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Old 04-24-2024, 10:52 PM   #1
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Default Arizona fake electors indicted by grand jury

A grand jury has charged 11 Arizona Republicans and seven top aides to Donald Trump in a scheme to keep Trump in the White House by falsely certifying he won the state in 2020, though voters narrowly favored Joe Biden.


Trump himself is, according to the document, “unindicted coconspirator 1.”




The lasting effect of Trump insanity:


ruptured faith in elections and fueled conspiracies that have taken root
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Old 04-25-2024, 11:53 AM   #2
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Old 04-25-2024, 12:46 PM   #3
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The 2020 election wasn't stolen....although the attempt to do so was unsuccessful.
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Old 04-25-2024, 01:26 PM   #4
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The scheme with the fake electors IMHO is a bigger deal than the crowd that got out of control on January 6. Although the two are related, if you believe Trump and his advisors intended for Pence and others to cave as a result of the pressure from the mob.
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Old 04-25-2024, 04:46 PM   #5
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... What are "fake electors"??
And is Arizona the onley state that had them?

### Salty
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Every time someone tries to tell me that the 2020 election was stolen, that it’s a conspiracy between the election officials and the election machines I simply want to laugh. A conspiracy of that size would have to involve hundreds of individuals to pull off. But no one can find any evidence of that and not one of the people supposedly involved has talked about it to anyone.

However the plan to push fake electors, an actual conspiracy, leaked like a sieve.

Grand conspiracies simply don’t exist in America. The last time people conspired to keep something on this scale hidden was the development of the atomic bomb. Even being at war and under threat of prison couldn’t keep some people from talking.
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... What are "fake electors"??
And is Arizona the onley state that had them?

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You need to read up on all the things the GOP was trying to do in Arizona. The grand jury indictment spells out a lot of them. How they thought they could get away with it, is shocking.


Several internal GOP memos even spell out their plan in detail. And they were encouraging other states to do what they were attempting to do, Georgia being one of them, so if they all worked together, their plan would work.



As I understand it, the reason they try to list and appoint fake electors is to cause enough confusion in the Congress that they are unable to certify the election, thereby causing chaos and a need for a Congressional vote to determine the President.


It is absolutely shocking what Trump and his minions attempted to do. If more people understood that, they would understand why he should not be President again, or even be a candidate.
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Old 04-25-2024, 10:26 PM   #8
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... Oh! ... Why didn't you just say so? ... NOW I know what they are!

Maxine Waters brought "Fake Electors" to the Trump Election
Certification back in 2017... She and some others were tryin'
to stop the Certification and have VP Joe Biden send the
election back to several states.

... Thanks for clearing that up... I did reckon THAT is what
you meant by "fake electors".... Maxine and the Democrats
didn't think their electors were "fake" when THAY did it.

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Round up at the ok corral.
Hope they nail ever damn one of em with jail time. I've had enough of these trumpf cultists
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Old 04-25-2024, 11:02 PM   #10
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... Oh! ... Why didn't you just say so? ... NOW I know what they are!

Maxine Waters brought "Fake Electors" to the Trump Election
Certification back in 2017... She and some others were tryin'
to stop the Certification and have VP Joe Biden send the
election back to several states.

... Thanks for clearing that up... I did reckon THAT is what
you meant by "fake electors".... Maxine and the Democrats
didn't think their electors were "fake" when THAY did it.

#### Salty
In Arizona? In 2020? Nah, in 2017, people were shocked and pissed and marched in the streets wearing pussy hats, but nobody got indicted. Even by the thug-nasty Trump DOJ.

If I didn’t know better, I’d say you were trying to somehow normalize the attempted election buttfuckery by yer-own saviour and his band of merry dipshits.

Or change the subject.

Or spin more fables.

I think Georgia and Arizona are the tip of the iceberg and as more information comes to light, the more likely these dipshits are to rot in prison. And when The Flatulent T gets in a cell, his neighbours likely-won’t tolerate the hot air.

This thread is about Arizona fakery, and that Giuliani, Meadows and the bunch are in deep-shit.

Hee Hee.
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... Oh! ... Why didn't you just say so? ... NOW I know what they are!

Maxine Waters brought "Fake Electors" to the Trump Election
Certification back in 2017... She and some others were tryin'
to stop the Certification and have VP Joe Biden send the
election back to several states.

... Thanks for clearing that up... I did reckon THAT is what
you meant by "fake electors".... Maxine and the Democrats
didn't think their electors were "fake" when THAY did it.

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Yeah, as usual, no - https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/...y/71895208007/
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... Oh! ... Why didn't you just say so? ... NOW I know what they are!

Maxine Waters brought "Fake Electors" to the Trump Election
Certification back in 2017... She and some others were tryin'
to stop the Certification and have VP Joe Biden send the
election back to several states.

... Thanks for clearing that up... I did reckon THAT is what
you meant by "fake electors".... Maxine and the Democrats
didn't think their electors were "fake" when THAY did it.

#### Salty

This is 2024, not 2017.


This thread topic is about Arizona fake electors.


You do this a lot Salty......bring up totally irrelevant information from the past.
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... Please explain how it's "totally irrelevant"... Are they
ALL "fake electors"?? ... You mention Arizona, Yssup mentions
Georgia and the tip of icebergs, and I mention Maxine and
what she did. ... Or is it just "fake" when Republicans do it??

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This is 2024, not 2017.


The thread topic is the Arizona fake electors in 2024.
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This is 2024, not 2017.


The thread topic is the Arizona fake electors in 2024.
... THAT seems fair enough...

... And reckon THAT goes for not just me, but the
other posters also? ... And yer-self.

.... Let's see how the people of AZ react to the "indictments"...
As more trials will indeed show the election problems
and the steps to disenfranchise AZ voters.

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