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[texassapper]

The math on cancers... Of course there is still no explanation on why the actuals are higher than historical trend lines that haven't changed in decades... Still waiting for that plausible causal explanation.. lol.

[Tiny]

Originally Posted by texassapper

The math on cancers... Of course there is still no explanation on why the actuals are higher than historical trend lines that haven't changed in decades... Still waiting for that plausible causal explanation.. lol.

I just don't see it texassapper. Your source the Ethical Skeptic is pulling data from the CDC's Weekly Provisional Counts of Deaths by State and Select Causes. You can download the data in Excel format from January, 2020 to February 18, 2023 here,

https://data.cdc.gov/api/views/muzy-...ue&format=true

I'd disregard the last few weeks as additional data will be trickling in during weeks to come. Anyway deaths from malignant neoplasms have varied form 11,000 per week to 12,000 per week during the entire period, and I don't see any trend towards increased numbers of cancer deaths in excess of the increase in the population. You could divide by population and graph the data but I'm too lazy.

[Tiny]

Originally Posted by SpeedRacerXXX

Obviously my earlier statements on the VAERS databas went over your head. There is no cause and effect in the database.

"When evaluating data from VAERS, it is important to note that for any reported event, no cause-and-effect relationship has been established. Reports of all possible associations between vaccines and adverse events (possible side effects) are filed in VAERS. Therefore, VAERS collects data on any adverse event following vaccination, be it coincidental or truly caused by a vaccine. The report of an adverse event to VAERS is not documentation that a vaccine caused the event."

https://vaers.hhs.gov/data/dataguide.html

Regarding your chart on Covid cases in the U.K. Once again total BS on your part. But you will believe anything that supports your opinion. Do some research.

COVID: the reason cases are rising among the double vaccinated – it’s not because vaccines aren’t working

https://www.cebm.ox.ac.uk/news/views...n2019t-working

Yeah, I can't see any reason why the vaccines would cause cancer, which I believe is a good reason to believe the majority or most of VAERS deaths attributed to the COVID vaccine actually had nothing to do with the vaccine.

As to Why_Yes_I_Do's "Real World Covid Effectiveness" graph, I went back to the source, the UKSHA's COVID-19 vaccine surveillance report, Week 13:

https://assets.publishing.service.go...rt-week-13.pdf

Take a look at Tables 1, 2, 3 and 4 starting on page 8. They show the vaccines + boosters are effective at preventing hospitalization and death among all age groups, and particularly for older people.

[Why_Yes_I_Do]

Originally Posted by SpeedRacerXXX

Obviously my earlier statements on the VAERS databas went over your head. There is no cause and effect in the database...

That shit right there is why we only accept new members in to the Tin Foil Hat Society on a provisional basis. VAERS is estimated to only catch about 6% of cases as it is voluntary. Yet a sudden spike of 700% followed by 500% doesn't catch your eye. I rather doubt you'll make beyond the provisional level. But the bigger problem you have is losing your permanent membership in the TDS, TDS, Orange Man Bad, TDS, TDS club because you did not defend it with one or more of the indoctrinated tropes:

• Because Climate Change!
• It's misogynistic!
• It's rayyycist!
• Equity!
• Because Trump!

Surely your membership on the Mental Gymnastics team is still safe.

[Levianon17]

Originally Posted by Tiny

Yeah, I can't see any reason why the vaccines would cause cancer, which I believe is a good reason to believe the majority or most of VAERS deaths attributed to the COVID vaccine actually had nothing to do with the vaccine.

As to Why_Yes_I_Do's "Real World Covid Effectiveness" graph, I went back to the source, the UKSHA's COVID-19 vaccine surveillance report, Week 13:

https://assets.publishing.service.go...rt-week-13.pdf

Take a look at Tables 1, 2, 3 and 4 starting on page 8. They show the vaccines + boosters are effective at preventing hospitalization and death among all age groups, and particularly for older people.

It's happened before with Vaccines, what makes you think it's not happening now with the covid-19 Vaccine?


https://www.bitchute.com/video/5s9OPYKW7FA0/

[texassapper]

[texassapper]

Originally Posted by Tiny

I just don't see it texassapper. .....I don't see any trend towards increased numbers of cancer deaths in excess of the increase in the population. You could divide by population and graph the data but I'm too lazy.

LOL... You don't WANT to see it. That red line... thats the trend line with population growth Note the right hand side of the chart. Notice anything odd about the actuals data line in relationship to that trend line?

Nothing curious at ALL?

