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Old 01-10-2010, 08:43 AM   #1
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Time to start this. I have a lovely SB that each time we meet I enrich her financially (education?). Is this different from a provider (yes). So tell us your relationships and how you feel about it.
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Old 01-10-2010, 08:56 AM   #2
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I have had 2 similar relationships. Some of you remember me from Alice In Hawaii, and I retired several years ago to enter an exclusive arrangement. The first one lasted over 2 years, followed by another one for a year.

I would label them closer to Mistress than Sugardaddy, but either term works. Emotionally they were far different from being an escort because in each I stayed monogamous. In a nuts and bolts sense, they involved quite a bit more time spent emailing and talking on the phone. In both situations I was less an entertainer than I am as an escort. I loved these situations, but would only enter another with someone I was extremely compatible with.
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Old 01-10-2010, 09:08 AM   #3
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Time to start this. I have a lovely SB that each time we meet I enrich her financially (education?). Is this different from a provider (yes). So tell us your relationships and how you feel about it.
There were a few of us talking about this Thursday nite while watch the mighty Longhorns fall oh so short.

A buddy said he got into a discussion with his SB. One he met on the SD/SB site no less. She insisted she did not have sexual relations for money, yet they fuc'd every time they got together. He thought this might be newness but she insisted even after 6 months or so that this was not the case. So there is one difference right there!

For me, my lil SB is for travel. She does not want to do this professionally and I do not want to see her just for a quickie. We travel well together. Were I to do this with a Pro, I would be paying about the same, maybe even less but just in a lump sum. I like spreading out the payments. Maybe it's something in my DNA, who knows but it works for me/us.
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I do not now nor have I had a SB. I did look into it though.
In order not to come across as crass and offensive I'll try my best at answering without revelation.

I thought there would be a bevy of my likings looking for help whilst attending school, starting a business or just wanting to visit places they ordinarily wouldn't. What I discovered was that I was receiving emails and notices from the same group of people that I would say from Eharmony or xyzdatingDotcom.
Those I sent notices to did not return them.

Aside from the hobby world I have made my own deductions as to magic numbers that hold fast in the natural world order.
In conclusion, providers are a rare and special group that are vastly underrated.
I salute you.

I will ad that location, supply and regional social norms play a part.
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Old 01-10-2010, 09:20 AM   #5
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I had another buddy that said EHarmony was full of chicks that wanted a free meal yet would bash you if you mentioned a more intimate arrangement.
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I've chatted with some girls off the SD/SB site, and some of them seem to be shocked that this relationship might involve some "intimacy." Oh, well, I keep looking. There's something about this type relationship that appeals to me more than the typical provider/hobbyist arrangement, and I think it's just the fact that I would rather have "1 ATF."
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I forgot about that.
I did see 2 gals from Eharmony.
Both of them spent the first several minutes of our face to face meeting emphasizing that in no way is any guy going to bed them until after a committed relationship was established.
Eh?
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eHarmony hardly bills itself as the type of site that sugardaddies and others do. If I were looking for a SB arrangement eHarmony is the last place I would start with
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eHarmony hardly bills itself as the type of site that sugardaddies and others do. If I were looking for a SB arrangement eHarmony is the last place I would start with
Of course.
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I've had two SB's over the last couple of years, both were putting themselves through school. They were both very beautiful smart girls. I guess I was lucky in that both understood the arrangement totally. But I do think that's because there was a clear understanding of the ground rules going in. Lots of good travel and fun , as well as a couple soon to be degrees hanging on their walls.
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I've had two SB's over the last couple of years, both were putting themselves through school. They were both very beautiful smart girls. I guess I was lucky in that both understood the arrangement totally. But I do think that's because there was a clear understanding of the ground rules going in. Lots of good travel and fun , as well as a couple soon to be degrees hanging on their walls.
Clarity on the ground rules is the key. You may not discuss them or allude to them everytime you meet, but they are understood and respected.
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I have a SB now and as Alice said it's much more like a mistress than an escort. She is married, but separated, mid 20s and has her own job and pays her own bills. I have offered to "pay" her but she won't accept any money in that sense. Instead she wants me to take her places, do things together, buy her things and fuck her as often as as long as I can. We have gone to Stars and Mavericks games together, we went to the Margarita Ball and beforehand went shopping for a new formal, purse, shoes, lingerie, etc. I buy her presents from time to time and always bring her something back from my out of town trips, but the total amount I spend does not come anywhere close to what I would spend with an equivalent amount of time with a provider. To top it off she has a great body and an insatiable sexual appetite that is not being filled any other way. She insists that we fuck each time we get together.

But she does want to move toward something more serious and we have an understanding that if she does find someone to "date" in that way then our relationship as it is now will end. I'm hoping that doesn't happen but I know it will one day.

Since I'm not giving her any money (even though I try), that leaves me some extra to hobby once in a while and to pursue other SB arrangements where I do give them cash each time we get together. Those girls insist that they aren't escorts, but wouldn't be fucking me if I weren't giving them money. I have done the SB thing long enough that I know an amount that works and if any girls try to have a GPS with me I just tell them what I'm willing to offer and if they accept great....if not I move on. The important thing is to find something that works with the lady you are with, establish the ground rules clearly as the last couple of posters have stated and that's all that matters.
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Time to start this. I have a lovely SB that each time we meet I enrich her financially (education?). Is this different from a provider (yes). So tell us your relationships and how you feel about it.
Can you elaborate on this a little more? Are you educating her? Are you paying for her education? If you are giving her a donation ($$$) everytime you see her how is this different than an ATF?
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I actually got into this hobby through the whole SB/SD thing. It wasn't premeditated, but naturally developed into me seeing more than one SD and then I amended the logistics and arrangement format. I suppose even now I am straddling the line between SB and companion.

My experience as a SB has been great, but then again, I've genuinely liked my SDs. That was an important requirement for me. If there wasn't connection and chemistry, then no can do.
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Can you elaborate on this a little more? Are you educating her? Are you paying for her education? If you are giving her a donation ($$$) every time you see her how is this different than an ATF?
I was being vague on purpose not wanting to bias the comments.

My current SB is cash poor. Hubby died a few years ago and lives with one of her daughters. Wants to get out. First meeting went to a notel. Three hours of heaven for both of us. I gave and she expected $$$ (was discussed before we met). Next time we met I had a conference at a casino. She joined me for the overnight. I picked up all the tabs and gave her $$$ that she said she was going to use for Christmas gifts for her grand kids and kids. Met again just before Christmas. Just $$ this time, but we cut it short because she had A) shaved a little too close and B) put some lotion on it that "burned" a bit. We met this past Thursday. She shaved less, I shaved more. She brought the toys (see the other thread). Fun time had by all. Gift was $$$ which as I drove her home we stopped at a city/state office to pay a tax bill with the money.

She does have another SD who wants her to move up his way. She's not 100% on that, He has dropped some nice money for jewelry and so she can buy a car. Plus taken her on a nice trip. I cannot compete with his money but I don't think he can compete with my skills.

We do talk about this stuff.

Another SB I met in October, we hooked up a few times, but she kept tapping for cash. And then in November went cold. We text but haven't seen each other since then.

What is heartbreaking is some of these ladies are struggling to make ends meet i.e. rent utilities etc (I have not mentioned a few others that have been more brief, etc.). While our Diamonds seem to be for the most part financially secure, there are lovely ladies who are unable to keep a roof over their heads breaks my/your heart (one moved out of area and ended up in a homeless shelter for a spell).

Can I fund the world? No. Am I being scammed I don't think so. My biz plan still includes buying lottery tickets.
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