What is the best way for a newbie/couple to get references?

[Uli Kunkel]

My wife and I want to start hobbying together but as newbies obviously have no references. I have been to a few AMPs and written a couple of reviews here awhile back but gather that means nothing for screening. We would ideally like to do whatever is necessary to get a P411 account but do not want to give out our employment information for screening.

So, what is the best way to go about getting references so we can have access to all those providers that are couple friendly and eventually a P411 account? I was thinking we have a couple of encounters with women who are newbie friendly to serve as future references for those that are not. Understanding that only some providers see couples, my wife is okay with me initially seeing providers on my own as necessary to get references.

Is this the best strategy?

Are there any newbie friendly providers y'all recommend who other providers would accept as future references? (I often see ads that say references must be "acceptable," not from BP, etc.).

Thanks.

[Fancyinheels]

Not a bad strategy at all, really, but you might as well get what you BOTH want, if possible. There are many providers on here who like playing with couples. YummyMarie and Valerie (International) come to mind (based on recent reviews), but you would have to contact them or check their websites for their screening requirements.

You might go take a look at the "Screening" section of my website, Uli, under the "Education" tab. I have several options available. While I don't advertise it, I have enjoyed cavorting with couples on occasion. (There's also a recent review of me posted on that very type of play date.) I would be considered a very reputable reference, and since I'm also a P411 provider, I'll be able to give you a referral there, as well.

[Wicket]

Honestly, most newbie friendly providers are going to ask for employment info before they will see you. I think it is a much better idea to give up your employment info to P411, who offices are in Canada and out of the reach of US LE. P411 has a sterling reputation. While there are definitely some trustworthy ladies in Houston, some ladies are known to hang onto every piece of info on you forever.

[dearhunter]

I would trust Fancy more than P411........ijs

[Guest032117]

I LOVE couples, but I don't see newbies :-/

I know Rosemary has ordained a couple before.

Fancy is an amazing pick as well. She has an impeccable reputation and has the upmost respect in this community :-)

[Wicket]

Fancy is definitely at the top as far as trustworthy goes, but P411 is right up there with her.

[Liliana Vess]

Ditto on P411. It's safer for everyone involved, plus it's the only useful tool for searching for couples friendly providers.

Going solo to get P411 and then branching out is inviting a hot mess.

[Mojojo]

Just get p411.....its all you need!

[Guest050715-1]

If a gentleman has no, or a limited number of ok's, I require further screening.

Be careful who you give any employment type information to. Make sure she is a well respected member of the community (both Fancy and Yummy are).

I wish you the best of luck, and I think it's wonderful that you and your wife are playing together!

[SexyCassandra]

P411 is definitely the way to go!! Good luck on your journey

[jbravo_123]

Another vote for P411. Yes, giving out your employment information is scary, but you'll only have to do it once through them (as opposed to potentially multiple times with individual providers) and then you're done.

[Uli Kunkel]

Thanks for the tips everyone. I think we are going to go the P411 route.

[MiMa]

What name does P411 use to verify your employment? I wouldn't want a adult escort company calling my HR dept? But i am in the same boat. want a provider but need to have been with a provider....

[Rubchasertx]

Originally Posted by MiMa

What name does P411 use to verify your employment? I wouldn't want a adult escort company calling my HR dept? But i am in the same boat. want a provider but need to have been with a provider....

P411 will ask for the main line to your office (not your direct line) so that they can ask the receptionist for you. The pose as an innocuous entity like a well known bank or business. Unless the receptionist knows the drill, it is unlikely that anyone will take notice of the call.