4% GDP

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2.7 trillion dollars after 28 fucking years....how much do you think is a fair number in todays dollars Mr. Lustyladyboy?



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[lustylad]

Originally Posted by WTF

Homework Homo. What is 2.7 Trillion in todays dollars?

A much better reason they lost the so called cold war ( which we seem to be back in, I mean really, did they lose it, our current President is now sucking Putin's dick) was because of low oil prices which the Saudis had a huge hand in because of their not liking the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan. But numbnuts seem to conflate high defense spending with winning a so called cold war.

Don't be so fucking dense, fagboy. Do YOUR homework. Look up the graphs showing "US NATIONAL DEBT AS A PERCENTAGE OF GDP" and try to comprehend them. Don't be lazy. We've had this convo before.

So now you want to rewrite the history books to say the fucking Saudis won the Cold War for us?



You're too funny!

What's NOT funny is how Odumbo's feckless inept diplomacy opened the door for the Russians to start encroaching again on their neighbors who were liberated by your favorite POTUS Ronnie - the one who famously dared Gorbachev to "tear down this wall!"

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How much money do you think you would have if you had 2.7 TRILLION dollars 28 years ago? How much now? Present value homo...tell us. You are the self-proclaimed expert



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[nevergaveitathought]

Originally Posted by WTF

How much money do you think you would have if you had 2.7 TRILLION dollars 28 years ago?


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you would have zero left

[lustylad]

Originally Posted by WTF

How much money do you think you would have if you had 2.7 TRILLION dollars 28 years ago? How much now? Present value homo...tell us. You are the self-proclaimed expert.

Oh yeah, the time value of money... another concept that I schooled your clueless ass on!

How much money did Clinton save when he reaped the benefits of the post-Cold War peace dividend thanks to Ronnie's victory and thereby enjoyed a budget surplus?

Or are you too stupid to understand Slick Willy's surpluses were the flip side of Ronnie's deficits?

Homework done yet? We're still waiting for your Debt/GDP graph!

[WTF]

Originally Posted by lustylad

Oh yeah, the time value of money... another concept that I schooled your clueless ass on!

How much money did Clinton save when he reaped the benefits of the post-Cold War peace dividend thanks to Ronnie's victory and thereby enjoyed a budget surplus?

Or are you too stupid to understand Slick Willy's surpluses were the flip side of Ronnie's deficits?

Homework done yet? We're still waiting for your Debt/GDP graph!

Wait....i thought Clintons military savings caused 9/11. Just like Reagan arming Osama Bin Laden help create 9/11.

I can play this game all day dick licker please. Just try to concentrate on what the present value of 2.7 trillion dollars would be 28 years later

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Originally Posted by nevergaveitathought

you would have zero left

LOL...you got that right!

[nevergaveitathought]

Originally Posted by lustylad

How much money did Clinton save when he reaped the benefits of the post-Cold War peace dividend thanks to Ronnie's victory and thereby enjoyed a budget surplus?

Or are you too stupid to understand Slick Willy's surpluses were the flip side of Ronnie's deficits?

that makes the size of obama's deficits much more than the raw numbers

for he spent with nothing to show for it and the burden of his debt accumulation will continue to cost us probably evermore

Reagan's had a return and benefit and came back to us with an increase

if you count the 2008 bailout to Bush's side of the ledger, the repayments were at a profit to the treasury...so we made money...and that profit should rightly increase Obama's share of the deficit....we made a profit on all but Obama's bailout of the u.a.w. related to general motors....we lost there to give money to his union supporters

far into the future Obama's waste will haunt us

[WTF]

Come on Present value of 2.7 TRILLION now...from 28 years ago.

Would it be safe to say that around that that 2.7 trillion would be worth around 10 Trillion in todays dollars even if you calculated a return less than 5%

And here is a question....wtf was the point of winning the cold war if 28 years later the Russian President is helping their favorite candidate elected here in the US?

[TheDaliLama]

Originally Posted by WTF

Come on Present value of 2.7 TRILLION now...from 28 years ago.

Would it be safe to say that around that that 2.7 trillion would be worth around 10 Trillion in todays dollars even if you calculated a return less than 5%

And here is a question....wtf was the point of winning the cold war if 28 years later the Russian President is helping their favorite candidate elected here in the US?

