Screened Provider working forr LE?

[Guest073113]

Hey all,
I have a weird question. Has anyone ever heard of a screend provider (in this case screened through p411) working with LE and busting a hobbyist? I had such a weird conversation with a very established, AWESOME and well reviewed p411 provider who I have actuall seen in the past that made me nervous. She mentioned money and she mentioned fucking and I just thought it was a bit weird since I thoght those 2 things were ALWAYS off limits to talk about. I think she was just having a conversation honestly but it made me nervous. Thoughts?

Thanks

W

[daratu1]

It would make me nervous as hell and cause me to never see her again.

As for the question, I haven't heard of any specific cases, but I know it has likely happened. Whether the p411 profile is just turned over or compromised or the lady in question is a CI/CW one wouldn't know until too late. Always think with the big head.

[Jannisary]

It could be that she's just comfortable enough with you after seeing you to be more open with what she talks about. I think never seeing her again would be a drastic solution to a perhaps non existing problem. At the same time it never hurts to be cautious. Is there a reason to rush to see her? If not then just let things sit a while. If she's an active popular provider she should get new recent reviews or guy commenting about seeing her and then you can feel more comfortable seeing her yourself.

[ginainthemorning]

It may just be because she was desperate and wanted to make sure you would book that day and I think you were smart to have stayed away.
I think any escort in her right mind, is not going to engage in any explicit talk. This is to protect herself and the client. God forbid her computer or phone ever get confiscated you wouldn't want those communications retrieved.
I have often wondered why some clients feel the need to call with explicit questions, after all if a girl is going to rip you off or pull a bait and switch or try up selling, don't you think she will lie to you first?
As far as p411 it is easy for the girls to get approved where as date-check requires a current member to vouch for them before they are added.
In Wisconsin they went after escorts that screened and a few got busted off p411, and now p411 does not have a section for Wisconsin.

[Miss_Puss007]

yes sir. I had a gentleman send email with date-check info requesting a 2hr appt outcall.......he just wanted to make sure bbbj and kissing were on the menu. Well, sorry pal....when you put it that way nothing is on the menu.

loose lips sinks ships!

[KenMonk]

If these are things she has never mentioned before I would stay away. Any time a lady that I have seen before does something out of character, odd, or discusses things we have never even hinted at discussing before I get nervous, and I become extremely guarded.

It may not even be LE that concerns me with odd behavior. Things that dramatically effects behavior from what I consider to be the norm for someone is just a red flag for potential issues. Be careful man and good luck.

[Guest071313-5]

Anything out of the norm avoid it like the plague. Never ever Never never never discuss until after her lips have touched Mr. Happy. If she's LE after that point, at least you'll have gotten a free bbbj.

[GinaXXX]

As far as p411 it is easy for the girls to get approved where as date-check requires a current member to vouch for them before they are added.

Actually, it's harder for providers to get approved on P411, since we only allow established client members (5+ Okays) or established reviewers (5+ reviews posted) to vouch for new providers. DC allows anyone on the site, client or provider, new or old, to vouch in new providers.

Gina, you could vouch in a completely fake provider today and have that set up within 5 minutes with DC. Why not give it a try and see which is easier, before making your claims. Not to mention, you could also vouch in a fake client pretty much the same way.

Unfortunately, there isn't much any verification site can do if a legitimate client or provider turns over their information once they are pressured to do sure. It has happened a handful of times, and all we can do is go around cleaning up the mess after the fact. The good news is that sort of thing has been extremely rare, and has been confined to two small jurisdictions in WI and AR.

I think the main difference is that DC doesn't make any sort of announcement when they have problems occur within their system, whereas I do..... because I feel that's my responsibility to the community. Of course, in some cases that makes people feel like that issues are widespread on P411, when the reality is that they are very few and far between. We work very hard to keep the site secure and safe. It definitely would be easier to just take a step back and disappear though, and pretend that things don't go wrong sometimes.

In regards to some one being explicit in the initial contact, it's unlikely to be a LE situation. They are smart enough to know that being graphic via email or phone will just spook their target, and they need a face to face discussion. However, if something doesn't feel right, it's always best to follow that feeling and stay far away!

Always,
Gina

[shooter6.5]

and I have know her for years and do know that she does all she can to make this as safe as it can be.

THAT BEING SAID::

Of course the OP;s original scenario is possible. Any screening is possible to get by depending on how much time and effort is put into it. For LE to sink that much effort into what is generally a misdemeanor, well there is more there than meets the eye. You truly need to be more concerned for your safety re all the wackos that are out there-and that is on both sides of this scenario. Use common sence, and do not let the pressure of the need for money or the need to have junior pampered drive your mind.

