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Booth · 05-19-2011, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Wyldeman30

This is a very liberal city and this is a liberal site.

Liberal city, sure, but a liberal site? How so?

Yssup Rider · 05-19-2011, 08:57 PM

Maybe this a liberal site because we liberally chase tail without regard to race, color, creed or sexual orientation!

I Just Sharted · 05-20-2011, 02:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Yssup Rider

Maybe this a liberal site because we liberally chase tail without regard to race, color, creed or sexual orientation!

Would you fuck Ariel Sharon?

Booth · 05-20-2011, 08:54 AM

Can you really be certain that Perry would be a better friend to Israel? Doesn't a sizable portion of his support within the Tea Party favor a more isolationist foreign policy? He might not cut them off completely the way Ron Paul would but I'm not so sure he'd do them any favors.

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Obama just stamped his ticket back to Chicago, ain't gonna win without the Jewish vote and he can kiss the swing state Florida good bye for sure now too...He'll still carry NY and CA but his mideast policy is going to bury him in Ohio and PA. Perry would rip him apart.

Perry would never bow down to Muslim, Arab, call it whatever you want 'pressure', ever. I hope he does run, Obama is easy pickins now.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011...shment-praise/

The governor of TX would not be a pussy when it comes to standing up for democracies in the middle east, no wonder Obama sat in the Oval Office with his thumb up his ass when he could have backed Syrian, Libyan and Egyptian as well as Iranian uprisings much swifter...

Spacemtn · 05-20-2011, 09:15 AM

First, this thread is NOT going to go the direction of the last one. Keep it civil and intelligent. It is ok to disagree, but disrespect to one another will NOT be tolerated.

Second, those are some pretty shitty choices IMHO. I would rather pick a provider out of the Chronicle! My success rate might be better than either of these two and that's all I have to say!

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Booth · 05-20-2011, 09:33 AM

I'm sure we'll see many similar polls over the next year and a half. Rick Perry is the current flavor of the month and I selected him to be a part of this poll because I thought it would make for a more interesting discussion than Obama v. Romney.

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Originally Posted by Spacemtn

Second, those are some pretty shitty choices IMHO. I would rather pick a provider out of the Chronicle! My success rate might be better than either of these two and that's all I have to say!

KosherCowboy · 05-20-2011, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Booth

Can you really be certain that Perry would be a better friend to Israel? Doesn't a sizable portion of his support within the Tea Party favor a more isolationist foreign policy? He might not cut them off completely the way Ron Paul would but I'm not so sure he'd do them any favors.

Yes, I do.

Yet another broken promise by Obama, lies to gain votes back in 08 saying he would continue promises the US had made prior. 180 degree flip, see below, copied and pasted and factual.

Prime Minister Netanyahu expects to hear a reaffirmation from President Obama of U.S. commitments made to Israel in 2004. ... Among other things, those commitments relate to Israel not having to withdraw to the 1967 lines."

which Obama now advocates.

Yet another empty promise from Obama. To answer your question, Perry is a Republican, the Tea Party has factions within that differ, not all Republicans in the ' Tea Party' believe in or support every notion put forward just like some Dems disagree with other Dems and some Republicans disagree with other Republicans; Ron Paul being an excellent example..Ron Paul will also be a non factor.

Cutting foreign aid is not the issue. Supporting Palestinians who have used and still use terror to make political gains is what Obama has done. Two entirely different situations. Paul would not reward terror. Who the hell is Obama to tell Israel to shorten their east-west borders from almost 50 miles to under 10. And speaking of borders, I don't see Obama supporting ours, claims he is, AZ, NM and TX beg for more help. Obama needs to secure our own borders before he opens his trap and tells someone else to shrink their borders and cave in.

I'd take a governor who fights for his own state's borders and states rights in general over a socialist who wants to not only take from those who have and give to those who don't but tells another country what to do with their border ( a democracy as well) when he refuses to answer the cries and pleas from governors along the Mexican border in the very country that elected him.

Yeah, Perry 100% over that lying backstabbing flip flopper...

WyldemanATX · 05-20-2011, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Booth

Liberal city, sure, but a liberal site? How so?

Just ask Yssup he knows everything....