Are you just BLIND or pretending to be stupid?

Who dresses you in the morning? How do you feed yourself?

[texassapper]

[Levianon17]

Originally Posted by texassapper

Illinois Sen. Sean Casten's daughter Gwen died in her sleep.

https://wgntv.com/news/illinois-rep-...ughters-death/

[Tiny]

Originally Posted by texassapper

LOL... You don't WANT to see it. That red line... thats the trend line with population growth Note the right hand side of the chart. Notice anything odd about the actuals data line in relationship to that trend line?

Nothing curious at ALL?

Are you just BLIND or pretending to be stupid?

Who dresses you in the morning? How do you feed yourself?

The problem is that the white line is bull shit. Here are the CDC's provisional weekly deaths from malignant neoplasms, from the link I provided you.

1/4/2020 11,613
1/11/2020 11,962
1/18/2020 11,701
1/25/2020 11,879
2/1/2020 11,963
2/8/2020 11,704
2/15/2020 11,807
2/22/2020 11,780
2/29/2020 11,790
3/7/2020 11,712
3/14/2020 11,568
3/21/2020 11,732
3/28/2020 11,782
4/4/2020 11,592
4/11/2020 11,549
4/18/2020 11,210
4/25/2020 11,367
5/2/2020 11,097
5/9/2020 11,014
5/16/2020 11,269
5/23/2020 11,116
5/30/2020 10,903
6/6/2020 11,083
6/13/2020 11,130
6/20/2020 11,157
6/27/2020 11,356
7/4/2020 11,298
7/11/2020 11,333
7/18/2020 11,373
7/25/2020 11,553
8/1/2020 11,514
8/8/2020 11,529
8/15/2020 11,703
8/22/2020 11,519
8/29/2020 11,576
9/5/2020 11,376
9/12/2020 11,468
9/19/2020 11,630
9/26/2020 11,863
10/3/2020 11,424
10/10/2020 11,829
10/17/2020 11,320
10/24/2020 11,677
10/31/2020 11,529
11/7/2020 11,808
11/14/2020 11,745
11/21/2020 11,633
11/28/2020 11,395
12/5/2020 11,358
12/12/2020 11,904
12/19/2020 11,781
12/26/2020 11,694
1/2/2021 11,694
1/9/2021 11,340
1/16/2021 11,852
1/23/2021 11,582
1/30/2021 11,694
2/6/2021 11,607
2/13/2021 11,489
2/20/2021 11,416
2/27/2021 11,615
3/6/2021 11,438
3/13/2021 11,417
3/20/2021 11,298
3/27/2021 11,425
4/3/2021 11,099
4/10/2021 11,570
4/17/2021 11,388
4/24/2021 11,581
5/1/2021 11,621
5/8/2021 11,362
5/15/2021 11,542
5/22/2021 11,601
5/29/2021 11,276
6/5/2021 11,497
6/12/2021 11,356
6/19/2021 11,532
6/26/2021 11,501
7/3/2021 11,581
7/10/2021 11,511
7/17/2021 11,581
7/24/2021 11,542
7/31/2021 11,652
8/7/2021 11,793
8/14/2021 11,996
8/21/2021 11,882
8/28/2021 11,780
9/4/2021 11,733
9/11/2021 11,534
9/18/2021 11,845
9/25/2021 11,743
10/2/2021 11,901
10/9/2021 11,746
10/16/2021 11,699
10/23/2021 11,752
10/30/2021 11,749
11/6/2021 11,710
11/13/2021 11,918
11/20/2021 11,650
11/27/2021 11,717
12/4/2021 11,863
12/11/2021 12,100
12/18/2021 11,672
12/25/2021 11,853
1/1/2022 11,673
1/8/2022 11,971
1/15/2022 12,269
1/22/2022 11,961
1/29/2022 11,915
2/5/2022 11,737
2/12/2022 11,820
2/19/2022 11,626
2/26/2022 11,241
3/5/2022 11,545
3/12/2022 11,498
3/19/2022 11,551
3/26/2022 11,405
4/2/2022 11,486
4/9/2022 11,421
4/16/2022 11,468
4/23/2022 11,310
4/30/2022 11,408
5/7/2022 11,255
5/14/2022 11,601
5/21/2022 11,660
5/28/2022 11,360
6/4/2022 11,337
6/11/2022 11,636
6/18/2022 11,198
6/25/2022 11,561
7/2/2022 11,652
7/9/2022 11,409
7/16/2022 11,464
7/23/2022 11,699
7/30/2022 11,634
8/6/2022 11,578
8/13/2022 11,672
8/20/2022 11,682
8/27/2022 11,539
9/3/2022 11,868
9/10/2022 11,550
9/17/2022 11,811
9/24/2022 11,820
10/1/2022 11,689
10/8/2022 11,879
10/15/2022 11,795
10/22/2022 11,694
10/29/2022 11,675
11/5/2022 11,906
11/12/2022 11,826
11/19/2022 11,948
11/26/2022 12,006
12/3/2022 11,844
12/10/2022 11,970
12/17/2022 11,956
12/24/2022 11,958
12/31/2022 11,891
1/7/2023 11,818
1/14/2023 11,625
1/21/2023 11,713
1/28/2023 11,159
2/4/2023 10,723
2/11/2023 10,062
2/18/2023 8,517

