Odumbo's CIA Director John Brennan Voted for the Communist Party of the USA

[lustylad]

Originally Posted by papadee

Hilarious. The largest communist nation in the world, China, doesn't pledge fealty to Russia, and you say "notwithstanding". Also Albania wasn't under Russia's influence.

Gus Hall attended international commie confabs held in Moscow, not in Beijing. To continue your analogy, maybe you should view Mao as the Martin Luther of communism. Mao split with the Kremlin due to doctrinal differences (and border disputes). Despite this ideological split, most of the communist world stayed faithful to the Kremlin. Just as most of the Catholic Church continued to follow the Pope after Luther rebelled against the corrupt sale of indulgences and other practices.

(Btw - who the fuck cares about Albania? Yugoslavia as co-founder of the Non-Aligned movement is a better example for anyone making your argument.)

[I B Hankering]

Originally Posted by papadee

Marx talked about overthrowing social conditions, not govts., and that the civil war between the proles & bourgeoisie already existed, and the overthrow of the bourgeoisie needed to take place. That can be done after peaceful elections (see South Africa). And to a lesser extent, Zimbabwe. After the war Mugabe was peacefully elected, then later started confiscating the property of the bourgeoisie.

"Government" is a "social condition". Read Locke, Hobbes, Rousseau and Montesquieu. The "bourgeoisie" controlled society, i.e., they were, per Marx, the "government". Read Marx.

"... by the consent of every individual... they have thereby made that community one
body, with a power to act as one body, which is only by the will and determination of
the majority ..." (John Locke, Second Treatise, Chapter 8 [Social Contract Theory]).

[lustylad]

Originally Posted by papadee

Communists are just as happy to be elected to govt. It's not a principle that they have to subvert & overthrow govts. to gain power.

Originally Posted by papadee

Brennan was asked if he ever worked with or for a group that was dedicated to overthrowing the US. He responded he voted communist.

Hmmm... so if John Brennan admits the USA Communist Party led by Gus Hall (who he voted for) was dedicated to overthrowing our democratic form of government, why can't you?

[lustylad]

Originally Posted by papadee

Marx talked about overthrowing social conditions, not govts., and that the civil war between the proles & bourgeoisie already existed, and the overthrow of the bourgeoisie needed to take place. That can be done after peaceful elections (see South Africa). And to a lesser extent, Zimbabwe. After the war Mugabe was peacefully elected, then later started confiscating the property of the bourgeoisie.

Hey, thanks for bringing up Zimbabwe. Any idea what their inflation rate is these days? And don't forget Venezuela, Cuba, North Korea, et alia. Marxism has flopped miserably everywhere it has been attempted. It ushers in poverty, stagnation, economic ruin. And yet, lib-retards remain enthralled by this failed ideology. Haters gotta hate (the bourgeoisie), I guess.

[WTF]

Originally Posted by lustylad

Hey, thanks for bringing up Zimbabwe. Any idea what their inflation rate is these days? And don't forget Venezuela, Cuba, North Korea, et alia. Marxism has flopped miserably everywhere it has been attempted. It ushers in poverty, stagnation, economic ruin. And yet, lib-retards remain enthralled by this failed ideology. Haters gotta hate (the bourgeoisie), I guess.

Did you forget what form of government ushered in the Great Depression?

[themystic]

Originally Posted by lustylad

You can't make this stuff up! A commie-pinko who admits he voted for Gus Hall winds up being selected by odumbo and put in charge of the CIA at Langley, where he gets to help the FBI investigate Russian collusion!

Ain't this a great country?

And we know its true because CNN broke the story! How did I miss it?

https://www.cnn.com/2016/09/15/polit...ote/index.html

Let's see... which is a bigger threat... giving national security clearance to a wife-beater or a self-professed communist?

Fake News. Lusty youre making yourself look bad. But I did hear that him and Ted Cruzs dad killed Kennedy

[papadee]

Originally Posted by lustylad

Hmmm... so if John Brennan admits the USA Communist Party led by Gus Hall (who he voted for) was dedicated to overthrowing our democratic form of government, why can't you?

