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04-11-2013, 08:17 AM
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Lmao I figured it was autocorrect or something, I couldn't help myself
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04-11-2013, 08:20 AM
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IMO, you can tell who is cheap and/or trying to run game by screening. You don't need to ask what ethnicity they are to figure that out.
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04-11-2013, 11:20 AM
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Lol. its cool Matt I didn't notice until you pointed it out. thx..
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04-11-2013, 11:35 AM
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One of the biggest problem with a thread like this is. The providers that have a NBA policy, do not respond. So one can only speculate on the real underlying reason/s.
Screening, is suppose to be a big part in who a provider see. And base on that information, the choice to see or not see should be made.
If anyone has a blanket policy not to see someone, base solely on their skin color. THEY ARE RACIST. If you are, then so be it.
"Preference" really people. There is no where in the definition of preference, you'll find (excluded). There are usually exceptions.
As stated before. Nothing will change base on this thread. It remind me of changing seats on the Titanic.
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04-11-2013, 11:42 AM
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That's a really profound point. Not much to say after that.
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04-11-2013, 01:01 PM
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Oh its this thread again
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04-11-2013, 02:11 PM
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Oh its this thread again
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lovelamp, I have no problem with you personally, but how many threads are there on "why are girls rates so high", or "girls not looking like their picture", or "how to find a UTR/SB", or "who is your ATF", or "who do you wish was still around", or "where to get Viagra or ED pills"? Just because you personally may not have any interest in it does not mean that someone does not have the right to ask the question. You may think that the OP is beating a dead horse, but aren't most threads to a certain extent doing the same thing? If you have no interest with the topic, then don't read and don't post about it. If someone has frustration or issue about a certain thing, are you saying he should not express it or it should be confine to a national thread away from everything else?
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04-11-2013, 06:57 PM
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well, my two cents coming....I'm not black and I'm offended by such a blanket policy. Most ladies try and curtail the racial stereotyping issue by saying its a preference. Bullshit. We all have our preferences, but there are no, no Asians because their dicks are too small, no Danish because their dicks are too white. It's a no black rule, which rules out the preference argument. It's racial stereotyping, but not only that. Racial stereotyping kinda of makes sense as all categorizing does. That's how we make sense of a tremendous amount of sensory information all the time. We=-categorize. This person looks like this, does this all the time=this, add to that a social categorizing compenent and you have racial stereotyping. Not completely un-useful. However complicated that issue might be, this is not that. You can screen black men the same way you fucking screen anyone. same rules apply, and when screening is done well, it works. This is a black man =revulsion issue, which i some pretty hard to conquer issues of racism still existing in this country. And, I'm one of them. I grew up in the South. Had a great and eye-opening undergraduate education where I grew out of a lot of my small town ideas. However, sleeping with a black man was not one of them. and, it was only by doing this that I ever would have. that's how deep the fear and disgust lay. Now, I laugh at myself. The smell is no different, the taste is no different. They are men, like any other. An Nba policy is more about that just ingrown disgust. No one wants to talk about. Everyone want to say that they are beyond it. but we are talking about hundreds of years of propaganda against the black race for financial gain. Those things become ingrained in your head as the one thing you cannot do, especially if you are from the south. I'm sure a lot of voices will come out in dissent, but the argument of preference doesn't work, the argument of racial profiling only works if that's your only means of verifiying men. It's low-level feeling of disgust brought about by the war against African-Americans in this country.
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04-11-2013, 08:41 PM
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It's a Preference & security issue weather people like it or not weather they want to admit to it or not. I've had providers tell me they do NOT service obese men period, isn't that a preference policy?? As a half hispanic guy I don't scream & cry and get offended when I see White Only policy, I don't imediately think racist either I think PREFERENCE, why? cause I'm the same damn way. People can cry racism till their blue in the face but it just doesn't make it so maybe in some cases but not all so.... TRY AGAIN!!
What it is is a "Double Standard" . In both high school and college I had male AA classmates that only dated white chics wouldn't touch a black woman, Gee isn't that racist???
I had white female classmates that "Preferred" AA men, gee is that not racist?? But god forbid a woman NOT be attracted to Black Men oh no no no we can't have that, she's racist.
That is a Double Fucking Standard
As an NBA hobbyist I will say if you view me as a racist just because I (or anyone else both men and women for that matter) am not sexually attracted to AA women (or men in the case of women) then I say you're ignorant, and if you're gonna be ignorant then so be it!! I don't hate black people, I don't believe in being mean to providers who choose to see black clients at the same time I don't believe in being mean to a provider that chooses not to see ANY race, and I have seen other races singled out.
If a man "prefers" not to ever suck a dick in his life does that make him a homophobe & gay basher NO IT DOES NOT. I find it real funny how our society values "Freedom" as long as it goes with "their" ideology, but as soon as the "door of freedom" swings the other way and goes against popular view oh no no no we can't have that.
The more you chastise and label people because of their "Preferences" & policies the more your only gonna piss them off and make them really not want see you. People are just gonna have to accept that not everybody in this world is gonna walk, talk, act, and fuck the same.
