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Old 08-11-2017, 03:37 PM   #16
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And if you check, the JUDGE was an obama apointee, and since Holder 'recognized him for good work on tobacco fraud several years back, AND THIS FRAUD was for the DNC, its not surprising to ME at least, that he got such a light slap on the wrist.. HERE is imo proof of collusion...
Collusion with who?

WTF are you talking about?

All you've shown is your ignorance on voter fraud.

You parrot something that you do not even understand. (The DNC was fucked out of money by this guy)

You're like a Conn Man that isn't even smart enough to know that he is lying.

You're selling Time shares and believe they are a good deal!

Jesus man...study this subject a bit more before posting again about it.

Go down to the peep hole at the girls junior high locker and jack off with bambino.
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Old 08-11-2017, 03:39 PM   #17
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OK.. Here it is.

There is no indication that Spieles’ actions resulted in any fraudulent votes being cast.



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Do you stupid fuckers ever read what you post?

No voter fraud in this one fucking case you allude to.

The people that committed the fraud, did it to collect money from the DNC because they were to lazy to get out and sign up people eligible to vote.

There was no conspiracy to get dead people to vote. He did it to fuck the DNC out of money.

Once again:

There is no indication that Spieles’ actions resulted in any fraudulent votes being cast.



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Old 08-11-2017, 03:48 PM   #18
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Did you even read your own link you ignorant fuck?

Of course you didn't or even your dumbass wouldn't have posted it.

Or maybe you actually read it and can not
understand wtf you read....
Yes, I did.

"Overall, state records show 10.6 percent of the precincts in the 22 counties that began the retabulation process couldn’t be recounted because of state law that bars recounts for unbalanced precincts or ones with broken seals.The problems were the worst in Detroit, where discrepancies meant officials couldn’t recount votes in 392 precincts, or nearly 60 percent. And two-thirds of those precincts had too many votes.
There’s always going to be small problems to some degree, but we didn’t expect the degree of problem we saw in Detroit. This isn’t normal,” said Krista Haroutunian, chairwoman of the Wayne County Board of Canvassers.
State officials are planning to examine about 20 Detroit precincts where ballot boxes opened during the recount had fewer ballots than poll workers had recorded on Election Day.

"Republican state senators last week called for an investigation in Wayne County, including one precinct where a Detroit ballot box contained only 50 of the 306 ballots listed in a poll book, according to an observer for Trump."

"Apparently the discrepancies were found as result of Jill Stein's recount efforts which began but were subsequently shut down by a federal court. Per Michigan state law, recounts are not allowed to proceed in "unbalanced" precincts where the number of ballots don't tie out to the number of voters. In the city of Detroit alone, 60% of the precincts were found to be "unbalanced" with two-thirds of those having "too many votes." http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-1...ballots-voters
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Yes, I did.

"Overall, state records show 10.6 percent of the precincts in the 22 counties that began the retabulation process couldn’t be recounted because of state law that bars recounts for unbalanced precincts or ones with broken seals.The problems were the worst in Detroit, where discrepancies meant officials couldn’t recount votes in 392 precincts, or nearly 60 percent. And two-thirds of those precincts had too many votes.
There’s always going to be small problems to some degree, but we didn’t expect the degree of problem we saw in Detroit. This isn’t normal,” said Krista Haroutunian, chairwoman of the Wayne County Board of Canvassers.
State officials are planning to examine about 20 Detroit precincts where ballot boxes opened during the recount had fewer ballots than poll workers had recorded on Election Day.

"Republican state senators last week called for an investigation in Wayne County, including one precinct where a Detroit ballot box contained only 50 of the 306 ballots listed in a poll book, according to an observer for Trump."

