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Old 08-02-2011, 08:11 AM   #1
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Americans cut spending for first time in 20 months


WASHINGTON (AP) — Americans cut back on their spending in June for the first time in nearly two years and their incomes grew by the smallest amount in nine months, a troubling sign for an economy that is barely growing.
Consumer spending dropped 0.2 percent in June, the Commerce Department said Tuesday. Some of the decline was caused by declining food and energy prices, which had spiked in recent months. When excluding spending on those items, consumer spending was flat.
Incomes rose 0.1 percent, the weakest growth since September. Many people are responding by saving more. The personal savings rate rose to 5.4 percent of after-tax incomes, the highest level since August 2010.
The data confirmed last week's report that showed the U.S. economy expanded at a tepid annual rate of 1.3 percent in the spring after only 0.4 percent growth in the first three months of the year. But it also highlighted that consumer spending weakened during the April-June quarter, which could mean the sluggish economy is worsening.
Stock futures were trading lower after the report was released.
"The recent run of weak economic news has made us more concerned that any rebound will be more modest than previously looked likely," said Paul Dales, senior U.S. economist at Capital Economics, .
High gas prices and unemployment have squeezed household budgets this spring. Many Americans are cutting back on purchases of cars, furniture, appliances and electronics. Consumer spending is closely watched because it accounts for 70 percent of economic activity.
Employers have responded by reducing hiring. The economy added just 18,000 net jobs in June, the fewest in nine months. The unemployment rate rose to 9.2 percent, the highest level this year.
The government issues its July employment report on Friday.
The biggest drop in spending occurred in such items as food and gasoline. Spending on such non-durable goods fell 5.5 percent, reflecting price declines after spikes early this year. An inflation gauge tied to consumer spending dropped 0.2 percent in June, the biggest one-month decline since September 2009. Outside of food and energy, prices were up 0.1 percent.
Still, spending on durable goods, such as autos, also fell in June 1.1 percent. One reason for the decline may be the shortage of popular car models in showrooms. Supply chain disruptions caused by the March earthquake in Japan have limited production of auto and electronic parts.
Many analysts are still hopeful that growth will rebound in the second half of the year. They expect auto production and sales to pick up once supply chain disruptions ease.
But the turnaround may not come for a while. Manufacturers had their weakest growth in two years in July, according to the Institute for Supply Management.
The private trade group of purchasing executives said that its index of manufacturing activity fell to 50.9 percent in July from 55.3 percent in June. The reading was the lowest since July 2009 — one month after the recession officially ended.
And gas prices remain high, even after coming down from their peak of nearly $4 a gallon (3.8 liters) in early May. The average price for a gallon was $3.70 on Tuesday — 14 cents higher than a month ago and almost a dollar more than the same month last year.
Some economists have begun to trim their forecasts for the second half of the year. Dales and his colleagues at Capital Economics have cut their outlook for second half growth to 2 percent, down from a previous forecast of 2.5 percent growth in the second half of this year.
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Old 08-02-2011, 09:16 AM   #2
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I don't see the debt deal is such a big win for the Tea Party !

America will get a downgrade in it's credit rating; the decline of America will continue, the debt will take us down in the coming decade....

Then the real battle (to rebuild a Constitutionally Conservative America) begins.

But the election of Obama will foreever be the date that America entered it's fall !
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Old 08-02-2011, 05:10 PM   #3
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I don't see the debt deal is such a big win for the Tea Party !

America will get a downgrade in it's credit rating; the decline of America will continue, the debt will take us down in the coming decade....

Then the real battle (to rebuild a Constitutionally Conservative America) begins.

But the election of Obama will foreever be the date that America entered it's fall !
Dude who the fuc was your history teacher?

This country's problem is that folks want something for nothing. The left wants entitlements(well the right wants them too...see how they cried when Medicade was discussed about being downsized) and the right want to spen blindly on the military.

And we have a huge segment of society (You whirlaway) that do not even understand the facts.....



http://conservativesarecommunistss.b. ..-stockman.html


Stage 1. Nixon irresponsible, dumps gold, U.S starts spending binge

Richard Nixon's gold policies get Stockman's first assault, for defaulting "on American obligations under the 1944 Bretton Woods agreement to balance our accounts with the world." So for the past 40 years, America's been living "beyond our means as a nation" on "borrowed prosperity on an epic scale ... an outcome that Milton Friedman said could never happen when, in 1971, he persuaded President Nixon to unleash on the world paper dollars no longer redeemable in gold or other fixed monetary reserves."

