Why spend $400-$900+ on a single provider for mediocre covered services?

[Ballistixz]

I legitimately want to know. I can understand if maybe the girl is out of town and she hits all the fetish buttons for you but the supply and demand to secure a spot may be high. I get that. But what I DONT get is paying those prices for providers you see local every single day for the absolute bare bones of services, because by doing that you encourage them to raise prices more for no reason.

I'm not going to name names obviously, but just so there is no confusion I'll name a hypothetical example:

Girl A starts by offering $250 for a 1 hour massage and HJ only. The total for that is already asinine because any AMP will give equal or better service for just $100 or full blown FS for $200 (these are TOTAL for massage and ending btw). The FS+massage being cheaper than what girl A is asking for and only getting a HJ for a ending!!! But wait, it gets worse. Because people are actually scheduling her she feels the need to increase the total to $350 while keeping the previous service offered EXACTLY THE SAME!

So again I want to ask, why do this to yourself? Obviously this is not directed at all providers or mongers. But 350 for a HJ and basic massage is a really bad deal, and that is just ONE example of many. Some of you smarter mongers may even know who I'm talking about without me mentioning a name.

[Kimberly Kisses]

It puzzles you the same way it puzzles some of us why any man would be worried about what another man chooses to spend his money on. I understand if she's a rip off or butt ugly, but from what the guys say, most massage girls are better looking than most providers, so maybe they don't want full service for the risk factor.

If she's getting her rate and the guys are happy paying it, why does it matter to anyone else? I'm pretty sure they know they can get way more for less, no secret.

That would be like me asking why y'all spending double when I'm only X. It's hurting someone's business inadvertently when you do that, and this is the only place I have seen that. It's just rude to go comment on another person's experience that you'd never pay that.

It's not your review. It's like some of you think it's your job to make sure no guy sees someone you wouldn't see based on price. Not trying to be a jerk, just saying.

[Ballistixz]

Originally Posted by Kimberly Kisses

It puzzles you the same way it puzzles some of us why any man would be worried about what another man chooses to spend his money on. I understand if she's a rip off or butt ugly, but from what the guys say, most massage girls are better looking than most providers, so maybe they don't want full service for the risk factor.

If she's getting her rate and the guys are happy paying it, why does it matter to anyone else? I'm pretty sure they know they can get way more for less, no secret.

That would be like me asking why y'all spending double when I'm only X. It's hurting someone's business inadvertently when you do that, and this is the only place I have seen that. It's just rude to go comment on another person's experience that you'd never pay that.

It's not your review. It's like some of you think it's your job to make sure no guy sees someone you wouldn't see based on price. Not trying to be a jerk, just saying.

It matters because at the end of the day it creates a monopoly for providers. If someone spends alot on a provider then it gets other providers who use to have very reasonable prices talking. "Girl, why do you charge these men such cheap prices!? These guys give me $600, $200-$300 is too low!"

I'm not saying this to be mean or anything, I'm saying this because I've experienced it myself multiple times with independent escorts in particular. What those other guys spend effect all of us because we are all going for the exact same service, so we eat all those extra costs. You can not say it doesn't effect me when the norm for me was 250-300 but out of the blue she charges almost 400+ just because other guys gave her more for no other reason except to play teachers pet.

There is one independent provider I seen recently who basically spilled the beans to me (she is a very cool and sweet woman btw, very honest) she told me she started off with 300 for everything. Then she said later she started doing 800 for everything. I commented "wow, you must be really popular!" And she said bluntly "no, people just offered me that price on their own, so it became the norm. I have no reason to go back because these guys go as far as buying this hotel for me + the service, so I don't even need to be popular". Why go to these extremes guys?!

This is about guys knowing their own worth and to stop overpaying when it's not necessary to do so, and maybe if they do then prices go back to being reasonable.

[Joe Blows]

People have wildly different budgets and perceptions of value. Best not to worry about things you can’t control. What girls charge and what guys are willing to pay is one of those things. If a girl raises her rates and you are no longer comfortable paying it, so be it. Next.

