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Old 03-05-2019, 11:11 AM   #16
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I'm not sure you get to whiff on the difference between "metal" (a substance) and "meddle" (to interfere in an issue that isn't your concern) and have anyone take the subsequent line about being "simple"; too seriously. YMMV.

That said, Russia interfering in the election is to be expected. Having the assistance of one of the campaigns is not.

You just invented a line of of thin air. "Just the opposite" is indeed untrue. Paying off one's bitches to avoid political disclosure is an in-kind campaign violation. You may believe otherwise, but the justice department already charged Cohen as such and have left Trump an unindicted co-conspirator to date because the DOJ has a policy about not indicting a guy who can simply pardon himself. The law is remarkably clear on this point.



Make no mistake, Trump will get a chance to testify to his thinking on this point, because he will either be impeached over it or indicted the day he leaves office, particularly if it is in 2020.
And YOU still believe Trump inherited $250 million from his father in 1974 although his father died in 1999!!!! You really know your stuff!!!
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Old 03-05-2019, 02:18 PM   #17
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Paying off one's bitches to avoid political disclosure is an in-kind campaign violation. You may believe otherwise, but the justice department already charged Cohen as such and have left Trump an unindicted co-conspirator to date because the DOJ has a policy about not indicting a guy who can simply pardon himself. The law is remarkably clear on this point.

Make no mistake, Trump will get a chance to testify to his thinking on this point, because he will either be impeached over it or indicted the day he leaves office, particularly if it is in 2020.
Hahaha.... you are delusional. Look, if you want to make political hay out of trumpy banging a porn star, be my guest. But spare me this crapola about how it is a campaign law violation to pay to keep a secret, secret. As I said, Cohen provided evidence it was done to protect Trump's marriage. Even if it was partly to avoid "political disclosure" and therefore might be considered an "in-kind campaign" contribution (if one stretches and tortures the definition) - what's the violation? There is no limit on how much a candidate can contribute to his own campaign. Did someone forgot to list the payment on a form somewhere? Well, fuck me sideways! I forgot to tie one of my shoes this morning! Are you going to indict me for that?

What irritates me most about desperate trump-hating ideologues like yourself is the way you keep driving our politics deeper and deeper into the sewer. You deter good, talented people from entering public service. Everyone has something in their past they don't want the world to know. People like you would make it illegal for anyone to try to keep their skeletons buried. You want to empower all those "opposition research" miscreants who run around looking for dirt on the other side.

Come to think of it, did Hillary Clinton list all of the money she spent for the Steele dossier on the proper campaign finance reporting forms? Were those payments concealed as "legal services"? Is Mueller investigating that? Why not?

How much campaign money did Hillary pay NBC and ABC to release the Access Hollywood video 3 weeks before Election Day? Was that properly reported on her campaign finance forms? Inquiring minds want to know! Is anyone investigating?

Btw, Harvard Law Professor Alan Dershowitz agrees with me. We need to stop criminalizing political differences.
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Old 03-05-2019, 02:33 PM   #18
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Hahaha.... you are delusional. Look, if you want to make political hay out of trumpy banging a porn star, be my guest. But spare me this crapola about how it is a campaign law violation to pay to keep a secret, secret. As I said, Cohen provided evidence it was done to protect Trump's marriage. Even if it was partly to avoid "political disclosure" and therefore might be considered an "in-kind campaign" contribution (if one stretches and tortures the definition) - what's the violation? There is no limit on how much a candidate can contribute to his own campaign. Did someone forgot to list the payment on a form somewhere? Well, fuck me sideways! I forgot to tie one of my shoes this morning! Are you going to indict me for that?

What irritates me most about desperate trump-hating ideologues like yourself is the way you keep driving our politics deeper and deeper into the sewer. You deter good, talented people from entering public service. Everyone has something in their past they don't want the world to know. People like you would make it illegal for anyone to try to keep their skeletons buried. You want to empower all those "opposition research" miscreants who run around looking for dirt on the other side.

Come to think of it, did Hillary Clinton list all of the money she spent for the Steele dossier on the proper campaign finance reporting forms? Were those payments concealed as "legal services"? Is Mueller investigating that? Why not?

How much campaign money did Hillary pay NBC and ABC to release the Access Hollywood video 3 weeks before Election Day? Was that properly reported on her campaign finance forms? Inquiring minds want to know! Is anyone investigating?

