"TS" Providers and ECCIE Gentlemen (and I'm using that term very loosely. Some are more like middle-school boys.)

[Annie Calhoun]

Originally Posted by rex111999

If he wont take it, I WILL!

If you want it, you got it, babe.

[Annie Calhoun]

Originally Posted by rex111999

If he wont take it, I WILL!

If you want it, you got it, babe



EDIT: Wow, I must really want to kiss you...I posted it twice!!

[gimme_that]

To the transgender woman here, when you get arrested.......are you placed in a cellb with other females, or the male population? I'm assumming it would be the male population.....but to protect your they would place you in a secluded cell I bet away from the general population.

Tthere is a transgender mixed martial arts fighter that's tryingto get legislation passed so she can compete with female atheletes. That motion was turned down, due to studys that disctated more of the physical athletic attributes of men were present in her body before the fight.

I'm not bringing this stuff up to upset the transgendered community. I'm not a homophobe....but I'm set in my ways. I'm probably more vocal on board about it than most providers would be.I can guarantee any provier that did a doubles with a transgender woman with a review attached to her profile I wouldn't see. That's not to be mean its just a preference.

I brought up the backpage ad example as a way to show how most TS provider will hide it up until the last photos in their ad. They will post something eye catching in the title....and bam......ur given a surprise. not so much here, but it does happen.

I think all men whether gay or not gay have some thoughts about a transgender or gay person. The replies weren't all bad in that review, basically the questions people were asking were if he was in fact a taker or a giver or both. Reading it doesn't make me gay, commenting on it doesn't either. In any case be happy those reviews are garnering attention.


There is one demographic of client that gays and transgendered folk often advertise for.......those folks who are curious. So telling those people not to respond or be objective may close off their curiousity. The comments are immaterial, but often times...other than one reviewer....the op is too chicken shit to back up his review or respond to the questions of other. Which gives the review less credibility....especially if they don't post again......which happens far too often.......

[rex111999]

Originally Posted by Annie Calhoun

If you want it, you got it, babe



EDIT: Wow, I must really want to kiss you...I posted it twice!!

Yay!

[Guest051920]

Great post, I agree with you.It is juvenile to post disparaging remarks if you don't have any interest bypass the review.I commend the reviewer for writing a review.It is rare and they have helped others.

[TSKrystiKakes]

to "gimmie that", I don't really understand the backpage part, on backpage there IS a TS section, you mean ts are postin the girls section? As far as "hiding it in pics", were aren't allowed to show nudity in photos there, as well as any other escort, the pics get removed, I know some get away with it sometimes, but only till its reported, I for one NEVER hide the fact that I'm TS, in fact I make it very well know, because I would NEVER want to be with a guy and him not WANT it!
And another point to make, being transgender has NOTHING to do with "gay/bi/straight" transgender is a term to describe our sexuality, not our sexual preference. Commonly over looked I know, just sayin...
As for the OP of a TS review "not" responding to comments, maybe he just doesn't "wanna feed the trolls"? Sometimes best to not respond to a rude comment, sometimes just fuels the fire...know what I mean?

[muny4huny]

It is not a male or female issue but a masculine or feminine issue. I am turned on by all things feminine which makes me heterosexual. While it seems some here wish to label people based on who they are with and not what they do, I think that is a complete cop out. The same guys calling someone who bangs a feminine person in the ass a queer, are the same ones who want a woman to stick an object in their ass that looks a lot like a penis. Prostate massage or whatever you wish to call it, it is being fucked in the ass. Those guys claim it does not make them gay because it is a woman with a fake dick doing it but a guy who bangs a feminine guy with long hair, smooth skin, and nice breasts in the ass is gay? I find no turn on by anything masculine, and 100% turn on by all things feminine. If a TS wants treated as a woman and looks and acts feminine then I can ignore a dangling piece of flesh a lot better than I can ignore a 10 inch rubber cock shoved into my ass or someones fingers buried to the knucles in my ass by anyone! If fucking a feminine asshole makes me gay and taking a rubber dick in my ass makes me straight, call me queer!

[rex111999]

I think Muny just endorsed the topic of the thread in a positive way. I think.

[causewaycommuter]

Muny is making a similar point I made. So it's fine for a guy to get a prostate massage while getting blown, and having a girl fuck your ass with a dildo/vibrator is an acceptable kink, but it's abhorrent for a guy to be with a TS? Yeah, that makes logical sense to me...

The fact that we participate in the hobby already puts us on the fringe of society, so its not like any of us have any room to cast stones. Just sayin.

[jl11]

[jl11]

Originally Posted by causewaycommuter

Muny is making a similar point I made. So it's fine for a guy to get a prostate massage while getting blown, and having a girl fuck your ass with a dildo/vibrator is an acceptable kink, but it's abhorrent for a guy to be with a TS? Yeah, that makes logical sense to me...

The fact that we participate in the hobby already puts us on the fringe of society, so its not like any of us have any room to cast stones. Just sayin.