Remember Friedman: "Just let the free market set currency exchange rates, he said, and trade deficits will self-correct." Friedman was wrong by trillions. And unfortunately "once relieved of the discipline of defending a fixed value for their currencies, politicians the world over were free to cheapen their money and disregard their neighbors."

And without discipline America was also encouraging "global monetary chaos as foreign central banks run their own printing presses at ever faster speeds to sop up the tidal wave of dollars coming from the Federal Reserve." Yes, the road to the coming apocalypse began with a Republican president listening to a misguided Nobel economist's advice.

Stage 2. Crushing debts from domestic excesses, war mongering

Stockman says "the second unhappy change in the American economy has been the extraordinary growth of our public debt. In 1970 it was just 40% of gross domestic product, or about $425 billion. When it reaches $18 trillion, it will be 40 times greater than in 1970." Who's to blame? Not big-spending Dems, says Stockman, but "from the Republican Party's embrace, about three decades ago, of the insidious doctrine that deficits don't matter if they result from tax cuts."

Back "in 1981, traditional Republicans supported tax cuts," but Stockman makes clear, they had to be "matched by spending cuts, to offset the way inflation was pushing many taxpayers into higher brackets and to spur investment. The Reagan administration's hastily prepared fiscal blueprint, however, was no match for the primordial forces -- the welfare state and the warfare state -- that drive the federal spending machine."

OK, stop a minute. As you absorb Stockman's indictment of how his Republican party has "destroyed the U.S. economy," you're probably asking yourself why anyone should believe a traitor to the Reagan legacy. I believe party affiliation is irrelevant here. This is a crucial subject that must be explored because it further exposes a dangerous historical trend where politics is so partisan it's having huge negative consequences.

Yes, the GOP does have a welfare-warfare state: Stockman says "the neocons were pushing the military budget skyward. And the Republicans on Capitol Hill who were supposed to cut spending, exempted from the knife most of the domestic budget -- entitlements, farm subsidies, education, water projects. But in the end it was a new cadre of ideological tax-cutters who killed the Republicans' fiscal religion."

When Fed chief Paul Volcker "crushed inflation" in the '80s we got a "solid economic rebound." But then "the new tax-cutters not only claimed victory for their supply-side strategy but hooked Republicans for good on the delusion that the economy will outgrow the deficit if plied with enough tax cuts." By 2009, they "reduced federal revenues to 15% of gross domestic product," lowest since the 1940s. Still today they're irrationally demanding an extension of those "unaffordable Bush tax cuts [that] would amount to a bankruptcy filing."

Recently Bush made matters far worse by "rarely vetoing a budget bill and engaging in two unfinanced foreign military adventures." Bush also gave in "on domestic spending cuts, signing into law $420 billion in nondefense appropriations, a 65% percent gain from the $260 billion he had inherited eight years earlier. Republicans thus joined the Democrats in a shameless embrace of a free-lunch fiscal policy." Takes two to tango.

Stage 3. Wall Street's deadly 'vast, unproductive expansion'

Stockman continues pounding away: "The third ominous change in the American economy has been the vast, unproductive expansion of our financial sector." He warns that "Republicans have been oblivious to the grave danger of flooding financial markets with freely printed money and, at the same time, removing traditional restrictions on leverage and speculation." Wrong, not oblivious. Self-interested Republican loyalists like Paulson, Bernanke and Geithner knew exactly what they were doing.

They wanted the economy, markets and the government to be under the absolute control of Wall Street's too-greedy-to-fail banks. They conned Congress and the Fed into bailing out an estimated $23.7 trillion debt. Worse, they have since destroyed meaningful financial reforms. So Wall Street is now back to business as usual blowing another bigger bubble/bust cycle that will culminate in the coming "American Apocalypse."

Stockman refers to Wall Street's surviving banks as "wards of the state." Wrong, the opposite is true. Wall Street now controls Washington, and its "unproductive" trading is "extracting billions from the economy with a lot of pointless speculation in stocks, bonds, commodities and derivatives." Wall Street banks like Goldman were virtually bankrupt, would have never survived without government-guaranteed deposits and "virtually free money from the Fed's discount window to cover their bad bets."

