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Old 07-20-2014, 05:03 PM   #1
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Default A Compelling Explanation Why Blood Is On Obama's Hands

From http://www.realclearpolitics.com/art...er_123383.html

Illegal immigration exploded shortly after President Barack Obama issued an executive order halting some deportations.

In fiscal years 2000 through 2011, fewer than 4,000 “unaccompanied alien children” from El Salvador, Guatemala and Honduras were apprehended at the border each year. That jumped to 10,146 in FY 2012, doubled to 20,805 in FY 2013 and has doubled again this year.

The UACs — some of whom may be wearing tennis shoes adorned with Mr. Obama’s picture, according to DMLDaily.com — come because they think they’ve been invited. President Obama “is helping us,” a little boy told a reporter for the Fox News affiliate in Detroit. “All Guatemalans can come to the United States and stay.”

The little boy is mostly right. Of 47,397 UACs apprehended at the border between 2009 and 2013, just 3,525 (7.4 percent) have been ordered to leave the country.

The government spends $252 per child per day to care for the 52,193 UACs apprehended from Oct. 1 through the middle of June, a Texas congressman told Newsradio WOAI in San Antonio. Not many Americans can spend that much on their children.

The president asked Congress for $1.8 billion “to provide appropriate care for unaccompanied children.” After checking air fares on several websites, Sen. Ron Johnson, R-Wis., estimated it would cost as much as $30 million to fly them home.

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My assumption is most of those 3,525 that have been ordered to leave the US have not. Therefore nobody is there to tell those in Central America not to waste their money. Everyone who "didn't make it" because of gangs, disease, exhaustion, etc has President Obama in some way to blame.
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Old 07-20-2014, 05:38 PM   #2
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Jesus...you and LL ignore the 2008 law Bush signed.
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Old 07-20-2014, 06:00 PM   #3
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fuck blame him for putin shooting down a plane too fuck give me a break kick all of them out close the fucking door
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Old 07-20-2014, 06:32 PM   #4
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Everyone who "didn't make it" because of gangs, disease, exhaustion, etc has President Obama in some way to blame.
I've got a great idea, let's go on record as blaming Obama for the bombing of Pearl Harbor, as well.

Blaming Obama for Pearl Harbor would be an absolute natural, what with him being born in Hawaii 2 decades after the fact. What's 20 years or so among friendly conspiracy theorists anyway?

Oops! It just dawned on me that Obama was actually born in Kenya. How in the hell could I forget?

On second thought, let's set aside the Pearl Harbor idea for fine tuning and instead blame Obama for the sinking of the Lusitania.

Meanwhile, this will give us a few weeks to work on the blame Obama for the bombing of Pearl Harbor.

I'll get back to you on that one in a few!
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Old 07-20-2014, 06:50 PM   #5
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When you have no response to the OP go on a tangent about something else. Attention! Strawman alert! Or maybe it is enough to be called a Red Herring? How about a Straw Herring?

In any event, you have not answered because it is true. In the movie Hail! the president (supposed to be Richard Nixon) had a tank of water on his desk in the Oval Office. Hanging above the tank was a piece of cheese from a string. A little wooden plank was placed on the side of the tank. A hungry mouse went out on the plank and reached for the cheese that was just out of reach. The mouse would fall into the tank and drown. This is how the left characterized things like this in 1973. It was considered perverse and twisted since it was Nixon. Now Obama has put the cheese out there and people (children) are dying to trying to get it. If you used 1970s sensibilities then you have to admit that Obama is perverted and twisted and maybe a murderer since he knows what will happen.
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This is the result of the combining of naïveté and stupidity.
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Old 07-20-2014, 10:47 PM   #7
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Jesus...you and LL ignore the 2008 law Bush signed.
No, you didn't read the link, did you? Or the fact that the UAC numbers started doubling after the promised amnesty? Or is your reading comprehension problem acting up again?
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I've got a great idea, let's go on record as blaming Obama for the bombing of Pearl Harbor, as well...
Carrying on Buck Private Bigkotex!
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Old 07-21-2014, 07:07 AM   #9
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Jesus...you and LL ignore the 2008 law Bush signed.
Your ignorance surpasses your stupidity, which is overwhelming.

You don't even read the numbers ... from 2000 to 2011 (3 years passed the 2008 law) ONLY 4,000 came to the U.S. ....