He didn't

[gnadfly]

Originally Posted by gnadfly

You know Brennan and the CIA have been caught several times spying on the CIA, told not to by a federal judge, and lied about it in front of Congress?

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics...senate/384003/

My bad, I meant spying on Congress.

[lustylad]

Originally Posted by papadee

He didn't

He most certainly did! He mentioned his 1976 vote for Gus Hall in direct response to the polygraph question "Have you ever worked with or for a group that was dedicated to the overthrow of the US?"

By claiming otherwise, your credibility just plummeted. It's stupid to deny plain English.

[Mr MojoRisin]

Originally Posted by WTF

Did you read the article?

Jesus

You stupid fucks are playing six degrees of separation to try and discredit the Muller investigation.



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The Mueller investigation is nothing but a barrel of Monkey spunk and all the goofy liberals are drinking from it, lol.

Jim

[lustylad]

Originally Posted by themystic

Fake News. Lusty youre (sic) making yourself look bad.

You just made yourself look doubly stupid. First, if you had opened my link you would have seen this story was reported by CNN, your favorite news source. I even mentioned that in my OP. Second, you didn't bother to read the thread or you would have noticed your fellow libtard moron WTFagboy already made the same dipshit comment you did.

Instead of taking another hit from your bong, why don't you try reading threads before you post in them? Quit being a worthless troll and wasting everyone's time.

[themystic]

Originally Posted by lustylad

You just made yourself look doubly stupid. First, if you had opened my link you would have seen this story was reported by CNN, your favorite news source. I even mentioned that in my OP. Second, you didn't bother to read the thread or you would have noticed your fellow libtard moron WTFagboy already made the same dipshit comment you did.

Instead of taking another hit from your bong, why don't you try reading threads before you post in them? Quit being a worthless troll and wasting everyone's time.

Lusty you seem to be disenfranchised with life in America. You're a very hateful person with deep issues. And I hear you're a snitch

[lustylad]

Originally Posted by themystic

Lusty you seem to be disenfranchised with life in America. You're a very hateful person with deep issues. And I hear you're a snitch

Another bong hallucination, missed dick? Let me know when you stop hating the bourgeoisie (or if you learn how to spell it). If you stop hating and instead focus on self-improvement, you might even be able to afford the Panama Red you used to toke with the Sandinistas.

[themystic]

Originally Posted by lustylad

Another bong hallucination, missed dick? Let me know when you stop hating the bourgeoisie (or if you learn how to spell it). If you stop hating and instead focus on self-improvement, you might even be able to afford the Panama Red you used to toke with the Sandinistas.

Thats better Lusty. The humor gave me a chuckle. Careful on forbidden topic. They have some snitches in here-( on you're side of the aisle)

[papadee]

Originally Posted by lustylad

He most certainly did! He mentioned his 1976 vote for Gus Hall in direct response to the polygraph question "Have you ever worked with or for a group that was dedicated to the overthrow of the US?"

By claiming otherwise, your credibility just plummeted. It's stupid to deny plain English.

Here's the plain English:
John Brennan on Thursday recalled being asked a standard question for a top security clearance at his early CIA lie detector test: Have you ever worked with or for a group that was dedicated to overthrowing the US?
"I froze," Brennan said during a panel discussion about diversity in the intelligence community at the Congressional Black Caucus Foundation's annual conference. "This was back in 1980, and I thought back to a previous election where I voted, and I voted for the Communist Party candidate,"

LustyLad: Hmmm... so if John Brennan admits the USA Communist Party led by Gus Hall (who he voted for) was dedicated to overthrowing our democratic form of government, why can't you?


My take: Brennan didn't admit that the commies were dedicated to etc., he thought back to that vote & nervously wondered if that would qualify as such. He erred on the side of caution & told the CIA about his vote.


He feared repercussions if he answered no, he didn't admit that the commies were dedicated...


Once again, your use of absolutes (wife-beater, admit) will trip you up.