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Old 10-09-2011, 02:34 AM   #1
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Question P411 or Date Check

I have heard this many times but it's got me wondering, use P411 to verify someone but is Date Check just as good?
Is there some other ways that are more effective? Pros and cons ladies & men.
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Old 10-09-2011, 06:41 AM   #2
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Sweete I been a member of datecheck for a more than a year ...no problems
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Old 10-09-2011, 11:27 AM   #3
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I'm a happy member of P411 and was a member of Date-Check. I got a free trial D-C membership through a provider I saw and just didn't really see much point in keeping it going.

From my client perspective it seems that the Date-Check verification process is much more automated - maybe entirely automated for those with a provider referral. On the other hand, P411 seems much more of a "hands on" operation.
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Old 10-09-2011, 11:31 AM   #4
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I am a member of both sites but I do like P411 better their layout is more simple.Both are great and make it easier for the gents and us ladies.
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Old 10-09-2011, 06:53 PM   #5
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I am a member of both.I enjoy P411 a little more due to p411 having more features.Dc is,a little bit quieter.
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Old 10-09-2011, 09:08 PM   #6
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Good points everyone and I just starting using the for the fact that I am traveling for the first time and had to increase my screening for safety reasons.
Seems like p411 has been the more popular site. But the men have made it clear that it's harder to become a member...
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Old 10-10-2011, 01:29 AM   #7
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I'm a happy member of P411 and was a member of Date-Check. I got a free trial D-C membership through a provider I saw and just didn't really see much point in keeping it going.

From my client perspective it seems that the Date-Check verification process is much more automated - maybe entirely automated for those with a provider referral. On the other hand, P411 seems much more of a "hands on" operation.

You're absolutely right, P411 is absolutely much more secure. So much personal interaction, a live chat interface, "verified photos" feature to prove your pics are real to clients, human verification of provider references, attention to provider needs you name it, the list goes on.

One problem is that P411 is not as big in all areas. I tour, and I find that in some cities I have tons of messages from p411 and others its dead. A good indicator is to go in on the client side and see how many providers are in the proposed city. Higher number of girls means higher number of clients.

That tip came to me during a chat with a P411 rep on the live chat interface. They are all about helping providers personally.

One thing we can do as providers to help p411 be in more areas to keep us all safe is mention them on your site, mention that client info is immediately destroyed after verification and that they are hosted outside the US. All true statements.

One last thing is add the link to your p411 profile into your signature line in emails and any profiles that allow it. This will improve their visibility to clients, and give us more cities where P411 can be our main ad site.

Date Check is okay, but I find it a bit primitive.

I can't remember anyone ever saying that they found me there. I quit posting ads there...

I also know that having so many ( I think 16 ) years in the industry, there is no way in hell that Gina is going to sell anybody out. Just not going to happen. No E.com drama is going to go down at P411. That is a fact.

Enjoy your travels, it can be the adventure of a lifetime.
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Old 10-10-2011, 02:48 AM   #8
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nympthtalk, can you tell me how long has p411 been around?
I like the idea about putting in your signature line the p411 info with both the provider and hobbyist.
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Old 10-10-2011, 10:37 AM   #9
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P411 is good for everyone. Use up to date pics to prevent surprises. Check references as always.
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They have been around several years Anita, and they continue to grow, but I don't really see how that matters. The staff has a strong reputation that is known and admired in our circles.

Just start building a reputation. Let your clients know before scheduling that whether it is good or bad, you would expect an honest review to be posted of you as you are trying to become established. Then, just consistently be a great friend of hobbyists, and they will eventually show you their appreciation.

It won't happen overnight, you must be patient, but soon people will know you for being the great provider that you are, or if the opposite is true- They will know you for that too... ):

Always be who you expect to be known as, always carry the reputation that you want to keep. This business has a memory like an elephant.
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Old 10-10-2011, 04:53 PM   #11
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But the men have made it clear that it's harder to become a member...
And that is a bad thing?
It makes me feel a little safer that P411 is harder to become a member of their site.
I could be wrong but when I checked out DC it just give me the
'As long as you pay you must be OK' feeling...
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Old 10-10-2011, 05:10 PM   #12
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P411 put a new client of mine through the ringer to screen him as he'd never seen a provider before me, and I LIKE that. He wasn't very comfortable about it at first, but now he says it was worth it to see me. Might be full of blarney about that part, but I was impressed about his experience with their thoroughness.
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Old 10-10-2011, 05:23 PM   #13
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I have heard this many times but it's got me wondering, use P411 to verify someone but is Date Check just as good?
Is there some other ways that are more effective? Pros and cons ladies & men.
I love them both and use them equally. Great for touring ladies that use the east coasts and northern areas..
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Old 10-10-2011, 06:03 PM   #14
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Sounds like p411 has the vote....
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both are wonderful sites.. its still best to doublecheck the okays associated with that person tho. It wouldnt be farfetched idea that Uncle Leo would find someway to sneak in there somehow
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