Btw, Harvard Law Professor Alan Dershowitz agrees with me. We need to stop criminalizing political differences.
Trump paid Cohen with a personal check. Cohen even has Trump on tape ordering him to pay by check. Our boy T, the legal expert that he is, should know about the legality of NDA’s. And the Cracker Jack Florida real estate mogul that he is, shouldn’t need to ask the experts on Indy’s for a good notary in Florida. Jesus tap dancing Christ!
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Old 03-05-2019, 07:48 PM   #19
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Now that the whole mueller debacle has failed they are going to search the seven seas for information on trump to try and dismantle him. In the meantime the russians have already won. The lefties on of the dems are more communist than the great Vladimar himself. Let the dems go and make fools of themselves and split their party in two factions. The crazies, and the craziest.
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Now that the whole mueller debacle has failed they are going to search the seven seas for information on trump to try and dismantle him. In the meantime the russians have already won. The lefties on of the dems are more communist than the great Vladimar himself. Let the dems go and make fools of themselves and split their party in two factions. The crazies, and the craziest.
When you’re right, you’re right. You nailed it.
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Now that the whole mueller debacle has failed they are going to search the seven seas for information on trump to try and dismantle him. In the meantime the russians have already won. The lefties on of the dems are more communist than the great Vladimar himself. Let the dems go and make fools of themselves and split their party in two factions. The crazies, and the craziest.
Jesus Christ, you people are delusional. Not saying the Mueller investigation has anything on Trump, but it has yielded 34 indictments and seven guilty pleas...and they still haven’t released the findings. Any one who says “the whole mueller debacle” has failed, at this date is pushing a fact-free agenda.
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Jesus Christ, you people are delusional. Not saying the Mueller investigation has anything on Trump, but it has yielded 34 indictments and seven guilty pleas...and they still haven’t released the findings. Any one who says “the whole mueller debacle” has failed, at this date is pushing a fact-free agenda.
The Russian indictments were pure PR. They’ll never be prosecuted. One Russian did show up and Mueller didn’t present a case. The other indictments have nothing to do with Trump. That’s a fact. What were you saying about delusion?
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Jesus Christ, you people are delusional. Not saying the Mueller investigation has anything on Trump, but it has yielded 34 indictments and seven guilty pleas...and they still haven’t released the findings. Any one who says “the whole mueller debacle” has failed, at this date is pushing a fact-free agenda.
I understand what your talking about, but one could cast a net anywhere in washington and if there is enough funding for investigations and political backing, indictments would be easy peasy pumpkin pie.

There are going to be a few who will serve some time, and some lives have been ruined. But for the most part, it has very little to do, if anything with russian collusion.

And, I know I am biased, but the fucking Clintons, have gotten off with everything from rape, to lying under oath and prolly accessory to murder.
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Old 03-07-2019, 06:33 AM   #24
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Why do you think they're requesting financial documents from the President now? Collusion has fizzled and obstruction is DOA.
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Old 03-07-2019, 08:36 AM   #25
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Why do you think they're requesting financial documents from the President now? Collusion has fizzled and obstruction is DOA.
Collusion hasn’t been proven, but the financial docs may hold proof. Obstruction happened right out in the open.
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Collusion hasn’t been proven, but the financial docs may hold proof. Obstruction happened right out in the open.
What obstruction?
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Collusion hasn’t been proven, but the financial docs may hold proof. Obstruction happened right out in the open.
Dems are too stupid to read and understand financial documents, even if I waved them right in front of your faces. Some of you actually think Trump borrowed in rubles lol. How exactly would any financial statements "prove" collusion anyway? Selling luxury condos to Russians isn't a crime.

And how can justice be obstructed if you have no crime to begin with? Justice isn't thwarted by opposing an investigation into an imagined crime.
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I am a non-Trump person. He lies, and its all day long. Plus RELATED to hobbying, its this administration that pushed through FOSTA, so that alone should make this group look at him w a jaundiced eye as a total personal, and professional cock blocker.
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I am a non-Trump person. He lies, and its all day long. Plus RELATED to hobbying, its this administration that pushed through FOSTA, so that alone should make this group look at him w a jaundiced eye as a total personal, and professional cock blocker.
Congress overwhelmingly voted for FOSTA. Even if Trump vetoed it, congress had the votes to override his vetoe. Don’t blame FOSTA on Trump
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Congress overwhelmingly voted for FOSTA. Even if Trump vetoed it, congress had the votes to override his vetoe. Don’t blame FOSTA on Trump
You are so completely off base it’s hilarious.
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