Any screening can be bypassed. And there is another thread on here that discusses phone texts and a system that allegedly erases them. They may be erased for the general public but a court order to the carrier will get them produced.

Some of you know me and most do not, but take my word for it, I know what I am talking about.

Have a great day

[40F Cougar]

I actually had verified a gentleman on here and agreed to see him, but when he called me he started saying some very inappropriate stuff. He was not a "newbie" he should have known better. When I told him it made me feel uncomfortable I'm sorry can't see him. Then he says it's because he is repeating what was said in reviews; then he starts in again with saying inappropriate things. People get sloppy and say stuff they shouldn't, both men and ladies I'm sure, but if I don't feel comfortable I'm certainly not taking any risks, ever, at all.

[KenMonk]

Originally Posted by PrincessLeeGFE

I actually had verified a gentleman on here and agreed to see him, but when he called me he started saying some very inappropriate stuff. He was not a "newbie" he should have known better. When I told him it made me feel uncomfortable I'm sorry can't see him. Then he says it's because he is repeating what was said in reviews; then he starts in again with saying inappropriate things. People get sloppy and say stuff they shouldn't, both men and ladies I'm sure, but if I don't feel comfortable I'm certainly not taking any risks, ever, at all.

If it is someone you haven't seen before, I understand being guarded, but I know after i've seen a lady, some dirty text and flirting back and forth, even if I don't have something on the books any time soon is hot and makes me want the lady even more. I'm also a horny little bastard, which may have something to do with it.

[bucketlist]

Hobbying is a good way to practice the art of flirting. Saying things that hint of desire without having to say anything explicit.

I know one provider who didn't take dirty to me until our fifth appointment, and she talked dirty very well. When I asked her about it, she said, "That's not first date material." =)

[Little Stevie]

You can take what these two posters say TO THE BANK!

Originally Posted by GinaXXX

Actually, it's harder for providers to get approved on P411, since we only allow established client members (5+ Okays) or established reviewers (5+ reviews posted) to vouch for new providers. DC allows anyone on the site, client or provider, new or old, to vouch in new providers.

Gina, you could vouch in a completely fake provider today and have that set up within 5 minutes with DC. Why not give it a try and see which is easier, before making your claims. Not to mention, you could also vouch in a fake client pretty much the same way.

Unfortunately, there isn't much any verification site can do if a legitimate client or provider turns over their information once they are pressured to do sure. It has happened a handful of times, and all we can do is go around cleaning up the mess after the fact. The good news is that sort of thing has been extremely rare, and has been confined to two small jurisdictions in WI and AR.

I think the main difference is that DC doesn't make any sort of announcement when they have problems occur within their system, whereas I do..... because I feel that's my responsibility to the community. Of course, in some cases that makes people feel like that issues are widespread on P411, when the reality is that they are very few and far between. We work very hard to keep the site secure and safe. It definitely would be easier to just take a step back and disappear though, and pretend that things don't go wrong sometimes.

In regards to some one being explicit in the initial contact, it's unlikely to be a LE situation. They are smart enough to know that being graphic via email or phone will just spook their target, and they need a face to face discussion. However, if something doesn't feel right, it's always best to follow that feeling and stay far away!

Always,
Gina

Originally Posted by shooter6.5

and I have know her for years and do know that she does all she can to make this as safe as it can be.

THAT BEING SAID::

Of course the OP;s original scenario is possible. Any screening is possible to get by depending on how much time and effort is put into it. For LE to sink that much effort into what is generally a misdemeanor, well there is more there than meets the eye. You truly need to be more concerned for your safety re all the wackos that are out there-and that is on both sides of this scenario. Use common sence, and do not let the pressure of the need for money or the need to have junior pampered drive your mind.

Any screening can be bypassed. And there is another thread on here that discusses phone texts and a system that allegedly erases them. They may be erased for the general public but a court order to the carrier will get them produced.

Some of you know me and most do not, but take my word for it, I know what I am talking about.

Have a great day

[mikkifine]

I have had a few hobbiests with a lot of reviews thinking it was okay to be explicit with me. One even told me I had nothing to worry about because he had over 30 reviews.

I would rather not take a chance with someone like that.

[mikkifine]

He screwed a chance of an appointment just because he wanted to be stupid. Guys like that need to spend a few days in jail just to realize they are playing a very dangerous game.

Originally Posted by Dakota_Lynn

yes sir. I had a gentleman send email with date-check info requesting a 2hr appt outcall.......he just wanted to make sure bbbj and kissing were on the menu. Well, sorry pal....when you put it that way nothing is on the menu.

loose lips sinks ships!