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Old 09-29-2017, 05:45 AM   #361
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Let's look at Connecticut just as an example.
"an example" of what?

Let's take a look at Rwanda for stats, ok?

In the meantime have your sports "heroes" disrespect the Flag of Connecticut ... since you want to use them as an example.
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Old 09-29-2017, 06:29 AM   #362
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I don't have to. You just did! Thank you!

BTW: Who gives a shit who they "supported" in the election?

Besides you?

Perhaps most of the people who voted for Trump don't believe that the United States of America "oppresses Blacks and people of color," which means they are smarter than those who didn't vote for Trump!
First, your statement was 2/3s of the people were "offended" by the player's actions. The poll I cited showed 55%, which is far different. Again, would you care to share YOUR poll in which 2/3s of the people in this country are offended?

Second, there is a difference between finding one's actions "inappropriate" and being "offended". I may have found the actions of the players inappropriate but I was certainly not offended by them.

I simply pointed out the findings in the polls. Most of the people who said they found the actions of the players inappropriate were white. Male. 90% voted for Trump. Take it as you will. The pollsters thought it important enough to point out. Got a problem with it? Take it up with them.
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Old 09-29-2017, 06:52 AM   #363
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"an example" of what?

Let's take a look at Rwanda for stats, ok?

In the meantime have your sports "heroes" disrespect the Flag of Connecticut ... since you want to use them as an example.
I was challenging garkhal's assertion that more blacks were in prison because it was them committing more of the crimes. As the numbers shown by Connecticut prove, at least in that state, that isn't the case.

How could a population of less than 20% of the total be responsible for over 90% of the crime in our country?

The answer is, IT CAN'T!

There is no possible way those numbers add up. Even if the number of blacks in jail were cut in half, you still could not find a reasonable narrative to explain the numbers.

Bad white people commit more crime than bad black people. Good white people don't have to put up with the flack caused by the bad white people that good black people have to endure.

It makes no sense.
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Old 09-29-2017, 06:54 AM   #364
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Mojo, you keep knocking down their Fake Narrative. You can't fix stupid, but you can ignorance, if one is willing to listen.

This isn't about the "poor downtrodden" people who are "Black" or "of color"! Because his kneeling during the National Anthem is not doing shit for even one of them! It just makes him what he is ... an unpatriotic ass. Those who support him are .... supporting an "unpatriotic ass"!

I just saw/heard that the new (rookie) quaterback (he's Black!) for the Texans split his first game check IN THE NFL with three Hispanic ladies (people of color) who lost everything in Harvey.

That's doing something productive and worthwhile for "people of color," but kneeling accomplishes nothing, but create a bunch of noise!

Kind of like the hooker's keyboard.
Colin Kaepernick, who I believe was the first person to "take a knee" has donated $1 million and proceeds from uniform sales to various organizations such as "Meals on Wheels" and is very involved in various communities inspiring the young. He was recently awarded the community MVP award by the NFLPA. Didn't know that did you?

I'd be willing to bet that countless NFL players, some who kneel and some who don't, contribute millions and millions of dollars to various charitable causes but don't publicize it.

Whether or not kneeling accomplishes anything is yet to be seen. Since Trump's comments/tweets on the subject, the average person who previously was unaware of kneeling in protest is now fully aware of it. Two weeks ago there wouldn't have been a discussion of it on this forum. We'll see what happens. The NFL is now the most popular sport in this country.
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Old 09-29-2017, 06:58 AM   #365
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The NFL is now the most popular sport in this country.
And, losing ground rapidly.

NFL = No Fans Left.

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news...s-are-winning/
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Old 09-29-2017, 06:59 AM   #366
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If bakers are required by court ruling to bake cakes for faggots without the bakers asserting their political or religious beliefs, then fucking football players should damn well be required to play football in accordance with published NFL guidelines without asserting their political beliefs.
There is no requirement that NFL players stand during the playing of the national anthem. The NBA does have such a rule. The NFL commissioner supports the players. The NFLPA supports them. The majority of the owners support them. The majority of their fellow NFL players support them.
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Old 09-29-2017, 07:07 AM   #367
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There is no requirement that NFL players stand during the playing of the national anthem. The NBA does have such a rule. The NFL commissioner supports the players. The NFLPA supports them. The majority of the owners support them. The majority of their fellow NFL players support them.
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Old 09-29-2017, 07:08 AM   #368
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And, losing ground rapidly.

NFL = No Fans Left.
Trump made this bigger than wtf it was because he is trying to divert from Russia.

He needs all the racist supporters that will look the other way to all the raping of America that he is trying to do.

