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01-27-2020, 10:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Why_Yes_I_Do
Approx 6% directly from the gubmint huh?At what level of government sponsorship to a media outlet to you get uncomfortable?
Notwithstanding the concept that most of the other donations are tax deductible, thus the people, via government, are tossing $$ into PBS coffers, albeit without direct consent:
At what level of government sponsorship to a media outlet do you get uncomfortable?
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The point is that PBS and NPR would survive just fine on personal donations, grants, and other private sponsorships.
And apparently, the government sponsorship is not of much influence on their content. To wit, Mike Pompeo's frustration with Mary Louise Kelly's questions in a recent interview, over which Fox News host Steve Hilton has accused Pompeo of being a "baby" and a "bully":
https://www.newsweek.com/mike-pompeo...ne-fox-1484129
""I listen to NPR a lot and I can tell you that Mary Louise Kelly is one of the very few hosts on there who actually seems fair and is not totally biased against President Trump. For goodness sake, Mr. Secretary, don't be such a baby. You should be able to handle tough questions by now and don't be such a bully. Foul mouth ranting at a reporter doing her job is an embarrassment to you and the administration. You should apologize and people will think much more of you if you do," Hilton said.
And if you're so concerned about the tax deductions for contributions to non-profit organizations like NPR and PBS, then in all fairness, you should be equally concerned about tax deductions for contributions to religious, pro-life, and other non-profits that benefit conservative values. Those deductions also add to the tax burden of citizens without direct consent.
Unless, like most conservatives, you want to have your cake and eat it too.
But if you feel so strongly about it, you do have the recourse of voting for representatives who promise to revoke tax deductions to non-profit organizations. But they are as rare as hens teeth, since the tax deductions are extremely popular.
Maybe a letter to your congressman would help. I'm sure that your well-reasoned arguments would be persuasive.
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01-27-2020, 07:12 PM
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#32
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Originally Posted by Why_Yes_I_Do
Originally Posted by Why_Yes_I_Do
Approx 6% directly from the gubmint huh?At what level of government sponsorship to a media outlet to you get uncomfortable?
Notwithstanding the concept that most of the other donations are tax deductible, thus the people, via government, are tossing $$ into PBS coffers, albeit without direct consent:
At what level of government sponsorship to a media outlet do you get uncomfortable?
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Well, I loved PBS back when Alistair Cooke hosted it. And I got the National Palestinian Radio bug when I heard Car Talk in the early/mid 80s. I still like it now since I grew up with the BBC. So, you can look up what the budget is for than and now.
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01-28-2020, 09:42 AM
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This just in - Libertarianism
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Originally Posted by Dev Null
The point is that PBS and NPR would survive just fine on personal donations, grants, and other private sponsorships.
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And so they should
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Originally Posted by Dev Null
And if you're so concerned about the tax deductions for contributions to non-profit organizations like NPR and PBS, then in all fairness, you should be equally concerned about tax deductions for contributions to religious, pro-life, and other non-profits that benefit conservative values. Those deductions also add to the tax burden of citizens without direct consent.
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I am not a believer in those tax deductions. However, I do not see how you equate religion and pro-life as only being the domain of conservatives. The math is wonky.
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Unless, like most conservatives, you want to have your cake and eat it too.
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I want my cake with two scoops of ice cream. Then I'll eat it.
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But if you feel so strongly about it, you do have the recourse of voting for representatives
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I do and I do. Most of the tax code is pandering to different groups and donors and should end. I advocate for flat tax, post card tax returns, with minimal exceptions.
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01-28-2020, 09:47 AM
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Musta missed that particular Constitutional amendment
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Maybe I missed it, but don't spending measures originate in the House?
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01-28-2020, 11:32 AM
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If it weren't for PBS there would never have been a Sesame Street nor any number of excellent TV shows that many folks in the nation have enjoyed in not loved. These government contribution are seed money for the network to raise more money from sponsors and individual contributors. I am grateful and deep down I bet you are too.