"Apparently the discrepancies were found as result of Jill Stein's recount efforts which began but were subsequently shut down by a federal court. Per Michigan state law, recounts are not allowed to proceed in "unbalanced" precincts where the number of ballots don't tie out to the number of voters. In the city of Detroit alone, 60% of the precincts were found to be "unbalanced" with two-thirds of those having "too many votes." http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-1...ballots-voters
That is like saying you saw a God damn UFO and leaving out that the Air Force was flying Stealth fighters in the area at that time. Yes, it is true you saw a UFO. It is true too, that you are an idiot if you think Martins were flying what you saw....especially after a reasonable explanation was given. A reasonable explanation has been given. Out of all the ballots cast this is normal to not be in perfect sync.


You left this out....Washtenaw County Elections Director Ed Golembiewski said discrepancies tend to “even themselves out” — there are usually about as many precincts whose machines report more votes than fewer votes. But he said the large number of precincts with over-votes in Detroit isn’t necessarily significant.
“It’s usually human error,” Golembiewski said. “I have not seen anyone intentionally try to run an extra ballot. You aren’t going to rig an election three ballots at a time. You’re going to need a far more systematic and thorough approach than a couple of people here and there stuffing three extra ballots.”......which accounts for all the previouse distortions you posted.


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That is like saying you saw a God damn UFO and leaving out that the Air Force was flying Stealth fighters in the area at that time. Yes, it is true you saw a UFO. It is true too, that you are an idiot if you think Martins were flying what you saw....especially after a reasonable explanation was given. A reasonable explanation has been given. Out of all the ballots cast this is normal to not be in perfect sync.


You left this out....Washtenaw County Elections Director Ed Golembiewski said discrepancies tend to “even themselves out” — there are usually about as many precincts whose machines report more votes than fewer votes. But he said the large number of precincts with over-votes in Detroit isn’t necessarily significant.
“It’s usually human error,” Golembiewski said. “I have not seen anyone intentionally try to run an extra ballot. You aren’t going to rig an election three ballots at a time. You’re going to need a far more systematic and thorough approach than a couple of people here and there stuffing three extra ballots.”......which accounts for all the previouse distortions you posted.


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So your saying that it is "normal" when the discrepancy is so bad that state law kicks in and blocks those votes from being re counted, spurring a investigation? Good thing Stein wanted a recount or this might have been missed.

Per Michigan state law, recounts are not allowed to proceed in "unbalanced" precincts where the number of ballots don't tie out to the number of voters. In the city of Detroit alone, 60% of the precincts were found to be "unbalanced" with two-thirds of those having "too many votes."


There’s always going to be small problems to some degree, but we didn’t expect the degree of problem we saw in Detroit. This isn’t normal,” said Krista Haroutunian, chairwoman of the Wayne County Board of Canvassers.

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To put it bluntly, it is physically impossible for there to be more ballots run through the OCR scanner than voters who signed the poll book. It cannot happen unless someone is stuffing the ballot box. Seals cannot be “accidentally” broken on the ballot containers." http://www.redstate.com/streiff/2016...higan-recount/



"In the county’s largest city, Detroit, ballot irregularities have prevented full recounts in three consecutive mayoral elections. City Clerk Janice Winfrey faces a tough re-election campaign in the Aug. 8 nonpartisan primary next week because of a host of snafus from broken machines and missing ballots to last November’s national embarrassment, when more than half of Detroit’s 662 precincts were ineligible to be recounted because the number of ballots in voting machines didn’t match those in poll books." http://www.bridgemi.com/detroit-jour...-run-democracy
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Strange how THAT woman did it just 5 times and gets 8 years, while this guy did it 18 times and doesn't even get half a year..
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Strange how THAT woman did it just 5 times and gets 8 years, while this guy did it 18 times and doesn't even get half a year..
She did actually vote illegally, whereas, all that they could prove with the other guy was that he registered bogus voters.

This Massachusetts DMV case should proving interesting. It seems these DMV workers were creating false identities for illegals using Puerto Rican birth certificates and registering these illegals to vote. It looks suspiciously like someone else -- not the illegals -- would then actually do the voting using the names of these "false citizens": highly organized voter fraud.
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Millions and millions.
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Millions and millions.
It only takes "thousands", you Mussulman-luvin, Hitler worshipping, lying, hypocritical, racist, cum-gobbling golem fucktard, HDDB, DEM, when they're like Melowese Richardson: the poll worker who voted six times for Odumbo in 2012.
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She did actually vote illegally, whereas, all that they could prove with the other guy was that he registered bogus voters.


