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Old 03-24-2012, 10:54 PM   #1
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Default A Working Woman's World: Brief Survey Part 1

1) Do you see being a professional escort or alternative adult entertainer to be generally demeaning/harmful/degrading or empowering for women?


How can it be demeaning?


Empowering?


Are you ashamed/proud of your work, and would you like to be able to share with the world (family, relatives, friends, general public) tell them what you do...receive support, encouragement


2) How can it lead to certain psychological disorders - body dysmorphic disorder (obsession with appearance, plastic surgery) eating disorders, depression, severe personality changes, substance abuse...etc

(and also how can the above be prevented?)

or

How can it lead to raised levels of self-esteem, promote self confidence, provide healthy and creative outlet of expressing sexuality, etc
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Old 03-25-2012, 06:13 AM   #2
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When is your paper due?
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Old 03-25-2012, 09:35 AM   #3
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I suppose it really is all just based on your particular point of view.

I used to think that providing was something that some girls did for a short season in their lives purely for economic reasons.

However, I remember a very gorgeous blond provider confiding me in once after a session with a tinge of sadness that what she did was "degrading" which frankly, was shocking for me to hear.

. . . Personally, I saw nothing degrading in it, but I can understand how certain people can have that perspective although I thought it would tend to be more along the lines of religious conservatives, not providers themselves!

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Old 03-25-2012, 12:52 PM   #4
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You read my mind. The real world isn't so black and white about labels or causes of behavior. Must be a sociology class or maybe psychology.
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Old 03-25-2012, 01:17 PM   #5
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I am not ashamed of being a provider, but I don't see it as something I'd want to go tell the world. I'm a very private person, and always have been. What I do for my money is my business whether it's scrubbing toilets, cleaning houses, cooking, web design - doesn't matter.

I used to be a stock photographer and always felt like I was selling my soul doing it. I feel privileged to not be in a job where I sell my soul.

As far as your second question, I would think those things are more likely if someone doesn't enjoy their job. I am a big fan of clean living, I walk several miles a day and eat well. If anything, my job has made me feel BETTER about my body, not worse. My job is also motivation to stay in good shape and maintain my appearance. I get a lot of unsought positive reinforcement about my body from clients, which I appreciate as it keeps me motivated to stay looking good
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I thinks gals who are truly excellent and highly skilled at being an escort and being able to arouse and satisfy clients would and should find the job very rewarding. The key is not to just do it but do it in an excellent way like any other job so you feel you are the best. That means looking the part, being physically fit and being good at erotic psychology as well as having super BCD skills etc etc. There is a lot to being the best at anything. Most providers dont put in that kind of effort unfortunately. I agree fully with Missy in her response.
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Old 03-25-2012, 02:00 PM   #7
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^^+1

I am not ashamed of being a provider, but I don't see it as something I'd want to go tell the world. I'm a very private person, and always have been. What I do for my money is my business whether it's scrubbing toilets, cleaning houses, cooking, web design - doesn't matter.

I used to be a stock photographer and always felt like I was selling my soul doing it. I feel privileged to not be in a job where I sell my soul.

As far as your second question, I would think those things are more likely if someone doesn't enjoy their job. I am a big fan of clean living, I walk several miles a day and eat well. If anything, my job has made me feel BETTER about my body, not worse. My job is also motivation to stay in good shape and maintain my appearance. I get a lot of unsought positive reinforcement about my body from clients, which I appreciate as it keeps me motivated to stay looking good
VERY good! I really enjoy your input in the forums here.

I LOVE being a provider,It fits almost every side of my life from a early teen I suppose,Like examples being:
*Love fitness
*travel
*very good job resume
*experience in adult fields(Many)
*talk and meet and have fun,enjoy new challenges
*LOVE fetish,sexy,erotic,freaky and even casual varieties and pleasing others
*Enjoy the privacy,yet very open minded
*met some of the coolest females and males in hobby world
*opened new doors for a few side jobs/career paths
*Thankful for the gifts of friendship and the material ones as well
*Excitement!
*and I am a SUPA clean freak,I collect body and skin care products,pamper myself daily with showers,hair and pedis up keep and I love love love either my fitness side (Yoga comfy clothes)...and my other side heels and classy dress up...stripper gear and erotic dancing,and casual cute and sexy for my other requests...