Actually the Russians believed that Hillary was going to win no matter what and they wanted to damage her for when she was President. They were just as shocked as anyone else when Trump won..Granite Trump no doubt benefited from it but had he been the presumptive shoe like Hillary was they would have but their kibosch on him. Their plan backfired on them. If you think it was done to defeat Hillary you are sadly mistaken..

But what else is new.

[nevergaveitathought]

Originally Posted by WTF

Come on Present value of 2.7 TRILLION now...from 28 years ago.

Would it be safe to say that around that that 2.7 trillion would be worth around 10 Trillion in todays dollars even if you calculated a return less than 5%

And here is a question....wtf was the point of winning the cold war if 28 years later the Russian President is helping their favorite candidate elected here in the US?

you sorely need an education

its not a present value formula numbskull

present value is the value in the present..the here and now.... of a sum of money, in contrast to some future value it will have when it has been invested at a given compound interest rate

in other words...what amount do you need today to invest at 5% to have x dollars at some point in the future

you are most likely fumbling for the amount of money needed today to have the same purchasing power today that an amount of money had in the past, an equivalent purchasing power. same purchasing power today as at some point in the past

like what amount would you need today to buy what x amount of dollars would buy in 1988

like the cpi index

2.7 trillion in 1988 had the same purchasing power as maybe around 7 or 8 trillion today

just think of prices of things you bought in 1988 and what they are today, hookers for example (male ones for you, but don't include the price you pay when you fall for one)

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It is not rewriting history , it is attributing the proper cause with the proper effect.

This guy nails it. Reagan got way to much credit and the proper cause was not properly attributed.



http://history.stackexchange.com/que...rop-oil-prices

This is almost more of an economics question.
The thing is, Oil prices at the time had a much more drastic effect on the US economy than the Soviet one, so you don't really have to look outside of US borders for reasons.
Rising Oil prices were almost single-handedly responsible for getting Regan elected. When oil prices go up, the price of everything in the USA rises due to the vast distances involved in shipping things around our continent. This caused a never-before-noticed effect in the USA economy which they had to invent a new word for: stagflation. Normally unemployment and inflation vary inversely to each other. Eg: if a recession happens, people lose jobs, but inflation drops too. During an economic boom, the opposite happens.
However, during the Carter administration there was a big Oil production slowdown, and the result was both inflation and unemployment got worse. The government didn't much know what to do about this, because their typical solution for one would make the other worse.
Regan got elected because of this, so quite sensibly it was a very high priority of his to stop the Oil slowdown. USSR or no, he'd really like to be re-elected.
I know there's a tendency now to grasp whatever straws available to paint Regan as the cunning genius who brought down the USSR. Having lived through it myself (and watched the guy's press conferences and speeches), I'll tell you it was much more like living through a live action Mr. Magoo cartoon. He may still deserve the credit, but the guy was just trying to drive his car...

[WTF]

Originally Posted by TheDaliLama

Actually the Russians believed that Hillary was going to win no matter what and they wanted to damage her for when she was President. They were just as shocked as anyone else when Trump won..Granite Trump no doubt benefited from it but had he been the presumptive shoe like Hillary was they would have but their kibosch on him. Their plan backfired on them. If you think it was done to defeat Hillary you are sadly mistaken..

But what else is new.

Actually that is not true....Trump was way more friendly to the Soviets than Hilleary was willing to be. They probably never thought Trump would win but he was Russian friendly....shit they'd made him rich buying his properties.

[WTF]

Originally Posted by nevergaveitathought

you sorely need an education

its not a present value formula numbskull

present value is the value in the present..the here and now.... of a sum of money, in contrast to some future value it will have when it has been invested at a given compound interest rate

in other words...what amount do you need today to invest at 5% to have x dollars at some point in the future

you are most likely fumbling for the purchasing power today of an amount of money in the past, an equivalent purchasing power. same purchasing power today as at some point in the past

like what amount would you need today to buy what x amount of dollars would buy in 1988

like the cpi index

2.7 trillion in 1988 had the same purchasing power as maybe around 7 or 8 trillion today

just think of prices of things you bought in 1988 and what they are today, hookers for example (male ones for you, but don't include the price you pay when you fall for one)

Yes Dickhead which is close to Obama's deficit. I've never not said Obama was a failure in this regard, just as GWB was and to some degree GHB....though he was smart enough to raise taxes. Timing is everything when President!

[nevergaveitathought]

Originally Posted by WTF

Timing is everything when President!

timing is everything for just about everything

from joke telling, to sex, to setting the fuse on a bomb