His tax plan lines the rich's pockets while blowing up the debt...


But you racist fucks are stuck on the NFL.
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Old 09-29-2017, 07:11 AM   #369
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The way one keeps "football football" is get the protesting off the field and away from "football"! The fans control "football" and they pay their salaries. A few Sundays (or Thursdays) with empty stadiums should do the trick.

Speaking of "Longhorns" ... how many players on UT-Austin got on a knee during the "Eyes of Texas"? Or did they just do it when the U.S. Flag was presented.
Do you REALLY think that the average NFL ticket holder gives a damn about what a few players (a few until Trump got involved) do before the game? Hell no. There will be a small handful of ticket holders who will protest the protesters in some form or fashion but the stands will be full, depending on the venue (not all NFL games are sell-outs). In looking at pictures of last night's Chicago-Green Bay game, it didn't look like there were many empty seats.
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Old 09-29-2017, 07:13 AM   #370
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What's lost in all this bullshit is that whites are killed by LE more than blacks or minorities. You can argue that there are more whites in this country. That's true. But it's also true that blacks commit far more violent crimes than whites.
Again, black do not commit more violent crime than whites. See link.

The numbers are slightly higher for murder. Rape, aggravated assault, offenses against family and children, violent crime.....ALL higher in whites than blacks.

https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2012/crime-in-the-u.s.-2012/tables/43tabledatadecoverviewpdf


How did you come to the conclusion that it was the other way?

In total more than double the amount of crime is committed by whites than blacks.
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Hockey has CTE issues as well....

Looks like all the racist honkies will have to go back to NASCAR ....yall love their flag!


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Go fuck yourself, Speedy.
I repeat -- there is nothing that prohibits an NFL player from taking a knee during the playing of the national anthem.

http://www.snopes.com/must-nfl-players-stand/

"There is no mention of the national anthem in the NFL rulebook. There are no pages A62 or A63, either."

"McCarthy stressed that passage about the national anthem is a guideline and not a requirement. The key words in the operations manual are “should” and “may” and not “must.” No player is required to stand at attention."
Source: http://www.kansascity.com/sports/spt...175221581.html
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Old 09-29-2017, 07:32 AM   #373
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I repeat -- there is nothing that prohibits an NFL player from taking a knee during the playing of the national anthem.

http://www.snopes.com/must-nfl-players-stand/

"There is no mention of the national anthem in the NFL rulebook. There are no pages A62 or A63, either."

"McCarthy stressed that passage about the national anthem is a guideline and not a requirement. The key words in the operations manual are “should” and “may” and not “must.” No player is required to stand at attention."
Source: http://www.kansascity.com/sports/spt...175221581.html
Didn't cite any page A62 or A63, speedy. Cited NFL Rule 5, Article 8, on page 23 of the NFL rule book that prohibits political messaging, you stupid jackass.


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Again, black do not commit more violent crime than whites. See link.

The numbers are slightly higher for murder. Rape, aggravated assault, offenses against family and children, violent crime.....ALL higher in whites than blacks.

https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s...decoverviewpdf


How did you come to the conclusion that it was the other way?
You equivocate, green weenie. The FBI table you cite absolutely shows that 12.6% of the population is, in fact, committing 28.1% of the crime, you lying SOB. That means they are highly over represented in the criminality bracket, green weenie.
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Old 09-29-2017, 07:35 AM   #374
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The FBI (United States of America, BTW) stats on crime have historically shown in the data that the "White" population commits more crime (there are substantially more "Whites" than "Blacks" in the U.S. population), BUT

by percentage of population there is a higher percentage rate of crime among the Black population than the "White" population. As the U.S. "nonWhite" population increases to the point of overtaking the number of "Whites" in the U.S. population the % of the crime committed in the U.S. will be led by the "NonWhite" population when combined.

The increased % of crime as per the FEB stats by the Blacks reflects a higher contact with LE and given a propensity of the younger Black population to express and demonstrate a deepened hatred and lack of respect for authority (LE authority included with educational institutions) [take a loot at the posts on Eccie] then it is more likely than the physical resistance will increase into more confrontations and more confrontations will result in more shootings by LE of "NonWhite" suspects.

The crooks always want LE to "find something else to do" and those who want to do what ever they please ... from speeding to stealing ... to ...... don't want LE to stick their nose in "their business" of "speeding to stealing ... to __________"! Again, look at the posts on Eccie.
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Old 09-29-2017, 07:39 AM   #375
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They are not all supporters of Trump.

http://abcnews.go.com/m/story?id=50073511&sid=78
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