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01-28-2020, 12:15 PM
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You just aren’t very wise...
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01-28-2020, 03:17 PM
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Maybe I missed it, but don't spending measures originate in the House? ![Ermm](https://cdn-w.eccie.net/images/smilies/modern/ermm.gif)
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As Fearless Leader pounds his chest, the populace gravitate to the point where the abscissa goes to squat on the diagram. The part you like.
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01-28-2020, 06:44 PM
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Originally Posted by stikiwikit
If it weren't for PBS there would never have been a Sesame Street nor any number of excellent TV shows that many folks in the nation have enjoyed in not loved. These government contribution are seed money for the network to raise more money from sponsors and individual contributors. I am grateful and deep down I bet you are too.
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Not to mention Ken Burns's epic documentaries, Mr. Rogers Neighborhood, American Experience, Masterpiece Theater, and a little closer to home, Austin City Limits. Excellent, intelligent programming and among the most trusted news and commentary in America, based on polls of the American public.
Truly a great service and still putting out great programming, despite the lame attempts to silence them by their detractors, who are mostly Fox News and Rush dittoheads known mostly for shit-flinging, low-brow character assassination, blatant corruption, and profound dishonesty from sea to shining sea.
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01-28-2020, 07:39 PM
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You just aren’t very wise...
That's something on the par with "Whose boat is that?"
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01-29-2020, 07:24 AM
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Horry-chite New frickn Jersey
Some Trump2020 rally in Wildwood, NJ Data: 158,632 Requested Tickets (92,841 distinct signups)
73,482 Voters Identified
10.4% Didn’t Vote in 2016
26.3% Democrats
Wildwood averages 5,000 residents during winter months. The stadium has max capacity of 7,500 seats
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01-29-2020, 08:38 AM
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Y’all are a bunch of fools... more Democratic madness is what you’d prefer... geez!!!
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01-29-2020, 08:55 AM
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Y’all are a bunch of fools... more Democratic madness is what you’d prefer... geez!!!
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As the yard sign says " ANY RESPONSIBLE ADULT2020"
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01-29-2020, 08:57 AM
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This - love it!
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Some Trump2020 rally in Wildwood, NJ Data: 158,632 Requested Tickets (92,841 distinct signups)
73,482 Voters Identified
10.4% Didn’t Vote in 2016
26.3% Democrats
Wildwood averages 5,000 residents during winter months. The stadium has max capacity of 7,500 seats ![Smileysex](https://cdn-w.eccie.net/images/smilies/modern/smileysex.gif)
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01-29-2020, 04:45 PM
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This - love it!
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Will Trump win NJ in 2020?
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01-29-2020, 05:33 PM
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Approx 6% directly from the gubmint huh?At what level of government sponsorship to a media outlet to you get uncomfortable? But then, you probably also think airplane seats are comfortable. ![No](https://cdn-w.eccie.net/images/smilies/modern/no.gif)
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Originally Posted by Why_Yes_I_Do
Originally Posted by Why_Yes_I_Do
Approx 6% directly from the gubmint huh?At what level of government sponsorship to a media outlet to you get uncomfortable?
Notwithstanding the concept that most of the other donations are tax deductible, thus the people, via government, are tossing $$ into PBS coffers, albeit without direct consent:
At what level of government sponsorship to a media outlet do you get uncomfortable?
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Originally Posted by Precious_b
Well, I loved PBS back when Alistair Cooke hosted it. And I got the National Palestinian Radio bug when I heard Car Talk in the early/mid 80s. I still like it now since I grew up with the BBC. So, you can look up what the budget is for than and now.
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Originally Posted by Precious_b
As Fearless Leader pounds his chest, the populace gravitate to the point where the abscissa goes to squat on the diagram. The part you like.
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Well, if you check out Public Radio Finance site (as well as goverment budget numbers), you can see that NPR receives under 1% funding. I've never had a problem with what is broadcast over all these decades with various levels of goverment funding.
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