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Old 11-05-2019, 05:24 AM   #1
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Default American Mormon Family Massacred in Mexico

We need to find out who those [redacted] cartel gunmen are and blow them up after we torture them.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...rn-Mexico.html

Any politicians protecting them need to rot in solitary confinement in an American jail.

The above assumes the Mexican authorities are unable to provide justice.
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Old 11-05-2019, 05:45 AM   #2
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Who is really at fault here?

These vicious cartels exist because of one reason. That being, the insatiable appetite for illegal drugs in the United States.

The key word here is illegal. Perhaps it is time to just legalize drugs, period. Treat them just like alcohol.

Think about it. Could it be much worse than what we are having to put up with now?

As a side note. One of the articles on this event mentioned the “duel citizenship” of these people.

What the fuck is that all about?
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Old 11-05-2019, 07:06 AM   #3
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We could go the other way and make some drug crimes capital crimes. I say go after Lindsay Lohan.
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Old 11-05-2019, 07:58 AM   #4
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The US should go after the killers. Hope there’s a gate in the wall.
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Old 11-05-2019, 08:25 AM   #5
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The US should go after the killers. Hope there’s a gate in the wall.
There are lots, they are called ports of entry/exit. Cross legally your are good. Your attempt at humor aside.
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Treat them like ISIS. Hunt them down and kill them.
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Treat them like ISIS. Hunt them down and kill them.
Or we could treat like the Kurds.....let them fight it out amongst themselves!

That was in Mexico right? What does that have to do with this country?

I like Jackie S answer the best so far.


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The SocialistLiberalAntiReligiousA ntiTrumpers on here should be celebrating.
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The SocialistLiberalAntiReligiousA ntiTrumpers on here should be celebrating.
Along with the Trumpers who abandoned the Kurds....



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Or we could treat like the Kurds.....let them fight it out amongst themselves!

That was in Mexico right? What does that have to do with this country?

I like Jackie S answer the best so far.


Or, we can bring the Kurds in. They killed ISIS too.
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Just because you do doesn't mean everyone else does!

But I understand your affliction of misery loving company, even if you have to fantasize and fabricate the behavior of others to give you comfort with your tortured existence.
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That was in Mexico right? What does that have to do with this country?
One need not look far to find the depth of your ignorance.
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Just because you do doesn't mean everyone else does!

But I understand your affliction of misery loving company, even if you have to fantasize and fabricate the behavior of others to give you comfort with your tortured existence.
Did you agree with the abandonment of the Kurds in Syria?



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I agree with Jackie. Andrew Yang has suggested decriminalizing opioids. He sites Portugal which has done this with much success. It's something that needs to be looked into.
My heart just broke when I saw this story. I can't imagine the terror they felt. Unbelievable.




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Who is really at fault here?

These vicious cartels exist because of one reason. That being, the insatiable appetite for illegal drugs in the United States.

The key word here is illegal. Perhaps it is time to just legalize drugs, period. Treat them just like alcohol.

Think about it. Could it be much worse than what we are having to put up with now?

As a side note. One of the articles on this event mentioned the “duel citizenship” of these people.

What the fuck is that all about?
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Old 11-05-2019, 01:13 PM   #15
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Our "War on Drugs" is an abysmal failure.

Criminalizing personal drug use has enabled the cartels to tap a market of narcotic drugs and reap billions of dollars.

And, placed a stigma of prison and criminality for life of those arrested and convicted, creating a criminal underclass of drug users doomed to recidivism.



Time to acknowledge it is OUR drug problem. and it is not solved with a "WAR on drugs."


I would decriminalize opioids, other drugs, and meth for personal use - and place these addicts in treatment programs - cheaper than prison- with no criminal record.

marijuana - treat like Colorado and legalize and tax as alcohol to those 21 years of age and older.



Dealers and cartels and pushers - those get criminal treatment.
Taking the drugs out of the hands of dealers to the addicted with good treatment, clean needles, and medical care for the addicted will go a long way to removing the market to the cartels.

No money - they go bust.



Not an easy solution - but one that takes in mind basic human nature.

open to rational debate - my stand is not consonant with that of many arch-conservatives. To borrow from a Nobel laureate -"The times they are achangin'"!
Criminalization of personal drug possession and use does not work - our society is living and dying proof.
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