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Originally Posted by 12blue4u
I really don't care. What the hell is a "professional" anyway? Oh I know its a dude with a backdrop and some strobes?? I have been shooting non-professionally for over 40 years. I am also a hobbyist. If you can take some good photos take some good photos.
The Sex Pistols and the Ramones were not great musician's in fact its a stretch at that. But they got the point across and shook up the establishment which is what mattered. Screw the labels. Whatever works.
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professional is a person who is engaged in a certain activity, or occupation, for gain or compensation as means of livelihood; such as a permanent career, not as an amateur or pastime.
That is the difference - it's our job - our occupation and it has been mine for almost 25 years now. My vested interested is the quality of the images produced not trying to work out a trade for pussy. My vested interest is my income not trying to get another lay in the hobby. My images are part of my marketing and in turn generate more income - this is not a hobby but it is my profession and although shooting the women on this site is not my entire business it is part of my business so I treat them with the same professionalism as I do when I shoot a politician or an actor or anyone else. It is my job. The biggest complaint I get from the providers after they shoot with a client instead of a professional is that they are not treated professionally. The images are not the best quality, they had to wait an insane amount of time to get the images or once the client has gotten his part of the deal then sometimes they just disappear altogether and the provider never receives her images. I hear this A LOT and that is why I started this thread. It is not a matter of whether a hobbyist cannot provide quality images because I have seen some non-professionals advertise here that do outstanding work - but most hobbyists that also shoot have not taken the time to learn and there is much more to creating images than shooting in automode and getting laid afterwards.
Like I said many times, those trade deals work for some providers but when I travel from city to city and hear the same thing from different providers - the same complaints, the same issues, then it is something that should be noted. This thread was not started to gain more business for me but it was started as a suggestion because of the feedback I get from providers in general.
At this point we are going around and around because the powers that be here don't understand or care or whatever so it is what it is.