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Old 02-19-2013, 10:20 PM   #1
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Default Drone Pilot Medal Outranks Bronze Star & The X-47B Carrier-Based Drone

New high-tech warfare medal draws backlash

The Pentagon sparked an uproar among troops and veterans when it revealed that a new high-level medal honoring drone pilots will rank above some traditional combat valor medals in the military’s “order of precedence.”

The Distinguished Warfare Medal will be awarded to pilots of unmanned aircraft, offensive cyberwar experts or others who are directly involved in combat operations, but who are not physically in theater and facing the physical risks that warfare historically entails.

New medal for drone pilots outranks Bronze Star

The new medal will rank just below the Distinguished Flying Cross. It will have precedence over — and be worn on a uniform ahead of — the Bronze Star with Valor device, awarded to troops for specific heroic acts performed under fire in combat.

“This award recognizes the reality of the kind of technological warfare we are engaged in the 21st century,” Defense Secretary Leon Panetta told reporters in Washington as he announced the new medal on Feb. 13.

The medal will be awarded for specific acts, like the successful targeting of a specific individual at a critical time. It is the first new force-wide medal recognizing combat achievement since the Bronze Star was created in 1944.

But the decision by Pentagon officials to insert it near the top of the official medals “order of precedence” triggered a swift backlash among those who fear it will diminish the honor of the Purple Hearts and Bronze Stars that rank below it.

“This new medal — no matter how well intended — could quickly deteriorate into a morale issue,” John Hamilton, national commander of the Veterans of Foreign Wars, said in a Feb. 14 statement. “Medals that can only be earned in direct combat must mean more than medals awarded in the rear.”

Hamilton urged the Pentagon to “reconsider the new medal’s placement in the military order of precedence.”

Panetta noted that other valor awards such as the Medal of Honor and Silver Star will continue to top the order of precedence; the new medal will specifically honor non-valorous combat impact.

“Our military reserves its highest decorations obviously for those who display gallantry and valor in actions when their lives are on the line, and we will continue to do so,” Panetta said.

“But we should also have the ability to honor the extraordinary actions that make a true difference in combat operations … particularly when they remove the enemy from the field of battle, even if those actions are physically removed from the fight,” Panetta said.

The service secretaries will make the final determination for awarding the Distinguished Warfare Medal. The design includes a brass pendant nearly 2 inches tall, with a laurel wreath that circles a globe and an eagle in the center. The ribbon has blue, red and white stripes.

Many citations for the new award are likely to be classified because of the sensitive nature of UAV strikes, Sterner noted.

The Pentagon announcement came as a surprise to Doug Sterner, a military medals expert and curator of the Military Times Hall of Valor, the largest database of military medal recipients.

“It’s got me puzzled,” Sterner said in an interview Wednesday. “I understand the need to recognize the guys at the console who are doing some pretty important things. But to see it ranking above the Bronze Star [with] V?”

Others suggested the medal is not really necessary.

“Why does it have to be a new medal?” said Nick McDowell, a member of the Orders and Medals Society of America.

High-tech troops could be recognized with current medals, or, if necessary, the Pentagon could add a new ribbon devices attached to an existing medal, McDowell said.

“The problem is that we’re adding another non-valor personal decoration into a system that is already crowded with non-valor personal decorations,” McDowell said. “The ultimate consequence is that it will diminish the prestige of the valor decorations. Nobody wants that, but that is basically what happens.”

A rigorous selection process likely will be used in awarding the new medal, said Fred Borch, president of the Order and Medals Society of America.

“If you’re going to put this new award ahead of, say, a Bronze Star with V, [it is] really indicating to the world that this award is going to be sparingly given,” Borch said.

“I can see that someone involved in a remotely piloted vehicle operation could successfully engage a target that was so important to the enemy that [its] destruction had huge significance tactically, operationally and strategically,” Borch said. “And you want to recognize and reward that.”

Pentagon officials sought to quell the criticism of the new medal, assuring the public that the Distinguished Warfare Medal will warrant its slot on the order of precedence.

The medal will be limited to “achievements that are truly extraordinary,” said a Pentagon spokesman, Navy Lt. Cmdr. Nate Christensen.

