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Old 12-29-2018, 02:33 AM   #1
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Default Stupid border wall

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattve...again-n2537814

so this wall is stupid? hmm...

$18 million raised to date to reach a goal of 1 billion in 12 days.

sponsor says 63 million voted for trump, $80 per person makes $5 billion.


https://www.gofundme.com/TheTrumpWall


this one appears to have legs as compared to some of the "joke" anti-trump wall pages which have less than $1000 donated.
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Old 12-29-2018, 05:41 AM   #2
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These dildos think that damn wall will do something. That will be great if you dildos pay for it. "Who's going to pay for the wall? YOU ARE!" Stupid dildos.

Did you donate your 80 bucks. I bet you trumpers on here didn't do shit.
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Old 12-29-2018, 05:52 AM   #3
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These dildos think that damn wall will do something.
Would that be compared to the other stupid dildos that think doing nothing is going to do something?
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Old 12-29-2018, 06:41 AM   #4
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Yes it would. Picking them up and sending them back would be best. No asylum no nothing. Fuck the wall. Or you pay for it.
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Old 12-29-2018, 08:51 AM   #5
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Isn't it great when the American people can do something about a problem when the government can't get their shit together?? I love that guy. Amazing!
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Old 12-29-2018, 09:27 AM   #6
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Isn't it great when the American people can do something about a problem when the government can't get their shit together?? I love that guy. Amazing!
I've always said I have no problem with "the wall" as defined by Trump as long as taxpayer dollars do not pay for it.
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Old 12-29-2018, 09:38 AM   #7
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the problem with the current barrier that what we have on much of the border is that they are too easy to climb over and generally don't give border patrol ample time to intercept the illegals after the breach.
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Old 12-29-2018, 09:46 AM   #8
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for those who hate the idea of a wall or fence, why do you hate that idea?


other nations have fences and walls designed to keep unwanted people out. why do we have to be an exception to those countries?
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Even lil Chucky Schumer was for building a barrier along the border ... "far more secure...created a significant barrier to illegal immigration"... until he wasn't. See at 4:50:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=728SW65tlU0
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Amazing how Hypocrisy is the mainstay of the DPST leadership.

He was on OAN today stating "I have never been in favor of a wall"
Liar and hypocrite.
I'd like to see him and Pelosi investigated as they plan to do Trump with tax returns, etc.
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https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattve...again-n2537814

so this wall is stupid? hmm...

$18 million raised to date to reach a goal of 1 billion in 12 days.

sponsor says 63 million voted for trump, $80 per person makes $5 billion.


https://www.gofundme.com/TheTrumpWall


this one appears to have legs as compared to some of the "joke" anti-trump wall pages which have less than $1000 donated.

Good let the coefefe sippers pay for it.
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Old 12-30-2018, 06:59 AM   #12
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for those who hate the idea of a wall or fence, why do you hate that idea?


other nations have fences and walls designed to keep unwanted people out. why do we have to be an exception to those countries?

It is not the idea of a fence or wall that I dislike, it is Trump's insistence, which he may be softening on, for a wall that is overkill at a huge cost to taxpayers.

Under the new timeline established in the documents, interested bidders will have two weeks to create and submit a design concept of what the border-wall prototype will look like, with two design options for companies.

One will be exclusively for "reinforced solid concrete" prototypes, while the second for "other" materials is more vague and does not specify the type of materials that can be used in the design.
Other requirements include:

• A "physically imposing" height of no less than 18 feet but preferably 30 feet tall.
• Anti-climbing mechanisms, either by ladder or other tools like hooks that humans may be able to get across.
• Prevent tunneling 6 feet below ground.
• For breaches to the wall (using building or cutting tools, or torches) to take at least one hour in concrete designs, and 30 minutes in the "other" designs.
• Accommodate surface draining, a particularly sensitive issue in the uneven, Arizona desert that can easily flood with heavy rains.
• Be able to accommodate "pedestrian and automated mechanized vehicle sliding gates."



Nothing like that has been built thus far, despite Trump's claiming that it has.

https://www.azcentral.com/story/news...ss/1898283002/

New walls are being constructed. They are in all likelihood better than what is currently there. They are NOT what Trump wanted. But Trump must keep his promise to his base voters. Even though only 44% of those asked in a recent poll support the wall.

https://thehill.com/homenews/adminis...for-compromise
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for those who hate the idea of a wall or fence, why do you hate that idea?


other nations have fences and walls designed to keep unwanted people out. why do we have to be an exception to those countries?
I am for secure borders but walls have limits. You can get over a wall with a ladder or dig a tunnel underneath them. This is exactly how the cartels are bringing drugs into the country through these tunnels and the war on drugs has not stopped this. It is a boondoggle and just something Trump wants his name on.

They have lied over and over again about Middle East terrorists coming into the country. Trump just lies and his backers don't care at all.

Also what about the other 3 sides of our country that are open. The UK is an island and is also dealing with an immigration problem.

I am also pissed that Trump lied about Mexico paying for the wall about 100 times in speeches. He said over and over again that Mexico will pay for the wall.
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Isn't it great when the American people can do something about a problem when the government can't get their shit together?? I love that guy. Amazing!
The amazing thing will be if this shit can break 100 million. I think 25 max. Trumpers are poor mouthing the donations. 20 bucks 10 bucks. What happened to $80 cheap MFs. I still bet yall ain't donated shit but thoughts and prayers.
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Old 12-31-2018, 08:30 AM   #15
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The amazing thing will be if this shit can break 100 million. I think 25 max. Trumpers are poor mouthing the donations. 20 bucks 10 bucks. What happened to $80 cheap MFs. I still bet yall ain't donated shit but thoughts and prayers.

there are people who put up more then $80.
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