Stage 4. New American Revolution class-warfare coming soon

Finally, thanks to Republican policies that let us "live beyond our means for decades by borrowing heavily from abroad, we have steadily sent jobs and production offshore," while at home "high-value jobs in goods production ... trade, transportation, information technology and the professions shrunk by 12% to 68 million from 77 million."

As the apocalypse draws near, Stockman sees a class-rebellion, a new revolution, a war against greed and the wealthy. Soon. The trigger will be the growing gap between economic classes: No wonder "that during the last bubble (from 2002 to 2006) the top 1% of Americans -- paid mainly from the Wall Street casino -- received two-thirds of the gain in national income, while the bottom 90% -- mainly dependent on Main Street's shrinking economy -- got only 12%. This growing wealth gap is not the market's fault. It's the decaying fruit of bad economic policy."
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Old 08-02-2011, 05:39 PM   #4
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What Your Country Can Do For You, But What You Can Do For Your Country.

I heard that in a speech way back when I was about 14, it must have not been very important, since nobody paid attention.

Or maybe it has been re-translated into language that fits the Party that the man who made the speech was a member of.

"Hey, dude, were's my check".
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Old 08-02-2011, 07:02 PM   #5
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I guess paying taxes isn't part of what you can do for your country.
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I'd bet a HDH's all night rate that I pay more in taxes than you make.
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Old 08-02-2011, 09:12 PM   #7
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WTF, you are missing a huge chunk of history. What about FDR devaluing the dollar by 41%? Johnson's Great Society (the beginning of the something for nothing thinking)?

Though on some points you are right, you have left out a huge chunk of relevant history, more than I wish to type.

Also, just noticed....the source for your points? Really, can you say that with a straight face? Lol, like a freshman quoting wikipedia in a class presentation, somethings quickly point out how foolish and lazy you are in your research.....or the lack of a creditable source.

Not trying to flame anyone, but that as a source, lol.
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Also, just noticed....the source for your points? Really, can you say that with a straight face? Lol, like a freshman quoting wikipedia in a class presentation, somethings quickly point out how foolish and lazy you are in your research.....or the lack of a creditable source.

Not trying to flame anyone, but that as a source, lol.
WTF are you talking about?....just because I used a source that used another source (The WallStreet J) does not make the source I used , useless. Had I used the orginial WSL link would you have said the same thing? It was just reprinted from there! Here is this better?
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/reagan-insider-gop-destroyed-us-economy-part-2-2011-05-24

It says the exact same thing!

Lets hope the fuc you aren't trying to flame anyone, you sure as hell aren't trying to do any research on sources either.



Wednesday, August 11, 2010

David Stockman, Reagan Insider: The GOP Has Destroyed the US Economy



From The Wall Street Journal -- August 10, 2010:

By PAUL B. FARRELL -- Market Watch:

Reagan insider: 'GOP destroyed U.S. economy'
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I'd bet a HDH's all night rate that I pay more in taxes than you make.
I've noticed you seem to have this uncontrollable urge to continually reference how much money you make.
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Old 08-03-2011, 04:38 AM   #10
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I've noticed you seem to have this uncontrollable urge to continually reference how much money you make.
Lol, so funny, but maybe he just needs a better tax accountant.
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someone continually bitching about how much they DON'T have.
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Lol, so funny, but maybe he just needs a better tax accountant.
Maybe si; maybe no. Sometimes the best accountant in the world can't save you from your own wallet.

I, like Jackie, have always paid my taxes. And I have never been overly impressed with the way the money was spent.
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Old 08-03-2011, 12:29 PM   #13
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I'd bet a HDH's all night rate that I pay more in taxes than you make.
If that's the case, I'm on your side and would be happy to take donations to see your favorite little redhead. I'm happy to save you money and not see an HDH. Consider it a donation to Surcher's make a wish program that benefits the disabled and your favorite lady. Of course, if you'd rather me see an HDH, who am I to complain? PM me for details.

I wonder if we could make it a tax refundable donation, lol.
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someone continually bitching about how much they DON'T have.
I'll assume you're talking about me, so all i have to say is that if i've ever done that, you'd have a point. I haven't. You don't.
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