[Ballistixz]

Originally Posted by Joe Blows

People have wildly different budgets and perceptions of value. Best not to worry about things you can’t control. What girls charge and what guys are willing to pay is one of those things. If a girl raises her rates and you are no longer comfortable paying it, so be it. Next.

I understand that and In no way am I trying to control it. I just want to understand the logic. Because despite the budget difference, I think we can all agree that someone who can afford $600 can afford $300 correct? If value is there then I 100% understand. You pay more you get more. But that is not what I'm talking about.

What I'm talking about is buying 1 red apple for $1 vs buying another red apple that is exactly the same and comes from the same tree for $30, except the main difference being that the $30 is not even as sweet or as juicy as the $1 apple. I just truly don't get it.

And maybe you are right, it's best I don't even try to understand it because there are always girls that are reasonable with prices, but it's still perplexing and still irritating when you have a regular provider increasing her prices as a direct result of these guys.

[myren1900]

I don’t see the problem. There are super hot providers out there that ask for $1,000 per hour and gets it. And yes, they look like super models and hopefully give top quality services. I have seen a few escorts asking close to those donations and they were definitely worth it. The incall were 4 star hotels, they are perfectly clean, perfect lingerie,
Provided snacks like cheese, crackers, fruit and wine. Not to mention a true GFE experience.

You don’t get that with an STG girl in a Red Roof Inn.

[Art Lover]

High end hobbyist and high end professional providers don’t “hand out” on Eccie. Might sound snobby but guys who can drop big bucks without a blink don’t usually hangout with those tirelessly searching for $200 FS gfe.

[myren1900]

Art Lover,

I agree that there are not many reviews on Eccie of $1,000/hr providers although there are several of girls charging $500 or above. I have reviewed several providers some year ago before Covid asking the standard rate of $300/hr. Many of those girls are now asking $500 or more and I have still reviewed them.
My preferred 3 hours dinner outcall appointments do get kinda pricey I will admit 😐,
but since the girls are model material girls giving incredible great service it is actually a bargain.

I would never waste my time on STG girls !!!

[Ballistixz]

Originally Posted by myren1900

I don’t see the problem. There are super hot providers out there that ask for $1,000 per hour and gets it. And yes, they look like super models and hopefully give top quality services. I have seen a few escorts asking close to those donations and they were definitely worth it. The incall were 4 star hotels, they are perfectly clean, perfect lingerie,
Provided snacks like cheese, crackers, fruit and wine. Not to mention a true GFE experience.

You don’t get that with an STG girl in a Red Roof Inn.

Being hot is really a eye of the beholder thing. I've also been given food and drinks just from Amp girls. Maybe not wine, but also certainly more than water. So my main point is the service you get. $1000 is on another planet. Even if I was as rich as Elon I would never drop that amount on ONE girl. I'd rather go to Phillipines or Cambodia and have 5 girls servicing my every beckon whim for that price. More value for your buck is my motto basically.

[Kimberly Kisses]

Originally Posted by Ballistixz

Being hot is really a eye of the beholder thing. I've also been given food and drinks just from Amp girls. Maybe not wine, but also certainly more than water. So my main point is the service you get. $1000 is on another planet. Even if I was as rich as Elon I would never drop that amount on ONE girl. I'd rather go to Phillipines or Cambodia and have 5 girls servicing my every beckon whim for that price. More value for your buck is my motto basically.

You kinda blew it with the whole monopoly comment. The girl you saw was telling the truth about how rates work. If we all got together and decided no one would take less than 500, you'd all have to pay or go without. That's never going to happen, so don't fret LMAO ��.

I started off as a GFE provider in a nice incall with all the bells and whistles, it just wasn't worth the extra time and expense, but I have met several high end, low volume escorts who were not model material, yet they provided a service better than the Bellagio when it came to what they offered in terms of upscale perks.

