Mass Shooting in Orlando

[Luke_Wyatt]

A lot of ignorant comments - he purchased the gun legally. People make this a Muslim issue - the columbine shooters had enogh ammo to kill 50 or more people if they choosen. He also was born in this country so Trump's idiotic plea to ban all Muslims wouldn't have stopped this idiot from pulling off this massacre.

[DarkeyKong]

Originally Posted by Luke_Wyatt

A lot of ignorant comments - he purchased the gun legally. People make this a Muslim issue - the columbine shooters had enogh ammo to kill 50 or more people if they choosen. He also was born in this country so Trump's idiotic plea to ban all Muslims wouldn't have stopped this idiot from pulling off this massacre.

What percentage of terrorist attacks in America are planned and executed by Muslims?

[DarkeyKong]

Originally Posted by skirtchaser79411

It is fucking shit like this is why i carry a gun, and today when i go out i will have extra mags loaded with cor bon 9 mm amo that can stop shit like this i dont want to have to use but i will. and i have lost all faith with muslims they need to leave our country either bye choice or force and today i would rather it be the latter

[Aoi]

Originally Posted by Luke_Wyatt

A lot of ignorant comments - he purchased the gun legally. People make this a Muslim issue - the columbine shooters had enogh ammo to kill 50 or more people if they choosen. He also was born in this country so Trump's idiotic plea to ban all Muslims wouldn't have stopped this idiot from pulling off this massacre.

Oh, good. Another red herring argument. I love it when progressives have to try and shift the argument elsewhere. Hey guys, I know the Muslim guy just killed 50 people and left 50 wounded, but why don't we look at the evil white guys instead!

You want to know why banning Muslims is important? To prevent MORE of these savages from potentially coming in.

[Luke_Wyatt]

Originally Posted by MRMR

First off I feel for all involved.
It does not matter if you disagree with the lifestyle (If for religious or personal reasons) this is not acceptable.
But I agree that the debate now will be to ban assault weapons (all guns for that matter).
If you ban them the bad guys are still going to get them. We will be no safer.
Thoughts and prayers for all involved.

And yes if you plan to buy an AR in the next few months do it now before prices go up

Banning assualts weapons won't fix the problem he purchased the gun legally. Ninety nine percent of people who purchase assualt weapons don't shoot up clubs. Banning Muslims wouldn't have stopped this the gunmen was born in New York.
A semi truck can take out a lot of people with each much easier than a Ford Focus - should we ban semi trucks because of the potential amount of people they can kill in the wrong hands? To the poster saying he's going to carry his weapon with him what good will that do if the shooter starts spraying bullets are you going to duck rollover and draw out your gun, fire and be the hero? Please you been watching too many Steven Segal movies.

[wildcat]

Haven't seen any reports of Baptists, Methodists, Jehovah Witnesses shooting up people. But lots of Muslims and once again O'Bama refused to call the act Jihadists or Radical Muslims, but did point out that it was too easy to get a gun in the US. And I hope Aoi is correct, GO TRUMP.

Wildcat

[Chung Tran]

Originally Posted by Luke_Wyatt

To the poster saying he's going to carry his weapon with him what good will that do if the shooter starts spraying bullets are you going to duck rollover and draw out your gun, fire and be the hero?

if several people inside had guns on their person, surely one would have been behind or to the side of the bullet spray.. draw his weapon and relieve this Muslim of his sorry existence.

and save a lot of REAL Americans in the process..

[Luke_Wyatt]

Originally Posted by Aoi

Oh, good. Another red herring argument. I love it when progressives have to try and shift the argument elsewhere. Hey guys, I know the Muslim guy just killed 50 people and left 50 wounded, but why don't we look at the evil white guys instead!

You want to know why banning Muslims is important? To prevent MORE of these savages from potentially coming in.

I am far from progressive actually liberatarian. Please open your eyes before you comment - he was born in New York so how would this have affected the situation ? He was an American citizen not a refugee or someone who just came to the country so your point is moot. Or are you so ignorant that you think we should ban all Muslims?
Timothy Mcveigh killed hundreds did you call for any type of ban? Dylan Roof? The DC sniper?

[Luke_Wyatt]

Originally Posted by Chung Tran

if several people inside had guns on their person, surely one would have been behind or to the side of the bullet spray.. draw his weapon and relieve this Muslim of his sorry existence.

and save a lot of REAL Americans in the process..

Moot argument - remember this happened at nightclub. Name one nightclub you know that allows patrons to bring weapons inside their establishment? Can you imagine the carnage or casualties that would happen on a weekly basis if people were allowed to bring weapons to a club? Would you go to a nightclub if they told you that guns were permissible and that many people inside had guns on their person? Please come back to reality.

