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Old 08-15-2019, 10:00 PM   #1
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Default The Golfer In Chief Is Also The Goatherd In Chief, Saving Him Tens Of Thousands!!!!!

Thought you’d “herd” everything?

Naaaaaaahhh!

(Knew it! HAHAHAHAHAHH!!!)


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The Golfer In Chief Is Also The Goatherd In Chief, Saving Him Tens Of Thousands

Trump owns eight goats and farms 113 acres of hay at his New Jersey golf resort, slashing his property tax bill by some $88,000 a year.



BEDMINSTER, N.J. ― As Donald Trump the president tees off Thursday morning for another round on his golf vacation, Donald Trump the goatherd continues to enjoy a tax break likely worth $88,000 annually from the “farm” exemption his tiny flock helps him keep.

According to his golf course’s latest filing with Bedminster Township to justify its “farmland assessment” tax break, Trump maintains eight goats and farms hay on 113.2 acres. Another 70.6 acres of adjacent woods are also set aside as agricultural, so that a total of 183.8 of the golf resort’s 514 acres are taxed at a much lower rate ― just over $6 an acre, rather than $462.

A HuffPost analysis of the taxes paid by the various tracts that make up Trump National Golf Club Bedminster shows that Trump is paying $88,067 less in property taxes in 2019 than he would have had those acres been taxed at the average rate of the land in the remainder of the golf resort.

“Looks like Trump is fleecing taxpayers yet again,” said Robert Weissman, president of the liberal watchdog group Public Citizen. “What’s now become very clear is that a very substantial portion of the Trump fortune is due to tax evasion, including his evasion of taxes on his daddy’s wealth.”

The New York Times reported extensively last year on the techniques Trump used to avoid paying taxes on the eight-figure fortune he inherited from his father, which has served as the basis of his wealth for the decades since.

One longtime Trump associate, who spoke on condition of anonymity, said Trump has long sought any advantage he could get. “I don’t think these properties are profit centers for him,” the associate said. “He’s always looking for breaks.”

It is unclear exactly what, if any, business purpose the goats serve beyond providing Trump a tax break. The Trump Organization, the president’s family business, did not respond to HuffPost’s questions regarding the goats’ purpose or market value. Nor did Rob Wagner, the golf course official who signed the farmland assessment application. The White House also did not respond to goat-related queries.

Trump’s financial disclosure statement for 2018 claims he earned $15,728,752 in income from the resort 45 miles west of Manhattan for “golf related activities.” There is no indication on the form what he made from goat- or hay-related revenues.

Allan Sampson, the “farm operator” listed on Trump’s farmland assessment application, said he plants and harvests the hay but knew nothing of the animals. “I don’t deal with the goats,” he said, declining to provide details about his financial arrangement with the golf resort.

The goats live in a fenced-in pen near the resort’s entrance, adjacent to some tennis courts and an equipment shed and across an access road from the second tee of one of the resort’s two courses.

The farm exemption is a relatively common tax break sought by businesses and landowners in exurban areas, and Trump, a self-described multibillionaire, has aggressively pursued lower tax bills at his properties all over the country. He is reportedly receiving a similar agricultural break for his golf resort in Colts Neck, New Jersey. And in municipalities stretching from Ossining, New York, to Chicago to Palm Beach, Florida, Trump has sued to lower his property taxes, claiming that his hotels and golf resorts are really only worth a fraction of what he says they are worth on his financial disclosure forms, according to ProPublica.

“No doubt Trump aims to milk this farm exemption for whatever he can,” Weissman said.

Trump’s tax returns could offer clues as to the exact value of the Bedminster tax break, as the entity that owns the property is ultimately managed by the trust Trump put under the control of his sons when he became president. The golf is run by “Lamington Farm Club LLC,” which, through a web of interconnected limited liability companies, is owned by the Donald J. Trump Revocable Trust, from which he personally continues to profit.

Trump promised that if he ran for president, he would proudly release his tax returns, because they would show what a profitable business he’d built. But he broke that pledge immediately after entering the race in 2015, and later became the first major-party nominee to refuse to release his returns since Watergate. He is now suing the state of New York over a new law that would release his state income tax return to some congressional committees that request it.

Trump’s current visit to Bedminster is his 19th golf vacation there since taking office. Although he promised during his presidential campaign that he would be too busy to play golf if he won the White House, let alone take any vacations, Thursday marks his 74th day at his golf course in Bedminster and his 206th day at a golf course he owns.
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Another self-anointed 5-star jerk-off!!
You and all on the left are 100% self-absorbed.
You're only a legend in your own mind.
You keep cumming up with these Trump bashing gems
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Old 08-16-2019, 12:07 AM   #3
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I think it's admirable Trump has been doing his part for the green new deal.

A little over 70 acres of woodland. Bigly glorious carbon offsets.

A little over 113 acres of farmland. Also bigly glorious carbon offsets as well as constantly renewing natural product.