True. BUT still, 18 counts of fraudulent registrations (that were found, and that's without a full investigation), and only 100 days?? That makes barely 8 days per count...

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This Massachusetts DMV case should proving interesting. It seems these DMV workers were creating false identities for illegals using Puerto Rican birth certificates and registering these illegals to vote. It looks suspiciously like someone else -- not the illegals -- would then actually do the voting using the names of these "false citizens": highly organized voter fraud.
And what makes me laugh is every news story on it, ALL I have seen is that the 4 dmv workers were arreste. NOT ONE article mentions dick about whether those who were BUYING THE fake ids, or giving up their certificates etc to be used for this fraud were also arrested..
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True. BUT still, 18 counts of fraudulent registrations (that were found, and that's without a full investigation), and only 100 days?? That makes barely 8 days per count...
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Are you capable of understanding wtf he was actually doing?

He was not registering fraudulent voters to vote. He was screwing the DNC out of money because they paid him to register legal voters to be able to actually vote.

It could have easily been a theft of services case
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Are you capable of understanding wtf he was actually doing?

He was not registering fraudulent voters to vote. He was screwing the DNC out of money because they paid him to register legal voters to be able to actually vote.

It could have easily been a theft of services case
Except that:

“Spieles later admitted that he prepared the false voter registration forms by obtaining the name, age, and address of individuals from “walk sheets” provided to him by the Virginia Democratic Party..."

http://wtvr.com/2017/06/26/andrew-spieles-guilty-plea/

The information (including information on deceased voters) for the fraudulent ballots was provided by the party.

Why would the party provide him with info on dead voters?

Spoiler alert: The party wanted Spieles to fill out false registrations for people who may have voted Democrat, had they been alive.

He was not "screwing the party" because he did not get paid per registration. He could have screwed the party by getting convicted of a crime democrats say doesn't exist but the main stream media doesn't report it. Too busy looking for the single piece of evidence in the Russia "investigation" to mention voter fraud, more emails found from Hillary's server, indicating obstruction of justice (evidence hidden after a subpeona), Bernie's connection to Russia, the Clinton dynasty connections to Russia and Ukraine, pay for play, Obama's failures with North Korea and Iran and how they have led us closer to a nuclear conflict than the Cuban Missile Crisis...should I go on?
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And in many cases, i keep seeing report after report of people who've NEVER voted democrat while they were alive, all of a sudden changing their 'party affiliation' once they died..
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Except that:

“Spieles later admitted that he prepared the false voter registration forms by obtaining the name, age, and address of individuals from “walk sheets” provided to him by the Virginia Democratic Party..."

http://wtvr.com/2017/06/26/andrew-spieles-guilty-plea/

The information (including information on deceased voters) for the fraudulent ballots was provided by the party.

Why would the party provide him with info on dead voters?

You understand that people die. For instance my Aunt just died. If say she was not registered to vote and the DNC was trying to register her....they hire this guy to knock on her door and try and sign her up.

This guy didn't put in the leg work to find out they were dead.

You are making a fool of yourself.

You are being exploited because you do not understand what really happened.

You are parroting talking points that only people ignorant of the facts would believe.

The guy made up DOB and SS#'s...This from your own link:


“Spieles later admitted that he prepared the false voter registration forms by obtaining the name, age, and address of individuals from “walk sheets” provided to him by the Virginia Democratic Party, fabricating a birth date based on the ages listed in the walk sheet, and fabricating the social security numbers. Spieles admitted that he created all 18 fraudulent forms himself and that no one else participated in the crime.”
The Federal Bureau of Investigation and Harrisonburg Police Department investigated the crime.
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