Sex is sex wether it be hobby or civie, people have their Preferences and phobias and they are gonna overlap in both worlds. This is an unregulated (not to mention illegal) business and the providers have the right to service whomever the fuck they want to, and they shouldn't have to constantly catch shit cause of it Period End Of Story.
Forced diversity is no better that forced segregation, live and let live for once
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04-11-2013, 09:24 PM
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well, my two cents coming....I'm not black and I'm offended by such a blanket policy. Most ladies try and curtail the racial stereotyping issue by saying its a preference. Bullshit. We all have our preferences, but there are no, no Asians because their dicks are too small, no Danish because their dicks are too white. It's a no black rule, which rules out the preference argument. It's racial stereotyping, but not only that. Racial stereotyping kinda of makes sense as all categorizing does. That's how we make sense of a tremendous amount of sensory information all the time. We=-categorize. This person looks like this, does this all the time=this, add to that a social categorizing compenent and you have racial stereotyping. Not completely un-useful. However complicated that issue might be, this is not that. You can screen black men the same way you fucking screen anyone. same rules apply, and when screening is done well, it works. This is a black man =revulsion issue, which i some pretty hard to conquer issues of racism still existing in this country. And, I'm one of them. I grew up in the South. Had a great and eye-opening undergraduate education where I grew out of a lot of my small town ideas. However, sleeping with a black man was not one of them. and, it was only by doing this that I ever would have. that's how deep the fear and disgust lay. Now, I laugh at myself. The smell is no different, the taste is no different. They are men, like any other. An Nba policy is more about that just ingrown disgust. No one wants to talk about. Everyone want to say that they are beyond it. but we are talking about hundreds of years of propaganda against the black race for financial gain. Those things become ingrained in your head as the one thing you cannot do, especially if you are from the south. I'm sure a lot of voices will come out in dissent, but the argument of preference doesn't work, the argument of racial profiling only works if that's your only means of verifiying men. It's low-level feeling of disgust brought about by the war against African-Americans in this country.
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Ok then let's simplify. Some women including some black women are turned off by the idea of having sex with Black men period. There doesn't have to be a justifiable reason.
They do not have to apologize or be labeled as racists for there is nothing racists about who does or does not turn you off sexually for whatever reason.
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04-11-2013, 09:45 PM
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LM I have to agree , I am not a racist , but typically don't find AA providers to have the facial , hair , and eye color preferences that I am attracted to . Doesn't mean I don't think of them as equals , or that I believe them to not be intelligent , and ones who I do find attractive I have no problem seeing . All it means is they are not blonde , brunette , red , or latina ! Period . Those are what I find to be attractive , and I have no choice on what visually turns me on . So to say there is no validity to a preference is absurd .
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04-12-2013, 04:47 PM
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Interesting responses on this topic. The issue of race relations end ethnicity is complex. While I'm not sure of the motivation behind such policy, such a policy is certainly more prevalent in the hobby so one can easily conclude that racial preference is certainly not a mitigating factor. to such a policy. One person indicatd that its an issue of "security" which is laughable becuase crazy and rude comes in all shapes sizes and colors. While not everyone is racist because of such a policy, by logical conclusion some are.
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04-12-2013, 06:39 PM
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Interesting responses on this topic. The issue of race relations end ethnicity is complex. While I'm not sure of the motivation behind such policy, such a policy is certainly more prevalent in the hobby so one can easily conclude that racial preference is certainly not a mitigating factor. to such a policy. One person indicatd that its an issue of "security" which is laughable becuase crazy and rude comes in all shapes sizes and colors. While not everyone is racist because of such a policy, by logical conclusion some are.
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Starting with your last comment, and general argument - "logic"? Are you fucking serious? In what possible way does logic factor into sexual choices? Scratch the logic bullshit.
And until *you* have been spreading your legs for strange men, your perspectives on what is a "laughable" preference or practice by providers is... well, laughable.
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04-13-2013, 07:41 AM
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Starting with your last comment, and general argument - "logic"? Are you fucking serious? In what possible way does logic factor into sexual choices? Scratch the logic bullshit.
And until *you* have been spreading your legs for strange men, your perspectives on what is a "laughable" preference or practice by providers is... well, laughable.
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If a provider thinks that they are safe because they have an NBA policy, not only is it laughable it's ignorant. As I said, crazy comes in all colors.
As for logic. If some aren't racist....it's logical that some are isn't it?
Clarification, providers spread their legs for strange men that pay them $$$. Their preference and practice is to get paid to have sex with said stranger. When an NBA policy is applied, it's viewed as discriminatory that services are offered to all *stranger's* except *Black strangers* . By definition, when a certain group is not allowed it's discriminatory...Question; Because the service happens to be sex it's *ok* to label it as something else?
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04-13-2013, 09:31 AM
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Question; Because the service happens to be sex it's *ok* to label it as something else?
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Absolutely. Sex is still an intimate union between two (Or more) people whether it be with total strangers or familiar lovers.
To classify it as just another service no different than serving food or selling cars is unrealistic.
Completely surrendering one's body and possibly a little piece of soul to every client in doing so does stand in a category of it's own.
One is entitled to be picky or "Discriminating" regarding who they share this intimacy with.
I feel that any provider who will fuck anything or anyone breathing with two legs has lost all sense of self. I applaud those
willing to put personal principles before cash.
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