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Old 11-30-2012, 06:18 PM   #436
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Lotsforkate thanks that is a very good list you have too.
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I think upscale can be many different personality and bevaviorial traits.

I do agree be sweet, kind, curtious, patient. If I am having a less than pleasant experience I don't say a word at that moment.
Being well rounded is also a must...I would have never thought men would want more than p_ _ _ _y. To my surprise they enjoyed talking with me, laughing, and appreciated my tenderness in a way that comes natural for me but didn't realize it would make me high on the list of anyone. They enjoy pillow talk and holding eye contact throughout the experience. I also found...they want to take you places if you look like you could really pass as their girlfriend in their world. That to me is a huge compliment from an upscale man to be comfortable to be seen with you amongst his friends or collegues.
To me...she should be a lady outside of that room and capable of a wildness most people would never guess from looking at her. If she clearly looks like what we sterotype a hooker look than she is NOT upscale. If seeing her you might think she were a model (model from the covers of vogue not playboy) or a professional...such as an attorney.. thats indicative of an upscale girl. Her pics should be professional...that I agree with...you shouldnt be able to veiw her peri area from a hotel bathroom mirror w one leg strategically hurled over the vanity while she holds her cell phone in front of her face and the thrown in plain veiw behind her.
I also happen to beleive that if her name isn't just a normal name (a normal attractive name) than upscale might be a diffcult claim -- (no offense "nellynipples")! The discussion could go on and on I immagine!

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Shawna,

I post on and off again on this really good thread. I have taken two providers out in the real world. You have stated what many clients are really looking for.. a mental (ok maybe even emotional) connection, is as important, if not more important then the p_ _ _ _ y. When a client seeking this experience finds it with a particular provider, they will definitely open to pocket book and pay a premium for this value.

Being upper middle class client, doing a HDH experience, or a long date in the public is the exception. I wish I could do it more, and I appreciate your perspective that do so is to pay a compliment to the provider.
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Old 12-05-2012, 10:42 PM   #439
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Okay i'll bite. One definite trait is to never be seen in public in any clothing that makes it obvious what your profession is. Always look classy in public. Sexy, hot and classy do not have to be mutually exclusive. Whatever you want to wear or not wear in private is your own business.

Additionally a high class or upscale provider would never be caught smoking. Also an upscale provider would be well mannered and not curse or use vulgar or unsavory language while in public. Whatever you do in private again is private but unless a man smokes himself i can just about guarantee you they don't like a smoker.

The proper use of the english language i would also think would be needed to be considered an upscale provider. You wouldn't need to be an english major or anything like that, just don't sound like an uneducated fool everytime you open your mouth.

So that's about all i have at the moment. If i think of more i'll add it if someone else doesn't.
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Okay i'll bite. One definite trait is to never be seen in public in any clothing that makes it obvious what your profession is. Always look classy in public. Sexy, hot and classy do not have to be mutually exclusive. Whatever you want to wear or not wear in private is your own business.

Additionally a high class or upscale provider would never be caught smoking. Also an upscale provider would be well mannered and not curse or use vulgar or unsavory language while in public. Whatever you do in private again is private but unless a man smokes himself i can just about guarantee you they don't like a smoker.

The proper use of the english language i would also think would be needed to be considered an upscale provider. You wouldn't need to be an english major or anything like that, just don't sound like an uneducated fool everytime you open your mouth.

So that's about all i have at the moment. If i think of more i'll add it if someone else doesn't.
Perfectly said !!
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The proper use of the english language i would also think would be needed to be considered an upscale provider. You wouldn't need to be an english major or anything like that, just don't sound like an uneducated fool everytime you open your mouth.
Hmmm... How about people that use the english language proper, but still sound like fools, because everything they say is just plain stupid?
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i like your input, but I think smoking can be sexy. it is not on my bucket list, but I am fine burning one with a provider in the right setting is relaxing.



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Old 12-06-2012, 04:04 AM   #443
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i am married to an English teacher, LOL. I think talking in English is overrated, LOL.

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Hmmm... How about people that use the english language proper, but still sound like fools, because everything they say is just plain stupid?
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i like your input, but I think smoking can be sexy. it is not on my bucket list, but I am fine burning one with a provider in the right setting is relaxing.

As a European I smoke sometimes cigarettes. Not to the level of addictedness, but sometimes as a stress relief. However, it is an absolute NO GO to smoke with or in front of clients. Ever.

However, if a client invites me to go out in one of these "cigar bars" we have in Europe, I share a good cigar as well.

I do think that habits like smoking and drinking alcohol is something that should not be done in front of clients, unless you are cordially invited, and even then , of course , in a moderate way. That is a kind of "unspoken" rule in the general world of escorting, it does not really contribute to HDHs only in my opinion.

As to my joke with the english language, cursing and swear words are ok in europe (not in an overrated matter, and I try to not use them, for sure) AS LONG as you contribute something intelligent and classy in a conversation. In Europe we don`t see "swear" words as such a bad thing like americans do. We put emphasize on the "content" of the discussion, not the ornamental frames. For me personally, a person that is well spoken and has nothing interesting or intelligent to say, is as a matter of fact uninteresting, no matter how words are put , and sentences lack the "naughty" words. The content is what matters. If you have something to say, say it. If not, STFU .


