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Old 11-09-2011, 09:21 PM   #16
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I suspect some--by no means all--preceived "time wasting" is an issue of perspective. I almost always start off contact with an e-mail or PM introducing myself, telling a bit about myself, saying the range of dates I expect to be in her area, and giving my references/P411/D-C info.

A significant part of my decision process is how she responds. A no-reply will end my interest right there. A one-line form responce will likely do the same. A personalized responce will usually cause me to pursue setting up a date. Unfortunately my work schedule is not always my own and so I sometimes don't actually get there, and have to cancel (at least a day's notice, usually a few days notice).

Most ladies are understanding, but I have been scolded as a time waster for not following through after my one introductory e-mail, and for having to cancel/eschedule because my business trip didn't happen. In my world view, that is not time wasting, but some ladies do consider it such. The English language is filled with ill defined terms.
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Old 11-09-2011, 10:15 PM   #17
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ok i can appreciate that response....but what if the client used the appt form via p411 to schedule their inquiry?
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Old 11-09-2011, 10:42 PM   #18
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If they filled out the appointment form with date/time etc naturally reply back if you can or can't with a message and request an email/phone confirmation. Ive only had one in a year that did that, requested and never heard from them again, I just assumed real life happened and didn't think a thing about it. I always keep up communication as much as possible leading up to the date, a simple..hope your day is going great, looking forward to seeing you Wednesday etc. I think that helps.
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Old 11-09-2011, 11:45 PM   #19
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yes , i did reply and agreed to a date and time.then they cancelled and rescheduled to then ncns.
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Old 11-10-2011, 10:39 AM   #20
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Uh if he flat out says an exact date and time, it's not an inquiry...it's a freaking appt! If she says, I "might" like to see you at such and such a time, that is an inquiry.

I don't list a phone number and I don't waste much time with people who can't make up their minds or have busy schedules. If you don't know when you are available, don't email me until you DO know...really, what's the point? I don't have the time to screen someone for nothing and I won't hold onto their info. to remember them later.

Nothing you can really do about it, other than to not deal with certain bs clients. The signs are pretty simple to read. All the ones who expect you to be their cyber gf for a week, see ya! I don't get paid to play on facebook or IM!
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Old 11-10-2011, 04:43 PM   #21
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If I send an email to my massage therapist asking if she's available tomorrow at 10am, it's only an INQUIRY regardless of the method employed to ask the question. If she responds positively, that's great... HOWEVER, no appointment is booked until I say "great, I'll be there", after hearing back from her.

If I don't respond (life having gotten in the way and all), I'll agree that it's somewhat rude.... however, the massage therapist would be getting ahead of herself if she thought an appointment was booked simply because I asked about a specific time.

I'm the customer, and I'm under no obligation to attend an appointment simply because I inquired about a time being available. Same goes in this industry.

Scheduling is a 3 step process:

1. Inquiry by client
2. Positive response by provider
3. Confirmation by client

Lots of providers skip Step 3, and then cry NC/NS.

The client doesn't know he's done anything wrong, because he hasn't.

It's a major problem in the community, and the source of probably 70% (or more) NC/NS reported by providers.

Ladies, please do not consider ANY client to be scheduled unless Step 3 has taken place.... because the clients don't consider it scheduled unless Step 3 has taken place. Save yourself the headache.

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Old 11-10-2011, 04:55 PM   #22
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Agree with Gina...and that's exactly what I said. IF they do more than ask for a time, but it's agreed on by both parties, that's a date! If you have him saying in print, "I will see you tomorrow at 11" and he still does not call to confirm, that's fked up being he flat out said he would be there.

Too many providers think someone just contacting them about a day and time means the client will follow through...not at all.
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Old 11-10-2011, 05:39 PM   #23
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I give plenty of them because I am very busy in RL and it is difficult to try to type a novel from my iphone or cheap boost phone text. If you get a one-liner, it is because you (not you, necessarily, lol) didn't provide information as I requested in my advertising. Once all the formalities are out of the way, I am happy to and enjoy having further discussions with potential clients.

In addition, all ladies have a preferred contact method, so if you are getting one-liners it may be because she is busy but wanted to reply in a timely manner. Contrary to belief, we don't all sit by our phones or computers waiting for calls or e-mails. Smart phones take longer to communicate. It may be slow service areas or having to log on to my e-mail, only to see I have a PM on eccie. Then, I have to log on to eccie to read a request....get the picture?

With that being said, I DO understand that gents are in the same position, or even more difficult at times. Work, wife, kids..

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I suspect some--by no means all--preceived "time wasting" is an issue of perspective. I almost always start off contact with an e-mail or PM introducing myself, telling a bit about myself, saying the range of dates I expect to be in her area, and giving my references/P411/D-C info.

A significant part of my decision process is how she responds. A no-reply will end my interest right there. A one-line form responce will likely do the same. A personalized responce will usually cause me to pursue setting up a date. Unfortunately my work schedule is not always my own and so I sometimes don't actually get there, and have to cancel (at least a day's notice, usually a few days notice).

Most ladies are understanding, but I have been scolded as a time waster for not following through after my one introductory e-mail, and for having to cancel/eschedule because my business trip didn't happen. In my world view, that is not time wasting, but some ladies do consider it such. The English language is filled with ill defined terms.
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Old 11-10-2011, 06:03 PM   #24
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What annoys me is guys who gripe about providers taking forever to respond, and when I respond in less than an hour I am waiting 12 hours for them to do so lol. WTF..you want a date or not? If I am touring, I am not waiting 12 hours for a guy to get back to me...see ya! I am already booked with someone who got back to me before then. It goes both ways, and something you can't really avoid. Just get better at stopping bs before it gets out of hand is all.

Old_T you my man at least tell them this "could" happen beforehand. Most guys don't, and it's like wtf..why bother with a provider who is only in town for 2 days if you KNOW you could get called out of town. Just don't contact her!
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Dear posting whores, our next subject will be cyber girlfriends and timewasting BS.
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Old 11-10-2011, 08:24 PM   #26
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lol ....you are so hilarious darling.....this is an interesting discussion on timewasting clients ...I think its time to restructure my screening process for the new year.
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Old 11-20-2011, 06:19 AM   #27
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Great subject!
My favorite time wasters are usually drunk at the keyboards...LOL...they talk big of things and then the next day is the hangover (what?, huh?) ...lol....you know the pattern well!!
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Old 11-22-2011, 05:23 PM   #28
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Right now, I've been suffering from providers that waiste time. In the last week, I've had 2 providers cancel apointments at the last moment. One provider, last night, waited 4 hours after the appointment only to cancel -- after asking for verification with things like pictures of my penis. I didn't give it to her..

I wish more providers ran their businesses with real business acumen. Often when I see a provider, I value things such as being discreet, getting to the point, and leaving with a good experience quicly.

Waisted time is a no-no..
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