If a provider is high volume, doesn't matter how hot she thinks she is. Many seriously believe what old men say lol.

Guys outside of review boards are into more of a sugar baby experience so if they see hundreds of reviews, they will pay double for someone without that. Only guys in Eccie rave about a chick who sees multiple guys a week, even a day.

If you are speaking only in terms of bcd then go, sure, definitely see how paying exuberant amount is kinda crazy but for multi hour dinner dates, that's reasonable.

[Kimberly Kisses]

Originally Posted by Art Lover

High end hobbyist and high end professional providers don’t “hand out” on Eccie. Might sound snobby but guys who can drop big bucks without a blink don’t usually hangout with those tirelessly searching for $200 FS gfe.

Exactly! In 4+ years, I've seen maybe 10 total guys from these boards. What's even more hilarious is the old CL crew is on STG now because they don't know about Eccie, Ter, Etc so they actually aren't the cheap ones. Being 8 out of 10 women (Staff edit) STG makes those of us at least halfway decent appear to be 10s hahaha.

I can't really expect to make anything from guys who want GFE or FS when I don't offer that, so I advertise where my market is. I'm still on P411, but rarely do I see anyone who hasn't done research because they assume they're getting the works for 150. Not happening.

But Yes, high end guys aren't here. They aren't in SA either since cheap hobbyists flooded it. Ironic.

[Ballistixz]

Originally Posted by Kimberly Kisses

You kinda blew it with the whole monopoly comment. The girl you saw was telling the truth about how rates work. If we all got together and decided no one would take less than 500, you'd all have to pay or go without. That's never going to happen, so don't fret LMAO ��.

I started off as a GFE provider in a nice incall with all the bells and whistles, it just wasn't worth the extra time and expense, but I have met several high end, low volume escorts who were not model material, yet they provided a service better than the Bellagio when it came to what they offered in terms of upscale perks.

If a provider is high volume, doesn't matter how hot she thinks she is. Many seriously believe what old men say lol.

Guys outside of review boards are into more of a sugar baby experience so if they see hundreds of reviews, they will pay double for someone without that. Only guys in Eccie rave about a chick who sees multiple guys a week, even a day.

If you are speaking only in terms of bcd then go, sure, definitely see how paying exuberant amount is kinda crazy but for multi hour dinner dates, that's reasonable.

Monopoly was hyperbolic, but it doesn't change the fact that a provider can change the price at will regardless of if the customer thinks it's fair or not.

I get it though, of course it's well in your right to do so. But when you are making $300 tax free dollars an hour and double it because of a few clients who high roll, I simply don't think it's cool to also throw your old customers under a bus and say "double up or get out". Just IMHO it doesn't seem fair or professional.

[Kimberly Kisses]

Originally Posted by Ballistixz

Monopoly was hyperbolic, but it doesn't change the fact that a provider can change the price at will regardless of if the customer thinks it's fair or not.

I get it though, of course it's well in your right to do so. But when you are making $300 tax free dollars an hour and double it because of a few clients who high roll, I simply don't think it's cool to also throw your old customers under a bus and say "double up or get out". Just IMHO it doesn't seem fair or professional.

Ohh, now I understand. You're not just speaking in terms of price itself, but women who go up on regular clients who met them before the increase. I'm in agreement with you there. I've never done that. I'm just starting to be able to travel, so my touring rates are more, but locally they stay the same.

[Sinclar]

I think it comes down to the old supply and demand adage. If a person can set a price for a service and get why wouldn’t they.

It is really up to those who wish to purchase that service. If they like that person then maybe stay with that person for comfortability.

Personally, if all I want is a massage and a happy ending an AMP is the best bet. If I want GFE then that is more of a total experience than a list of acronyms. End result may be the same but it’s totally different.

Like the difference between watching a pond hockey game and going to see a NHL game.

[KellyKiss]

Some are worth it some are worth more, I think it’s just a matter of doing your research