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Old 01-12-2019, 11:47 AM   #121
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You were off topic and trying to hijack the thread. But your hijack effort doesn't change the fact that Trump's daughter and son-in-law endorse the essence of Trump's speech and aren't being hypocrites about walls providing security like Odumbo ... hiding behind his wallS and his gunS pontificating that Americans need neither.
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Old 01-12-2019, 12:28 PM   #122
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being hypocrites about walls providing security like Odumbo ... hiding behind his wallS and his gunS pontificating that Americans need neither.
again comparing a 2000 mile wall with a wall around your home is disingenuous.

A simpleton Endeavor meant to stir the low-information voters
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Old 01-12-2019, 12:36 PM   #123
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No. It's ignorant not to recognize the purpose of the walls is to discourage, stop and redirect mostly pedestrian trespassers. If it's good enough for Odumbo's house, it's damn sure good enough for the American citizen.

What kind of argument is that?

You can not defend a 2000 mile border with a wall.

One can argue that you can not defend your house with just a wall.

We obviously haven't been able to build a wall around the ignorance on this subject.

A fucking wall around a house is paid for by the homeowner. ..not your neighbors. Trump wants me to pay for his fucking wall...

There are so many factual points to counter this simpleton argument of yours.
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Old 01-12-2019, 12:49 PM   #124
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What kind of argument is that?

You can not defend a 2000 mile border with a wall.

One can argue that you can not defend your house with just a wall.

We obviously haven't been able to build a wall around the ignorance on this subject.

A fucking wall around a house is paid for by the homeowner. ..not your neighbors. Trump wants me to pay for his fucking wall...

There are so many factual points to counter this simpleton argument of yours.
It's an illegitimate, hyperbolic talking-point to claim the wall will be "2,000 miles long."

CNN's Acosta demonstrated to a national, public audience that you don't have to "defend" a wall. Would-be illegal trespassers seek out easier access points than investing the time and tools necessary to tunnel under or cut their way through a wall.

The Border Agents asking for a wall are not simpletons. They are the only professionally informed individuals in this debate who know what the fuck they are talking about.

That Chucky and Nancy refuse to concede that the Border Agents are more aware of and better informed than they are about border security says much about the stupidity of those leading the dim-retard party and those who kowtow to that leadership's every ignorant and decidedly uninformed opinion.
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Old 01-12-2019, 12:56 PM   #125
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It's an illegitimate, hyperbolic talking-point to claim the wall will be "2,000 miles long."

CNN's Acosta demonstrated to a national, public audience that you don't have to "defend" a wall. Would-be illegal trespassers seek out easier access points than investing the time and tools necessary to tunnel under or cut their way through a wall.

The Border Agents asking for a wall are not simpletons. They are the only professionally informed individuals in this debate who know what the fuck they are talking about.

That Chucky and Nancy refuse to concede that the Border Agents are more aware of and better informed than they are about border security says much about the stupidity of those leading the dim-retard party and those who kowtow to that leadership's every ignorant and decidedly uninformed opinion.
Why did he not do this when he had the Senate and the House. Trump is a fucking moron. Maybe his daddy will give him the money
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Old 01-12-2019, 01:04 PM   #126
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Why did he not do this when he had the Senate and the House. Trump is a fucking moron. Maybe his daddy will give him the money
This is only the second budget, and Trump never had the Senate to push through his agenda. Anyone claiming he did is lying. McCain and Flake were petulant RINOs.
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Old 01-12-2019, 01:14 PM   #127
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It's an illegitimate, hyperbolic talking-point to claim the wall will be "2,000 miles long."

CNN's Acosta demonstrated to a national, public audience that you don't have to "defend" a wall. Would-be illegal trespassers seek out easier access points than investing the time and tools necessary to tunnel under or cut their way through a wall.

The Border Agents asking for a wall are not simpletons. They are the only professionally informed individuals in this debate who know what the fuck they are talking about.