Yeah getting your jollies off from attraction to a female that was born with female reproduction organs is arguably hetero when compared to sending plumber Pipewhack up the shitter of someone who was born with male sex organs and still has one hanging or at high noon. How many hetero guys actually enjoy prostate massages anyway? I don't, but have never tried one. If I did it would be with the female's finger if she was willing. But yes the hobby takes us to places that most women won't, so I'm sure it's not very common for everyday women to give prostate massages anyway.
It comes down to attraction. If a guy is attracted to a dildo/vibrator then he must have a thing for the cock.

[causewaycommuter]

Originally Posted by jl11

Now that is pretty damn funny!

[here4now]

I'm kinda curious how you can not like something you have never tried? I believe someone not too far above me just made that statement. You know the saying, "If you don't have something good to say, don't say anything at all." In the case of reviews such as these, that would be excellent advice to follow. I do find it interesting how some will jump in and have to express their masculinity and how they are not and never will be gay or bi when it has absolutely nothing to do with the review at all. What is the motivation to have to tell the world that information? You are not gay or bi, so? Does shouting out the fact that you are strictly hetero make you more attractive, feel better about yourself? One thing is for sure, and that is that it is obvious some people do not understand transsexuality and, rather than educate themselves about it, would rather make fun of it or profess to let others know how much it disgusts them. I guess those people are considered absolutely flawless to the rest of the world and they want to be sure that everyone knows it. Human sexuality is complex. I believe it was Kristi who mentioned black and white and how a gray world must confuse the hell out of some people (not those exact words) but you get the point. I guess the bottom line is, to me, live and let live. No one is forcing anyone to do anything they don't want to and to make snide and nasty remarks because someone doesn't fit into your idea of the perfect person is just sad. And FYI, their are people out there who don't believe you are perfect either.

[Arverni]

I base my opinions on science - not feelings. I will not "redefine" established scientific concepts simply because those established concepts hurt people's feelings.

Wiki defines "homosexuality" as follows ...

Homosexuality is romantic attraction, sexual attraction or sexual behavior between members of the same sex or gender. As an orientation, homosexuality refers to "an enduring pattern of or disposition to experience sexual, affectionate, or romantic attractions" primarily or exclusively to people of the same sex. "It also refers to an individual's sense of personal and social identity based on those attractions, behaviors expressing them, and membership in a community of others who share them.

The key words here are "between members of the same gender" and ... "Enduring Pattern".

Therefore while sex with a TS can be classified as a "homosexual experience", it's not homosexuality unless there is an "enduring pattern". Similarly, prostate massages and dildo play between males and females cannot be classified as a homosexual experience since the behavior takes place between members of the opposite sex.

A homosexual experience has NEVER been defined by an "oriface". Many Gay men do not engage in anal sex. "Who's on top" is irrelvent.

I do maintain that - scientifically - TS providers with exclusively male genitalia (functional or not ... There are many "straight" men who have lost "function") ... and / or who have the "X/Y" chromosome combination are ... MALE.

Which is why i still don't understand why gay providers are banned from ECCIE becauae TS providers meet the scientific definition of "homosexual".

EDIT: Having said all that - my ass is off limits to everyone - including female providers. Write that down. Leave my ass alone and I will leave yours alone!

[TSKrystiKakes]

Originally Posted by Arverni

I base my opinions on science - not feelings. I will not "redefine" established scientific concepts simply because those established concepts hurt people's feelings.

Wiki defines "homosexuality" as follows ...



The key words here are "between members of the same gender" and ... "Enduring Pattern".

Therefore while sex with a TS can be classified as a "homosexual experience", it's not homosexuality unless there is an "enduring pattern". Similarly, prostate massages and dildo play between males and females cannot be classified as a homosexual experience since the behavior takes place between members of the opposite sex.

A homosexual experience has NEVER been defined by an "oriface". Many Gay men do not engage in anal sex. "Who's on top" is irrelvent.

I do maintain that - scientifically - TS providers with exclusively male genitalia (functional or not ... There are many "straight" men who have lost "function") ... and / or who have the "X/Y" chromosome combination are ... MALE.

Which is why i still don't understand why gay providers are banned from ECCIE becauae TS providers meet the scientific definition of "homosexual".

EDIT: Having said all that - my ass is off limits to everyone - including female providers. Write that down. Leave my ass alone and I will leave yours alone!

1. Sex & Gender are to different things, MY sex is male, my gender is female

2. I was born XXY for where does that put me, in your views? ( Not that I am interested in your opinion)

3. Once again, this is your opinion and you are entitled to it, but others opinions greatly vary,

4. And as far as "wiki" lol @ that, anyone can write or define anything they want on there anyway they want to state it, for that reason it isn't even accepted as a valued reference in college

5. As far as to why TS are allowed here, is because there is GREAT levels of interest in terms of hobbyist having this particular fetish, just because u don't, doesn't mean the rest don't, ITS NOT GAY, ITS A FETISH.....