SpeedRacerXXX · 05-20-2011, 07:10 PM

First, I am a life-long Republican who voted for Obama because the ticket of McCain-Palin was a disaster waiting to happen. Plus, Bush had messed up this country so badly it was time to see what the other party could do.

So far B.O. has lowered the Social Security withholding rate, in affect giving us all a 2% raise after taxes. He continued the Bush tax package, despite Republicans holding up passage until the top 2% of wage earners were included. The economy has rebounded substantially since he took office. We are (hopefully) getting out of Iraq, a place we should never have been. Am I personally better off financially since he took office? Not only yes, but hell yes. What about you?

It's a long time until the next election and I am waiting to see (1) what Obama does between now and then, and (2) who the Republicans can put up to run against him. If they can't do better than McCain-Palin, it will be the second time I will vote Democratic.

austin_guy08 · 05-21-2011, 01:10 PM

Speedracer, if you voted for Obama, then how could you call yourself a lifelong Republican? The current administration is about as far from traditional conservative principles as you can get. I understand people's frustration with Bush, I had my own as well. However, Bush was NOT a conservative. The republican party has lost it's identity and has become nothing more than a bunch of nanny-state pushing scumbags. That being said, Perry over Obama any day!!

Travis Bickle · 05-21-2011, 01:15 PM

I went to a political rally once but was hassled by a secret service agent.

Yssup Rider · 05-21-2011, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by austin_guy08

Speedracer, if you voted for Obama, then how could you call yourself a lifelong Republican? The current administration is about as far from traditional conservative principles as you can get. I understand people's frustration with Bush, I had my own as well. However, Bush was NOT a conservative. The republican party has lost it's identity and has become nothing more than a bunch of nanny-state pushing scumbags. That being said, Perry over Obama any day!!

That might be a definition of TODAY'S conservative, but certainly not traditional REPUBLICAN values. In fact, traditional Republicans more resemble Blue Dogs than anything else...conservative Democrats.

Yssup Rider · 05-21-2011, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by austin_guy08

Speedracer, if you voted for Obama, then how could you call yourself a lifelong Republican? The current administration is about as far from traditional conservative principles as you can get. I understand people's frustration with Bush, I had my own as well. However, Bush was NOT a conservative. The republican party has lost it's identity and has become nothing more than a bunch of nanny-state pushing scumbags. That being said, Perry over Obama any day!!

That might be a definition of TODAY'S conservative, but certainly not traditional REPUBLICAN values. In fact, traditional Republicans of yesterday more resemble Blue Dogs to me than the Tea Party folks to whom Perry panders.

Back when Texas was controlled by "conservative Democrats" -- pro business, pro tort-reform Ds -- Perry was a puppy State Rep from Haskell and yes, he was a Democrat.

Billy_Saul · 05-21-2011, 08:02 PM

I would have to go third party on this one. I fail to understand how Perry can garner support from any Tea Party factions after presiding over the debacle in West Texas (Eldorado) when the government took away all those kids from their parents back in 08. By failing to intervene and stop it he is as accountable as anyone. There can be no more extreme interference in ones life then forcibly removing one's children and subjecting them to the living hell those kids must have went through. Ranks right up there with the democrats (Richards, Clinton, Reno) killing all those people in Waco (Mt. Carmel) in 93 as the worst two examples of government interference in the lives of Texans that I can recall.

Yssup Rider · 05-21-2011, 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Billy_Saul

I would have to go third party on this one. I fail to understand how Perry can garner support from any Tea Party factions after presiding over the debacle in West Texas (Eldorado) when the government took away all those kids from their parents back in 08. By failing to intervene and stop it he is as accountable as anyone. There can be no more extreme interference in ones life then forcibly removing one's children and subjecting them to the living hell those kids must have went through. Ranks right up there with the democrats (Richards, Clinton, Reno) killing all those people in Waco (Mt. Carmel) in 93.

Well I agree with you on that one, however I wasn't aware that the Tea Party cared (officially) about anything other than taxation and, at least in Texas, in Perry's ridiculous secessionist banter.

Didn't know that personal liberties were on their menu.

The Eldorado debacle was a mess indeed. However, it pales by comparison with some of the really stupid things Gov. Goodhair has done. He's probably got enough target material in his little sack of woe for anybody -- D or R -- to nail him nationally.

Let's not forget, he's Governor MOFO!