Help me understand from a business perspective

[oktome]

This would apply to any area in my opinion, but I would think that most women want to verify their suitors, make sure there is little drama and make the most from a business situation as they can. Yet I see time and time again where a traveling lady shows up out of the blue, posts one post here or on backpage that she is in town for a night and then moves on. How is that a good business practice? Wouldn't generally speaking this be counter to the things I posted above.

I mean lets face it, I guess you have guys the have an addiction of sort that can just scan,backpage all day and run out to meet the newest attraction, but most men are married that participate in the hobby. I would imagine . many of the more well to do men have more obligations than a guy that can drop everything.

I realize this does not apply to the more seasoned traveling ladies, but it seems like such common sense. Then I hear a lady talk about how dead it was, or how many no shows etc... Well of course a guy books you with good intentions knowing he has to find a way out of his real life and then that falls through.

I just see a few pass through this area that I have been interested in, but I'm one that has to do a bit of planning.

[seyah55]

oktome
you just described my life exactly. I live in Southern IL and we get a few traveling providers. Last week no one was around. Suddenly yesterday 3 show up. Two who have been around before, one of which I had seen in West Ky. several months ago. I emailed each one to check on a specific time that I could meet. None responded. Two said no text. Texted the third today, no response. I have to plan to be away from my business so I need better communication and having them call me back while I am working is not cool or calling when I get home.

All I can say is I feel you pain and it seems only the true professional traveling ladies know how to deal with professional business men. Most BP girls never get it.

[DallasRain]

I plan 2 to 3 weeks out and start advertising/writing past friends,etc.......

[oktome]

It appears to me that it comes down to maturity and business sense. How you operate Dallas makes complete sense. Repeat business generally has to be the easiest business from a safety standpoint.

Most of these gals are younger and know about sites like this, but prefer to use backpage? Is there a cost associated with these type of sites? Is there more drama to be a verified member than I realize? Do some of the girls on back page see themselves as too independent to take part on sites like this or do they just see themselves as internet street walkers? I am asking because I used this site and others to protect myself and can't understand the mentality of not trying to shoot the highest level of clientele with the least amount of drama and fill in the gaps with whatever. Am I just off base when it comes the quality of men that are hobbyists? I know Vegas and Phoenix are different animals but when I speak with ladys I have met out there, I am left with the impression that a fair share of the guys are professionals, decent looking and decent human beings. Is that a misrepresentation and most hobbyist are just trolling backpage, and the in and out of jail types?

[gigi_gypsy]

I advertise on many sites including this one and backpage. I continue to advertise on BP because many men still browse BP even though they are on sites like this. I don't know why, but they do.

Also, from BP I've gotten some of my best long time clients BUT it is going through a lot of work to weed out the players from the more serious ones.

I think men just getting into the business go to BP beLcause it is more well known than the other sites.

Like Dallas, I advertise in advance so plans can be made.

I have a policy never to contact clients unless they contact me. I know I may be missing out on some bookings, but it is just how I work.

[oktome]

Gigi, in small town area you have to browse backpage because that is the standard entry point when looking for traveling ladies etc. Of course from there you look to sites like this for reviews and legitimacy. I would never engage in a conversation with someone that has no other information other than backpage. . What I don't understand is when they may they have very minor presence on sites like this, but post almost exclusively to backpage. I see a couple young ladies that post in Springfield backpage but are mentioned here once, or none. I realize most of these are scams or worse, but why would a legitimate provider not engage in a community like? Why would they adverstise exclusively to backpage, without trying to build a reputation that can be verified on sites like this. I could give you several ladies on backpage that seem to advertise there frequently, but almost no other place you can find them, they are legit in that they are not LE but they don't take advantage of the fact that they can choose from a higher end clientele if they only had a more upstanding reputation.

I guess it would similar to running an accounting firm or law office but only advertising in the penny saver. Would my business clients have a better pedigree coming form that source or advertising in the Wall Street Journal?

[gigi_gypsy]

oktome - I agree - I don't know why some don't think of this like a business. OR maybe they are not thinking beyond making a few bucks??? OR maybe they think they are being more UTR? OR who knows

Very early on, I bought my own domain name and built a website. I joined a couple of boards, got reviews and now have a great base of regulars.

[naughtynatale]

Not sure if this applies but maybe it is due to the treatment they get from ladies on the boards here in the Lou. I personally do not care to be known on boards anymore due to the past treatment I have gotten. I do understand that when first starting that it might be beneficial. I also know that when ecom was up there were tons of ladies on there that were not on any local boards at all. I don't blame them. I rarely post on any boards anymore due to all the drama that is attached to them.