That Chucky and Nancy refuse to concede that the Border Agents are more aware of and better informed than they are about border security says much about the stupidity of those leading the dim-retard party and those who kowtow to that leadership's every ignorant and decidedly uninformed opinion.
So you admit he wants to build a partial wall...did he check with Obama and see if that was how he built the fence around his house

No congressional representative whose District borders Mexico wants the wall Trump wants. Period. Maybe you think buck privates should start deciding military strategy according to your logic
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Old 01-12-2019, 01:24 PM   #128
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So you admit he wants to build a partial wall...did he check with Obama and see if that was how he built the fence around his house

No congressional representative whose District borders Mexico wants the wall Trump wants. Period. Maybe you think buck privates should start deciding military strategy according to your logic
The Arizona ranchers along the border say they want Trump's wall and that their politicians suck and don't reflect their opinions or concern for personal safety.
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Old 01-12-2019, 01:32 PM   #129
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The Arizona ranchers along the border say they want Trump's wall and that their politicians suck and don't reflect their opinions or concern for personal safety.
LMAO!!!!!! Where do get this stuff IB? I want to be a rancher in, lets see....Arizona. Yeah that's it Arizona. On the border. But I want a wall on my property. I hope I have good politicians who will build it for me so I feel safe. Yeah. Im going to be a rancher on the border. In Arizona ……… Im going call my ranch MAGA. Get well soon IB
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LMAO!!!!!! Where do get this stuff IB? I want to be a rancher in, lets see....Arizona. Yeah that's it Arizona. On the border. But I want a wall on my property. I hope I have good politicians who will build it for me so I feel safe. Yeah. Im going to be a rancher on the border. In Arizona ……… Im going call my ranch MAGA. Get well soon IB
Maybe you should read and listen to the concerns of Arizona ranchers before you fantasize about what Arizona ranchers believe. BTW, it's not my mental health you should concern yourself with. I know and have the facts to support my opinions.
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Old 01-12-2019, 01:52 PM   #131
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Maybe you should read and listen to the concerns of Arizona ranchers before you fantasize about what Arizona ranchers believe. BTW, it's not my mental health you should concern yourself with. I know and have the facts to support my opinions.
Im not worried about your mental health IB. LMAO. Your the one who said I had TDS or some nonsense you people make up. I just laugh and Pray for you. Peace be with you my Brother. Btw hope you feel better soon
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Old 01-12-2019, 01:59 PM   #132
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Im not worried about your mental health IB. LMAO. Your the one who said I had TDS or some nonsense you people make up. I just laugh and Pray for you. Peace be with you my Brother. Btw hope you feel better soon
Again with the mock concern for my health. Health topics regarding other forum members are forbidden, and your mock concern in this instance is also off topic in that it has absolutely no bearing on Trump's speech for a wall -- the OP for this thread.

That you again deflect from the fact that Arizona ranchers want Trump's wall with mock concern for my health shows how weak your argument against Trump's wall is.
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Mystic, wtf and all libbies ignore the FACT hat the people who are actually at the border and see what goes on on a daily basis WANT a wall. Your idiotic straw man arguments don't change that. The Dems are losing this fight. Period.
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Old 01-12-2019, 03:32 PM   #134
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Mystic, wtf and all libbies ignore the FACT hat the people who are actually at the border and see what goes on on a daily basis WANT a wall. Your idiotic straw man arguments don't change that. The Dems are losing this fight. Period.
Exactly. Jurisdictions along the border do not want Americans to really know whats going on at the border! As the very bad publicity would hurt tourism! Most land owners on the border have been begging the govt. to do something for years. The ones that are complaining are the ones only concerned about money for themselves! I have had property that had right of ways thru them. And also i had to sell property for a county road to cut thru the middle of my property! I did not like it! But it was for the greater good! Look, people can and do bitch about anything! But The Wall will help and will be payed for by mexico!
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Old 01-12-2019, 05:16 PM   #135
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The Arizona ranchers along the border say they want Trump's wall and that their politicians suck and don't reflect their opinions or concern for personal safety.
Then let you people who want a wall pay for that wall that is to be built on private property that these Arizona ranchers want a wall built on.

See IB , as a Libertarian I have no problem with somebody building a wall on private property if they want to I do have a problem with the government taking private citizens land to put a f****** wall on it. Or Arizona ranchers wanting me to foot the bill on a wall they want built.
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