“Extraordinary achievement directly impacting combat operations at this level deserves to be recognized with a distinctive medal, not a device on an existing medal. The DWM is visionary in that it fills a need for a non-valorous combat impact medal,” Christensen said.

This is hardly the first time the Pentagon has faced controversy over the medals order of precedence. In 1985, complaints from veterans that the Purple Heart ranked too low prompted Congress to pass a law affixing the medal just below the Bronze Star, where it remains today.

Thinking Through the Brave New World of Carrier-Based Drones



Back in November the U.S. Navy craned an X-47B, officially labeled an “unmanned combat air system,” aboard the USS Harry S. Truman (CVN 75) for the drone’s first carrier-based testing.

And nothing says “brave new world” like the thought of drone’s taxiing around the flight deck alongside manned aircraft during regular cyclic ops. Keeping 25 airplanes from smashing into each other before launch is hard enough with pilots in the loop; what will the absence of them do to the Handler’s pucker factor?

Enter the Control Display Unit. The CDU is the device that allows operators on the flight deck to control the X-47. The CDU is a wireless handheld device that controls thrust, brakes, and nosewheel steering to maneuver the aircraft wherever it needs to go around the flight deck.

So if we consider how current generation manned aircraft make it from start up to the cat, we can get a sense of how an unmanned aircraft would do the same.

Once the X-47 is powered up and ready to taxi (let’s assume the squadron maintainers — the green shirts — perform that function) a taxi director — a yellow shirt — would wander over with CDU in hand. So instead of directing a pilot at the controls using hand signals, the yellow shirt simply takes control of the drone and taxis it wherever he desires.

Once the X-47 is spotted on the catapult and ready for launch control would go to … the Air Boss in the tower? … the mission drone pilots located in a ready room? … guys with joysticks in the back of an airborne E-2D?
So somebody controls the drone for the duration of the mission, or several operators control the drone for the duration of a mission. (You can imagine a “black op” where a regular Navy drone driver has to give control to a CIA drone driver for a bit, and once Bad Guy No. 1 is taken out, the regular Navy guy takes control back.)

But does that same mission control guy land the X-47 back on the carrier? Let’s assume he or she doesn’t. And then once the drone successfully traps (will drone drivers hate flying at night as much as human ones do?) then control goes back to the yellow shirt again. And once in the chocks, the green shirt shuts the unmanned bird down.
Whew. That’s a lot of coordination.

And when you say “wireless” controller the first thing that comes to mind is electromagnetic interference, trons so strong and numerous that they have been known to inflate aviators’ life preservers while they were manning up. What lessons will we learn the hard way when we crank up all the ship’s antennas and add a dozen more X-47s to the mix?
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Good Lord. They will get a medal for playing a video game. Only in Obama's Amerika.
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Old 02-20-2013, 12:13 AM   #5
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Good Lord. They will get a medal for playing a video game. Only in Obama's Amerika.
Maybe one day they'll give medals for trying to enlist.

Until then just keep doing what you've been doing. Doing nothing and affecting nothing while continuously bitching about people who do something you can't do, won't do, or you are afraid to do.
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You'd rather falsely attack me than address the issue, eh, Munchonmen? Typical liberal. Deceive and deflect. You got nothin', do you, Munchonmen? Nothin' at all.
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This epitomizes the Odumbo Era in that it is complete and utter BS that an individual sitting stateside in an air-conditioned MilVan can earn a "Combat" Award that out ranks the Bronze Star and the Purple Heart. One guy’s uniform is stained by coffee stains or the scrambled eggs he ate for breakfast in the company of his wife and kids and the other guy’s uniform is stained with blood and reeks of the sweat and grime of battle: complete and utter BS!
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This epitomizes the Odumbo Era in that it is complete and utter BS that an individual sitting stateside in an air-conditioned MilVan can earn a "Combat" Award that out ranks the Bronze Star and the Purple Heart. One guy’s uniform is stained by coffee stains or the scrambled eggs he ate for breakfast in the company of his wife and kids and the other guy’s uniform is stained with blood and reeks of the sweat and grime of battle: complete and utter BS!
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