How Much Info Should I Give to Provider

[luckyk]

Hey guys.. need some advice from experienced hobbyists here:

I wonder how much personal info I should give to a provider? Do you guys give out your real full name for screening purposes? I guess if they ask to check your id, then you have no choice. I don't really have anything to hide... but just prefer to remain some-what anonymous, since I don't want the hobby to come back and haunt me some point down the road.

Is it possible to be in the hobby without ever having to disclose your private info like name, address, place of employment, etc?

[littlerichard]

First you need references "ladies who will vouch for you' if you haven't seen any one yet you'll have to search out "newbie friendly" providers. They advertise if they are.
Ask if there reference friendly, so you can use them for your next encounter
They determine what info they require to be safe. If it's to much try to find someone else. Don't forget they are only trying to protect themselves. If a lady sees you without information she wouldn't be considered a safe person to hobby with. Once you get 2 reference they may be able to get you to P411 for a 6 month free trial. Then you are on your way

[mad469s]

Name- give fake 1
Employer- Make 1 up
Address- Make 1 up
If asked for ID- RUN DON'T WALK, AS FAST AS YOU CAN AWAY FROM THAT PROVIDER. NEVER let them see what you're driving, unless they're an established provider, then still use caution

[Guest030824]

P-411 gives your real life first name and the last four digits on your DL. For your safety if the gal looks real young ask to see her DL. She can cover the name but you need to see the picture and birth date. Once you have collected several reviews and OKs on P-411 you won't have to provide ID of any type. I have found meeting ladies at socials I can remind them where we met and get an immediate OK from them.

[Cpalmson]

I've never given a provider any real personal info about myself. I never will. I have established my hobby persona. It is almost my brand.

[Unique_Carpenter]

Originally Posted by Cpalmson

I've never given a provider any real personal info about myself. I never will. I have established my hobby persona. It is my brand.

Fixed that for ya. But seriously, this is the way to go.

[Guest030824]

That's fine for us but luckyk has no past reviews for the provider to check back on.

[luckyk]

tucson - thanks for pointing this out. Yes, I am a newbie with no reviews.. does that mean I have no choice but to join P411 or just give my real name / info to providers for screening?

Cpalmson - I would really prefer to do it your way. Can you offer some tips on how you were able to get your first references without providing real info?

With all the news about raids & LE getting their hands on the clients list... I just don't ever want to find my name published on the internet labeling me as a mongering criminal. I have a stable family life & career... and I want to keep it that way.

[Unique_Carpenter]

Reread littlerichard's comments, that's most likely the best answer you're going to get.
Or pay for P411. But, with zero ok's there to start, you'll probably get screened regardless.
That said, start participating on your local board (other than reviews) so that your persona gets started.
The gals do pay attention. I will advise that you not put your foot ....

[Guest030824]

My first provider had advertised as newbie friendly. She required more information than I was happy to give out but then I couldn't blame her. P-411 will require a substantial out lay of cash but you still need some reviews to get on there as they need more than the usual lady. I learned early on that some(most) of the younger ones have management(PIMPS).

[Anna Davis]

Originally Posted by luckyk

tucson - thanks for pointing this out. Yes, I am a newbie with no reviews.. does that mean I have no choice but to join P411 or just give my real name / info to providers for screening?

The lady who taught me so much about this business and especially screening will tell you that if you see a provider that ask NO QUESTIONs that's the one to be afraid of cus likely she and her pimp don't care if you are safe because they are gonna take from you. So as it has been said the ones asking simply want to be safe. If you have no ref then I suggest to see someone that a friend or do your due diligence in finding at least one lady you can trust knowing a little bit about you.
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[QUOTE=Cpalmson - I would really prefer to do it your way. Can you offer some tips on how you were able to get your first references without providing real info? [/QUOTE]
As for Cpalmson...well all I can say is he was lucjky if the first girls he saw asked no questions or didn't verify him in someway. He is more an exception to the rule then the rule in my opinion.
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[QUOTE= With all the news about raids & LE getting their hands on the clients list... I just don't ever want to find my name published on the internet labeling me as a mongering criminal. I have a stable family life & career... and I want to keep it that way.[/QUOTE]
As for this concern... Well the only sure way to protect what want to the same is don't hobby. There is always a chance of being found out. It's a slim one but still you can't be 100% unless you don't ...hell even then you can get accused and can't prove different.

