/hr or over.
So for those of you who don't wish to "NEGOTIATE"...you don't know what you are missing...and that is just stupid...you could always say..No thank you.

And, as long as you financially stable...that means nothing to you.

No business can survive with the idea that their product value is based on what they think it is.
Every business must compete and there is no shortage of providers in Houston.

Stay focused on reality.
If Houston had 20,000 providers show up here next week..
Would you be able to keep the same prices...??

If Houston had a massive layoff in major businesses....same question.

Most hobbiest enjoy the providers we see personally as well as physically.
Please don't become confused by connecting your prices to your self worth...
its not personal...its just business.
Many of you are so luvable...you are just hard to resist.

Then again...there are some that are only luvable at a certain price.

Think about it.
L8r
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[SexyCassandra]

If I based my rate on my self worth or esteem no one in the hobby could afford me.
I know me and my tats and most of the time braided hair is not everyones taste.
I don't speak greek so I think 200- 250 is fair. I do well at that rate and I can buy things a go places.
I happy.
I think its crazy men paying $500 or $700 for a provider that may or not exceed expectations. I have had some tell me that some high dollar providers rest to much on their looks.
If a flawless body is important to the client I understand. But most of the time performance is what counts.
My worth has nothing to do with my rate.

Most guys rather have a 10 performance from a lady that is 6 or 7 on a scale from 1-10
rather then a 6 performance from a 10. (Not all but most)

[BatteriesNotIncluded]

Originally Posted by Luxury Daphne

Ladies, do you feel like your self esteem or self worth is tethered to your rates? or do you charge according to what you feel your perceived value is? Is your rate a combined total of every activity that you offer.

Please, let us reason together.

Amazing how many men view themselves as ladies