Your hero, Obaminable, started opening his mouth in 2009-2011 .... and since then we have over 50,000 with more on the way to cross over by years end.

Not to mention the duffus in the White House obsessively uses his "pen" to neutralize laws with which he disagrees or wants suspended.... he's encouraging the exodus.

Here he is seeking counsel on how to handle the crisis:
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No, you didn't read the link, did you? Or the fact that the UAC numbers started doubling after the promised amnesty? Or is your reading comprehension problem acting up again?
Where did it state that Obama promised amnesty? And when the fuck did you start caring about anyone with a different language than yours?



A law passed in the waning days of the Bush administration prevents the president from sending the UACs back, the White House says.
But the Wilberforce Act — designed to protect children from “severe” forms of child trafficking, such as being brought here to be prostitutes — applies to no more than a handful of the children flooding across the border.
And the law “already provides the administration with flexibility to accelerate the judicial process in times of crisis,” Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif., who sponsored it in the Senate, told The New York Times.


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its incomprehensible that anyone could not think that Obama's rhetoric and policies have not created this influx

for years since obama became president the border patrol union and individual members have repeatedly warned us of his scofflawness
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its incomprehensible that anyone could not think that Obama's rhetoric and policies have not created this influx

for years since obama became president the border patrol union and individual members have repeatedly warned us of his scofflawness
You dumb shit....Do you do any research before posting?

''other nearby countries are also seeing a rapid increase in the number of Central Americans seeking asylum.'

Is Obama encouraging children to seek asylum in other countries too?


http://www.vox.com/2014/6/16/5813406...mmigrants-daca
In fiscal year 2014, for the first time ever, the majority of unaccompanied children are coming from Central American countries. In fact, fewer children are coming from Mexico than from Guatemala, Honduras, or El Salvador.
Gang violence in Central America, especially in Honduras and El Salvador, is driving a substantial exodus to other countries throughout the region. In particular, teenagers in these countries are being recruited to join gangs; if they refuse, the gang will often retaliate against them and their families.
While the United States is receiving many of the children and families fleeing Central America, other nearby countries are also seeing a rapid increase in the number of Central Americans seeking asylum. Even Nicaragua, which is one of the poorest countries on earth, is receiving asylum seekers from Central America.
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Old 07-21-2014, 08:25 AM   #13
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A law passed in the waning days of the Bush administration prevents the president from sending the UACs back, the White House says.
But the Wilberforce Act — designed to protect children from “severe” forms of child trafficking, such as being brought here to be prostitutes — applies to no more than a handful of the children flooding across the border.
And the law “already provides the administration with flexibility to accelerate the judicial process in times of crisis,” Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif., who sponsored it in the Senate, told The New York Times.


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I think we can all agree that is reasonable, if enforced on that basis.
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You dumb shit....Do you do any research before posting?

''other nearby countries are also seeing a rapid increase in the number of Central Americans seeking asylum.'

Is Obama encouraging children to seek asylum in other countries too?


http://www.vox.com/2014/6/16/5813406...mmigrants-daca
In fiscal year 2014, for the first time ever, the majority of unaccompanied children are coming from Central American countries. In fact, fewer children are coming from Mexico than from Guatemala, Honduras, or El Salvador.
Gang violence in Central America, especially in Honduras and El Salvador, is driving a substantial exodus to other countries throughout the region. In particular, teenagers in these countries are being recruited to join gangs; if they refuse, the gang will often retaliate against them and their families.
While the United States is receiving many of the children and families fleeing Central America, other nearby countries are also seeing a rapid increase in the number of Central Americans seeking asylum. Even Nicaragua, which is one of the poorest countries on earth, is receiving asylum seekers from Central America.
So it doesn't have anything to do with Bush ...

.. it has to do with the gang violence increase ......

Did the Bush law cause them to seek asylum in "other countries"?

And you call others "dumbshit"? You are the laughing stock of the dumbshits!

Are they seeking asylum in Mexico? Is Mexico giving them "asylum"?
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Meanwhile, this will give us a few weeks to work on the blame Obama for the bombing of Pearl Harbor.

I'll get back to you on that one in a few!
After you find his birth certificate to verify whether he was born yet or where?

Speaking of Hawaii.

Wait! Is that why he's all choked up about these children coming here? And staying!
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