[BluesMan]

Luke, I would love to know where the news report is that says he purchased the AR legally, because I've looked and can't find where anyone has released that information.

Also, how in the world did he enter a nightclub with an AR-15, a handgun, and an explosive device? Was he wearing a coat? If he was, why wouldn't anyone have noticed since it's got to be fairly warm in Orlando today.

Lastly, CNN reported earlier that the FBI had interviewed the scumbag 3 times over the last few years with suspicions of terrorist involvement but let him go anyway. Go figure.

[Chung Tran]

Originally Posted by Luke_Wyatt

Moot argument - remember this happened at nightclub. Name one nightclub you know that allows patrons to bring weapons inside their establishment? Can you imagine the carnage or casualties that would happen on a weekly basis if people were allowed to bring weapons to a club? Would you go to a nightclub if they told you that guns were permissible and that many people inside had guns on their person? Please come back to reality.

in my world of reality, several guys should have rushed that gunman and apprehended him within 45 seconds.. why nobody did I don't know.

[Chung Tran]

Originally Posted by BluesMan

Luke, I would love to know where the news report is that says he purchased the AR legally, because I've looked and can't find where anyone has released that information.

Also, how in the world did he enter a nightclub with an AR-15, a handgun, and an explosive device? Was he wearing a coat? If he was, why wouldn't anyone have noticed since it's got to be fairly warm in Orlando today.

Lastly, CNN reported earlier that the FBI had interviewed the scumbag 3 times over the last few years with suspicions of terrorist involvement but let him go anyway. Go figure.

purchased legally, the thinking is he shot a security guard outside, then walked in with the assault rifle.

[Aoi]

Originally Posted by Luke_Wyatt

I am far from progressive actually liberatarian. Please open your eyes before you comment - he was born in New York so how would this have affected the situation ? He was an American citizen not a refugee or someone who just came to the country so your point is moot. Or are you so ignorant that you think we should ban all Muslims?
Timothy Mcveigh killed hundreds did you call for any type of ban? Dylan Roof? The DC sniper?

lmao. "Libertarians." So, basically, you don't even have a stance. Libertarians are almost as bad as vegans. They have to constantly remind everyone why they're more hip for being a Libertarian.

He was born in NYC and he was under investigation from the FBI. He was also subject to surveillance for a while. Maybe the government, instead of worrying about transgenders would do better in monitoring people like this Muslim piece of shit.

My point of banning Muslims and this guy are actually mutually exclusive. Banning Muslims prevents more from coming in. Agencies doing their fucking job instead of worrying about politics, would have done something.

Again, you are trying to shift the argument away from this guy and moving it to Roof, DC Sniper, McVeigh and so on. You want to know the difference between people like that and this Muslim guy? The Muslim guy is a part of an organization that is ACTIVELY trying to kill Americans. They literally go around chopping off heads of people they disagree with, gays, Jews, Christians, even other Muslims. They are a part of an evil fucking religion that has done nothing but kill people for the past 1500 years+. They are called to do shit just like this by their religion. It's literally written in their Hadiths. And if the American shooters are bad enough, why the fuck would we want to bring in people who want nothing short of the destruction of Western civilization? Why are libertarians such massive pussies?

That is why you are a progressive.

[Aoi]

Originally Posted by Luke_Wyatt

Moot argument - remember this happened at nightclub. Name one nightclub you know that allows patrons to bring weapons inside their establishment? Can you imagine the carnage or casualties that would happen on a weekly basis if people were allowed to bring weapons to a club? Would you go to a nightclub if they told you that guns were permissible and that many people inside had guns on their person? Please come back to reality.

Armed guards.

End of story.

[Luke_Wyatt]

Originally Posted by DarkeyKong

What percentage of terrorist attacks in America are planned and executed by Muslims?

Doesn't make a difference? Also, tell me what you define a terrorist attack? Dylan Roof's attack was called a "hate crime" which I see the same as a terrorist attack. But to answer your questions- most have been carried out by non muslims:http://www.globalresearch.ca/non-mus...merica/5333619

Here'a also another article showing that most terrorist attacks in the U.S are non muslims:http://www.huffingtonpost.com/omar-a...b_8718000.html

I think I know where you were going and if I am not mistaken you are AA correct? Well what about people who label Blacks as dangerous because they make up 15-20% of the population, but account for a large percentage of crimes and a large incarceration percentage?
Let's go a step further how many AA's hobby? What's the percentage of AA's who have alerts on them- the answer to both question is very little, but why are there so many NBA providers if the total percentage of AA's who hobby and the total number of alerts of AA's are below 10 percent?