I never understood why some people in provider fields,dancing,modeling etc. either don't try to keep up or let themselves go...maybe either burned out,only want money or other reasons...Nobody is perfect at all and I am far from that but I will die trying to keep myself positive,motivated and outside up keep and cleanliness as well...

Missy....your words are well put together,I wish I could sum things up that well
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Exotic Beauty, you sound and look totally delicioussss as well. You should be very proud
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VERY good! I really enjoy your input in the forums here.

I LOVE being a provider,It fits almost every side of my life from a early teen I suppose,Like examples being:
*Love fitness
*travel
*very good job resume
*experience in adult fields(Many)
*talk and meet and have fun,enjoy new challenges
*LOVE fetish,sexy,erotic,freaky and even casual varieties and pleasing others
*Enjoy the privacy,yet very open minded
*met some of the coolest females and males in hobby world
*opened new doors for a few side jobs/career paths
*Thankful for the gifts of friendship and the material ones as well
*Excitement!
*and I am a SUPA clean freak,I collect body and skin care products,pamper myself daily with showers,hair and pedis up keep and I love love love either my fitness side (Yoga comfy clothes)...and my other side heels and classy dress up...stripper gear and erotic dancing,and casual cute and sexy for my other requests...

I never understood why some people in provider fields,dancing,modeling etc. either don't try to keep up or let themselves go...maybe either burned out,only want money or other reasons...Nobody is perfect at all and I am far from that but I will die trying to keep myself positive,motivated and outside up keep and cleanliness as well...

Missy....your words are well put together,I wish I could sum things up that well

Amen EB!



That all being said this job is NOT for everyone. You have to be smart about it, and not become a victim of it. If you're feeling burned out it's important like any other job to take a break and re-assess yourself and regroup your mind, body and soul. Most important to me is having saved my money and invested it, so I have something to show for the years of work, and to always have a healthy positive attitude about it. It CAN definitely affect your civvie life if you're not careful. But I would never trade it in for anything. Being an escort has been truly rewarding for me in more than just finances...but in many other ways. I have met wonderful people, men and women, through my work.
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Old 03-25-2012, 11:20 PM   #10
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When is your paper due?

Lol. Its a lifelong study


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I suppose it really is all just based on your particular point of view.

I used to think that providing was something that some girls did for a short season in their lives purely for economic reasons.

However, I remember a very gorgeous blond provider confiding me in once after a session with a tinge of sadness that what she did was "degrading" which frankly, was shocking for me to hear.

. . . Personally, I saw nothing degrading in it, but I can understand how certain people can have that perspective although I thought it would tend to be more along the lines of religious conservatives, not providers themselves!

I know some people who pray right before a session or some who must visit their church the next day to purge their sins...or whatever religious ppl do lol

Then if I mention I enjoy visiting catholic services as well, I get a shocked response

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You read my mind. The real world isn't so black and white about labels or causes of behavior. Must be a sociology class or maybe psychology.

I know my questions came off as somewhat clinical, I'm not pursuing a ph.d formally, but doing psychological research is just my personal passion


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^^+1

I am not ashamed of being a provider, but I don't see it as something I'd want to go tell the world. I'm a very private person, and always have been.

I'm proud of it myself, and am an intensely private person, but I wouldn't mind doing public interviews, and would prefer to be open and honest with ppl if they care to know of all my hobbies, work.... to move the cause forward in a positive light...

I hate hiding stuff

I used to be a stock photographer and always felt like I was selling my soul doing it. I feel privileged to not be in a job where I sell my soul.