As for being published on the internet it's only a slim chance that could happen as well. and being afraid of LE is exactly why you should see ladies who ask for info or credible references. Much like the hooker and her pimp, LE won't ask a bunch of questions upfront... They just want you to show up dude.They can't get you on the phone only once your there so they will not jeopardize it by asking to many questions. They will get all they want once you are theirs ...lol
Last but not least.. the last type of provider who ask nothing is the one who is desperate for the money. She has a drug habit to support, a pimp to give money to, other folks chasing her for money. This is the lady with nothing but drama to give you.
So remember luck if you really want to get lucky and stay that way reputable references or info....bottom line.

[Guest030824]

Anna I still remember the feel of your enticing body. We met at a party in Houston the sound of your voice and accent was a definite turn on. I would appreciate it if you ever get back in the Dallas area that you give me a chance to know you better.

luckyk there may be other ways to get your foot in the door but I found P411 to be the easiest. They are located in Canada and they are responsive to questions that you may have. Call or email them and voice your concerns. The hobby has pitfalls for both the providers and the clients. My advise is to stick with established providers and do research on every lady you wish to meet. I could recommend some but I am sure my ideal woman would not be yours. For safety sakes I tend to stay away form young(18-26) women. After you get involved in the hobby attend several socials to meet the ladies and get a feel(literally) for some of them. I met Anna only the one time and fell head over heels in lust for her.

[ck1942]

Give out no more information that you are comfortable losing.

Yes, losing.

Once you have given anything personal to anyone in the hobby, consider that information as being shared with multiple personas, although you may have given it only to one or two.

That said, consider why you are in the hobby, how much personal risk you are comfortable in undertaking and also be prepared for the potential serious consequences of being caught out, or worse, outed to your family, your relatives, your employer.

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Not trying to scare you; just pointing out some parameters for you to consider.

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Yes, there are pimps and "managers" in the trade. Yes, some of them can be considered hazardous.

Otherwise, dip your toe into the pool very slowly, very cautiously.

This is, after all, a HOBBY, not a vocation, on your end.

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If you haven't already done so, make sure you have a trackless hobby phone, email account, etc. precautions on your end.

Good luck and take care out there.

[luckyk]

Some good comments here. I completely understand why providers need the screening info. It's for their own safety, and I totally respect that. At some point, I will probably need to get on P411, establish persona, get a hobby phone, get references, etc.. just to make things easier for both parties. I totally get it.

But honestly, I find the process a bit tedious. Look at it from my stand point... I'm a relatively young (mid 30's), physically fit, healthy, super clean, very well educated, highly paid professional, with plenty of $ to spend. Very respectful and courteous to everyone, whether they're a provider or not. I don't just play nice for the sake of getting pussy.. I'm actually a nice / considerate guy through and through. I'm also not "weird" or creepy in any way. Don't have any unusual fetishes (not even into Greek). I'm a confident, outgoing, friendly guy, and a pretty good conversationalist too. YET despite all these qualities... I still have to be screened as if I'm a dangerous low-life thug. Again, I understand why this process exist. I just wish there was an easier way for me to convey / prove all my qualities to providers. Unfortunately, I'm in a career (and marriage, for that matter) where I strongly prefer remaining anonymous when it comes to hobby life. Instead of disclosing all my real personal info for screening, I would much rather pay a prospective provider to meet me somewhere public for drinks or dinner.. so she can judge for herself whether or not I'm safe to see. -OR- for the right girl, I'd be more than happy to pay double her standard rate to see a "newbie". BTW- In case you're a provider in DFW area reading this post... my offer is open! Please PM me if you're interested in meeting a new friend

I keep on telling myself I should spend more time, effort, & money getting established in the escort hobby.. which is really where I want to be. But in the mean time, I've been distracted by AMP's and strip club OTC encounters, which also offers a fun experience without all the formalities of screening. In the long term though, I do want to establish myself in the REAL hobby. I just need to find the inner conviction to go through the process of getting references, etc.

[Guest030824]

You will be a providers dream client. You need to get your foot in the door. I see you will need to lead a low profile from your home life. I think P411 excepts money orders. Call Gina at P411 and talk to her about your concerns.