We call that "creating hot air out of nothing" or "using oxygen in an abusive manner" :-)

This is especially valid, since men in Europe tend to book expensive escorts to accompagny them in business settings. When talking with their business partners, having dinner etc. So , if you have to say something, the CONTENT is important. And the humour. As a lady partaking in such dinners, best is you say nothing, and if you say something, it has to be funny and lighten up the athmosphere, and it has to be something intelligent, and not something that makes everyone yawn out of boredom. In such contexts, jokes can contain also "naughty words" or even "swear" words, as it can be a fun element. But of course not in a plump or rude offensive manner. But in a way of exchanging cultural naughtiness and intellectual qualities.


But don`t embarass yourself with saying something and it is stupid , and everyone - except you - is aware of that. That is what is considered really RUDE in Europe. If you are highly intelligent , say something intelligent, people find interesting, minor mishaps , like swear words, are forgiven, if put in proper context .

The content of the conversation matters and not how well you try "not" to curse, e.g. the french for example, even when highly educated or in top positions , do use swear words a lot.

In Europe (let`s say western europe) we have a general understanding, that if you reached something professionally, are an intellectual people listen to, and you have "made yourself", that some people tend to "not behave" properly, because they "can afford" to, as they are so good or skilled at what they do, that people can`t afford to NOT hire them. So - actually - to be able to pull of whatever you want to do or feel like doing, is not a bad thing, it can be seen as a "quality measurement". People look at that and say, God, look at this guy, he must be important to pull that off and not be thrown out of the bar, restaurant, work etc. . It`s only bad if your on the low end of the "food" chain, because then - you can face the consequences.

That is just my Euro-take on this, since HDHs do most often work internationally.

Of course, and now we come to the next point of mine: There is something called "social skills" and "cultural nuances" any escort should be aware of. Which means, if I am hanging out with an american client, or even in the USA with an american client,

for sure I adapt to the rules that are deemed appropriate in "their" culture. Which means, absolute no use of "swear" words.
However, if I hang out with different cultures, a different set of rules might apply, and in some contexts it is ok to use "rude" words, if you are poking fun, or have a humorous conversation.

In the USA this is an absolute No-Go. But, it does not mean that people who "adapt" are less skilled or less HDHs. I think,
social awareness, cultural awareness is something that needs to be well learned and enhanced all the time.

Before I went to Portugal, I studied exactly what kind of words you should not use, how to appear when you need something, to say "obrigada" instead of "Gracias" (you will be surprised how many people don`t seem to understand that, and how offensive it is to portuguese culture - as they have a kind of competition since centuries with the spanish culture - if you say "gracias" to a portuguese. And many many people DO exactly that)

So there are the slight things you need to investigate to appear properly.
Also the dress codes:
While in Europe you can wear fancy pointy heels in a class enviroment, even with clients, in the USA you rather should go for the more conservative attire, specially when you are an escort, since you don`t want to draw attention.
So - no pointy heels ) and more of a conservative attire .

These are very small things that can make a BIG difference, wherever you are.

In Lisbon, however, if you go out , you usually carry your heels in a bag and wear flats, since you can hardly walk in heels in the city at all, you put on the heels in the restaurants, and fancy bars, and then back in the bag. "Calzada portuguesa" it is called. If you run around in Lisbon with high heels people stare at you. No one does that. No one wants that

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Nina,

You are certainly a student of culture, that would be a great resource in the corporate world. I find myself in communication with people in Europe, and Asia, and fortunately, they learn English. I scratch my head at some behaviors, but now it makes a little more sense, after your examples above.

I see I goofed on the pic I inserted, and will try again, of a "smoking" hot classic lady, Audrey Hepburn.

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Honestly the majority of providers smoke period lol. From Upscale to Street walkers lol
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Honestly the majority of providers smoke period lol. From Upscale to Street walkers lol
That seems to be true, but no matter, you should never smell like cigarettes. I wonder how smokers do that sometimes, as I can smell it a mile afar when a client is a smoker
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Nina,

You are certainly a student of culture, that would be a great resource in the corporate world. I find myself in communication with people in Europe, and Asia, and fortunately, they learn English. I scratch my head at some behaviors, but now it makes a little more sense, after your examples above.
As far as I learned, the corporate culture in the USA has some extremely strict rules that do not necessarily apply to people in Europe for example. That starts with the dress code, that is extremely rigid in the USA, and a little less rigid in Europe. I heard people in the USA can get fired if they do not dress accordingly, and in "accordingly" I mean wear a light pink shirt in a corporate setting (bank, law firm, etc.) instead of an "off white" one. That kind of strict.
Of course suits and non-sexy business outfits for ladies are a must here as well, but it`s not demanded that ladies wear skirts or such things. So as an escort you also have to dress according to these rules, otherwise you get unwanted attention, be it for being exotic , and no client wants to be the center of attention specially when with an escort .

What kind of behaviour are you referring to? I kind of personally like these small little differences, because it makes the world a more interesting place to be. It`s always an eye opener when you "question" behaviours or habits (lol):
"Why do they to THAT? Oh, it actually DOES make sense, aha... )) "
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yes, i infrequently smoke, and people can smell it on me immediately. and I can smell the smoke on others, but... I know a few providers that smoke, and I find it amazing that I can't tell (even when I have not smoked). I would like to know their secret?

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That seems to be true, but no matter, you should never smell like cigarettes. I wonder how smokers do that sometimes, as I can smell it a mile afar when a client is a smoker
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