I know, I feel blessed everyday to be doing something I naturally love...and being paid for it Wow. Lucky lucky me

But you create your own luck


As far as your second question, I would think those things are more likely if someone doesn't enjoy their job. I am a big fan of clean living, I walk several miles a day and eat well. If anything, my job has made me feel BETTER about my body, not worse. My job is also motivation to stay in good shape and maintain my appearance. I get a lot of unsought positive reinforcement about my body from clients, which I appreciate as it keeps me motivated to stay looking good

Good point. Your personal And professional life should be healthy and balanced = mind, body, spirit. Very important



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I thinks gals who are truly excellent and highly skilled at being an escort and being able to arouse and satisfy clients would and should find the job very rewarding. The key is not to just do it but do it in an excellent way like any other job so you feel you are the best. That means looking the part, being physically fit and being good at erotic psychology as well as having super BCD skills etc etc. There is a lot to being the best at anything. Most providers dont put in that kind of effort unfortunately. I agree fully with Missy in her response.
Yep, it can be immensely rewarding career/lifestyle

And understanding intimate human psychology makes a huge difference


My sessions are often very therapeutic (for both ppl), I feel like I'm doing a better job of connecting with people, than I would be as a traditional psychologist.

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Amen EB!

Most important to me is having saved my money and invested it, so I have something to show for the years of work, and to always have a healthy positive attitude about it. It CAN definitely affect your civvie life if you're not careful. But I would never trade it in for anything. Being an escort has been truly rewarding for me in more than just finances...but in many other ways. I have met wonderful people, men and women, through my work.

Thats great. Escorts should have a class in financial intelligence before starting off. I wish I had been given the wisdom earlier...
Its about how much you save/invest, not about how much you make
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Old 03-26-2012, 06:12 AM   #11
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Some of us pray that our performance improves or is at least adequate. Some of us pray we'll just get hard & pop.
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Ok, since its not some bs paper for a grade here's my opinion.
It can be all of the things you listed. People react differently to everything. I have friends that are happy when they get drunk and I have friends that turn into complete assholes when they get drunk. We all share the same bottle of liquor but we all get different results. Its the same with everything else in life. Some ladies don't like being providers and they may be able to push their way through each session but it will eventually be too much and they will either quit or abuse drugs or become mentally twisted etc. I think for most its just a job and they have the mental or spiritual toughness to do it without all the crazy stuff that affects the ladies that shouldn't do this.
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Zabina you look hot ...thinking of becoming an escort....you would be welcome.
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Old 03-26-2012, 01:43 PM   #15
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1) Do you see being a professional escort or alternative adult entertainer to be generally demeaning/harmful/degrading or empowering for women?
How can it be demeaning?
Empowering?


Neither...both. The most demeaning job I have ever had was waiting tables. It isn't about the job, it is about the person. When I was all dumb and out of control in my early 20s I would never have been able to do this. It would have been harmful, only because I wasn't centered within myself. And that is going to be different, of course, for everyone. I'm sure there are some working women with a much better handle on the business that are quite young. They just got their shit together sooner.


Are you ashamed/proud of your work, and would you like to be able to share with the world (family, relatives, friends, general public) tell them what you do...receive support, encouragement

It would be nice if it wasn't a big deal. I don't like lying to my parents but they would be really upset and hurt and scared for me. But I'm not on a crusade about it either.


2) How can it lead to certain psychological disorders - body dysmorphic disorder (obsession with appearance, plastic surgery) eating disorders, depression, severe personality changes, substance abuse...etc

Like anything can lead to those things. You prevent it the same way you prevent it when it comes from abuse or neglect or just sheer stupidity. Which is not at all.

How can it lead to raised levels of self-esteem, promote self confidence, provide healthy and creative outlet of expressing sexuality, etc

If you enjoy your job, any job, it makes all of that happen. IF work is important to you. I just don't see this industry as a demon or a savior. While I have frequently made the point that this job cannot be compared to a lawyer or a waitress in the customer service aspects of it, a work ethic is a work ethic is a work ethic. Some people will benefit from this industry and some people will not. I would make a terrible doctor and I would hate it mightily, that doesn't mean the medical profession is to blame when I lose it.
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