And imagine that, goats, far more environmentally friendly than those damn farting cows.

They should be paying Trump for his environmentally conscious use of his vast properties.
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Old 08-16-2019, 07:29 AM   #4
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Come on YR,
If New Jersey doesn't like the way its property tax laws are written, NJ can change them. But as long as they're on the books, that's they way it is. Every state that I consult in has similar laws to protect small farmers, and clients use them.
Just proof that the Huff is full on bashing the Prez office. But good for them to exercise their 1st Amend rights. Maybe they can get the farm appraisal value exemption tossed in various states and put hundreds of thousands of small farmers out of business.
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Old 08-16-2019, 07:32 AM   #5
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Come on YR,
If New Jersey doesn't like the way its property tax laws are written, NJ can change them. But as long as they're on the books, that's they way it is. Every state that I consult in has similar laws to protect small farmers, and clients use them.
hmm.. it's okay to fleece (see what I did there?) the State, because you found a loophole? that is the Republican way.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UmmOJx_Hxto
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hmm.. it's okay to fleece (see what I did there?) the State, because you found a loophole? that is the Republican way.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UmmOJx_Hxto
If you find a loophole in the tax law do you take advantage of it and if so is it tax evasion???
This isn't a trick question CHANG
It's called the smart way...I wouldn't expect you to understand!!
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hmm.. it's okay to fleece (see what I did there?) the State, because you found a loophole? that is the Republican way.
CT,
Those laws have been on the books for decades.
Any commercial real estate person knows the deal.
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If you find a loophole in the tax law do you take advantage of it and if so is it tax evasion???
This isn't a trick question CHANG
It's called the smart way...I wouldn't expect you to understand!!
why don't you spell my name correctly? it would make you look grown up.

no, if I was a multi-Billionaire, I would play the laws straight, loopholes would bore me.
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no, if I was a multi-Billionaire, I would play the laws straight, loopholes would bore me.
Because he’s too ignorant to realize how wrong that is.

A shining example of the flaccid right.
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no, if I was a multi-Billionaire, I would play the laws straight, loopholes would bore me.
No, you would have an army of lawyers and accountants, just like the lefty "fair share" hero Warren Buffet. He has happily admitted to taking and using every deduction available throughout his entire career. Whether he likes them or not, he uses the laws exactly as Trump does. Any "smart" business man does.

There's a story about Buffet writing off his bicycle when was young because he had part time paper route. Talk about loopholes.

And at this point in his life he continues to use every tax loophole and credit that exists so he can keep his own money and choose how he is going to spend it rather than the government.

You would be doing the same. To say otherwise is simply a lie.

Just like another poster here was taking this high and mighty road about how they do business in order to denigrate Trump, until that narrative was actually shown to be BS as well.
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NJ tax laws are the same for all residents of NJ - DPST media criticizes Trump for taking legal tax exemptions available to the NJ pulic - and likely used by many DPST land-owners in NJ
Simple Hypocrisy - without russia collusion - looking for a new narrative.

How about opposing anti-Semitism - Oooops - that Racism is a SPST party platform plank!!!
LOL - got nothing
If Trump broke any tax laws - nadler and Schiff would already be waving it in their hot , sweaty little McCarthyite fists and bringing it to the house floor!!!
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Why are the goats locked up and Strzok and Lisa Page are running free
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NJ tax laws are the same for all residents of NJ - DPST media criticizes Trump for taking legal tax exemptions available to the NJ pulic - and likely used by many DPST land-owners in NJ
Simple Hypocrisy - without russia collusion - looking for a new narrative.

How about opposing anti-Semitism - Oooops - that Racism is a SPST party platform plank!!!
LOL - got nothing
If Trump broke any tax laws - nadler and Schiff would already be waving it in their hot , sweaty little McCarthyite fists and bringing it to the house floor!!!
Why are you attacking Jewish members of Congress day in and day out?

I thought you were a friend of the Jewish people oeb11. You certainly seem to be carrying the torch for my people. I’d say you’re just another misinformed Trump supporter mimicking his bullshit, but having dealt with people like you my whole life, I’d say you picked up your deep rooted anti-semitism at home.

Shame on you.
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no, I would not hire a team of Accountants and Lawyers, if I was Trump. frankly, from my perspective, once one reaches a certain level of wealth, where he and his children can not possibly spend that amount in both lifetimes, pinching dollars would be of no concern.

I get that it is for Donald, given his hiring of Illegals, to dampen wages and benefits. and putting Ivanka into his Cabinet (I assume he pays her less than a qualified person would receive).
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no, if I was a multi-Billionaire, I would play the laws straight, loopholes would bore me.
That is why you're not a Billionaire...you don't know shit about loopholes.
You try and equate loopholes as not playing straight...WTF is that??

I forget the SJW's and the purity of the left
What was it Bitten said about truth and facts
Thank you for nothing CT...does that make you "feel" better??
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