[MWCompanions]

I have traveled with little to no warning. Most of the time it works out, other times it does not.

Normally where I travel I have repeat business. I let people know I will visiting via IM, email or whatever preferred method they choose. When I arrive I post ads. That usually fills in any cancellations I have.

There have been times when someone has taken care of my room and/or booked multiple hours making an out of town trip worth going spur of the moment.

From my standpoint I do last minute because I do not know what my schedule or finances will be that far in advance. I would rather know I can make it and keep the dates I have chosen rather than having to cancel last minute due to circumstances.

[gigi_gypsy]

Originally Posted by naughtynatale

Not sure if this applies but maybe it is due to the treatment they get from ladies on the boards here in the Lou. I personally do not care to be known on boards anymore due to the past treatment I have gotten. I do understand that when first starting that it might be beneficial. I also know that when ecom was up there were tons of ladies on there that were not on any local boards at all. I don't blame them. I rarely post on any boards anymore due to all the drama that is attached to them.

I don't know the story, but am sorry that it happened to you. You have always been nice to me and thank you

I totally agree - lots of drama. There is a fine line of being on boards and not getting involved in drama. When I first got in the business, I was drawn into it and became part of it (and the cause of some). I've certainly learned my lesson and steer clear of it now. If I think something will be dangerous to someone - I speak that part, but I stay out of the rest.

Originally Posted by MWCompanions

I have traveled with little to no warning. Most of the time it works out, other times it does not.

Normally where I travel I have repeat business. I let people know I will visiting via IM, email or whatever preferred method they choose. When I arrive I post ads. That usually fills in any cancellations I have.

There have been times when someone has taken care of my room and/or booked multiple hours making an out of town trip worth going spur of the moment.

From my standpoint I do last minute because I do not know what my schedule or finances will be that far in advance. I would rather know I can make it and keep the dates I have chosen rather than having to cancel last minute due to circumstances.

That is great that works for you and you found your method. It has been a while since I've toured, so I have to plan in advance. Generally people who book me need notice - that is just my base of clientele. Mostly because I do not contact clients unless they contact me - I know contacting past clients is good marketing sense, but I just don't do it. I have a knack for bad timing, so I would send a message at the wrong time/place

[naughtynatale]

Gigi it is not big deal. I truly believe in Karma. It is their loss not mine and as always I am still standing LOL

[Mizzou82]

It is really hard finding quality and reputable providers here in Central MO (Columbia, Jefferson City) I am always loyal to gr8 providers, but unfortunately I have moved to a location where those don't exist.

The travelers are on BP. I always check here first. Go ahead and check though, this board may get 2 ads a day. BP in columbia gets 10-15 and the Lou gets over 100. I have found profiles here after asking BP providers if they have one. Why would you not post on here in addition to BP and/or refer to your ECCIE screen name. Seems to me to be a lot safer for a providier to hook up from this site

I too will not join P411 because I don't want any database, anywhere to have my total info. P411 will be the first place some idiot district attorney is going to go to claim his fame by stamping out the hobby in his town. Don't think for a minute that any site owner will go to jail for contempt to protect your name, phone number, address, or site history.

I have lost out on Tailor, even after providing 2 references and explaining why I am not on P411. I give her credit for being carefull, I like that, but screening out a client because he is not on P411 is crazy. There are a lot of hobbyists that won't give out personal information to a site.

Back to point. I would use this board exclusively if the providers would post ads here. Although not impossible, it is much harder for LE to run entrapment stings on here with bogus provider ads

[grayturner]

I hesitated to respond because you bumped a thread that is over 30 days old. you probably should have started a new one.
As far as the number of BP ads in Columbia there always have been and always will be fewer than STL or KC. It simply has to do with the size of the market. If you think Columbia is bad, check our Kirksville or Cape.
I too live in central MO. and I have been a P411 member for 5 years. I don't understand your objection to providing the information they require. I have not yet heard of it being illegal to join an adult web site. For that "idiot" district attorney to prosecute you he would have to prove that you have committed an illegal act, and once again just joining and being a member is not illegal. If you make an appointment on P411 you are agreeing to pay a certain ammount for a certain period of time. Once again , not illegal. If I want to spend 300 dollars an hour to have some one sew up holes in my socks, that's my business.
I prefer to see P411 providers,no one likes surprises.

[Mizzou82]

thanks, should have started a new thread. I am not worried about arrest. I don't want my name made public. And I feel that is a real issue with P411. It would save a lot of hassle with some providers, no doubt.

[LauraFascinating]

p411 is based out of canada where the hooby is not illegal ...ive known Gina for many yrs who runs it