The white line on the graph shows deaths around 12,500 per week in January. Now it's entirely possible that after additional cancer deaths are reported, the January numbers will come up. I expect they will. But I don't believe the cancer death rate (cancer deaths as % of population) has changed substantially since the start of COVID. Maybe a little as a result of people not getting colonoscopies and the like though. We can check back in a few months, after all the data has trickled in, and see.

But that's probably not what the Ethical Dumb Shit was trying to show anyway. I looked over one of his seminal cancer/COVID pieces. He appears to think he's proved that the CDC is reclassifying deaths attributable to the COVID vaccines so that they look like deaths from COVID the disease. He's incredibly hard to follow and leans heavily on philosophical arguments and conspiracy theories. I think he may be Lyndon LaRouche, Jr. or L. Ron Hubbard reincarnated.

[SpeedRacerXXX]

Originally Posted by Levianon17

Illinois Sen. Sean Casten's daughter Gwen died in her sleep.

https://wgntv.com/news/illinois-rep-...ughters-death/

I can find little information on Amy Sedgwick's cause of death osther than a doctor's opinion that the Covid vaccinations did not cause it.

On the other hand, Gwen Casten's death was unrelated to Covid vaccinations.

"The truth is finally revealed – the cause of death for Gwen Casten was sudden heart failure caused by a cardiac arrhythmia, not the COVID-19 vaccine. As the Casten family pointed out – Gwen had regular check-ups and was healthy before her sudden death.

That tells us that she was not suffering from vaccine-related side effects like myocarditis or pericarditis, which would have left her breathless and fatigued, with chest pains, etc.

Despite what anti-vaccination activists claim, COVID-19 vaccines do not cause people to suddenly die in their sleep."

https://www.techarp.com/facts/gwen-c...-sudden-death/

Unfortunately, anti-vaxxers are going to believe any such incident that supports their POV, independent of the facts of the case.

[SpeedRacerXXX]

Originally Posted by texassapper

Neither safe nor effective.

So now you believe that Ramsay Hunt Syndrome, a rare neurological disorder that paralyzes the facial nerve and can abruptly take away a person's ability to blink, smile or raise an eyebrow on one side of their face, is caused by Covid vaccinations?

[SpeedRacerXXX]

Originally Posted by Why_Yes_I_Do

Q) What is the difference between tin foil hat conspiracies and widely accepted truth?

A) About 18-24 months

Some recent headlines:

• France stops covid injections for all but the "most vulnerable" in the population
• Deaths in Singapore hit record 60-year highs after the rollout of covid injections
• 8x more people died due to C-19 Vaccination over 6 months than died of COVID-19 over 18 months according to UK GOV.
• New US Medicare data show COVID Vaccination INCREASES your risk of dying
• UK Gov. secretly confirms Triple+ Vaccinated accounted for 92% of COVID Deaths in 2022

It would be nice if you would supply links to the actual articles rather than just a headline. In all cases, the facts behind the headlines explain why. I did a one minute search and found data that totally refutes the last claim:

https://www.reuters.com/article/fact...-idUSL2N2VK15E

[Levianon17]

Originally Posted by SpeedRacerXXX

I can find little information on Amy Sedgwick's cause of death osther than a doctor's opinion that the Covid vaccinations did not cause it.

On the other hand, Gwen Casten's death was unrelated to Covid vaccinations.

"The truth is finally revealed – the cause of death for Gwen Casten was sudden heart failure caused by a cardiac arrhythmia, not the COVID-19 vaccine. As the Casten family pointed out – Gwen had regular check-ups and was healthy before her sudden death.

That tells us that she was not suffering from vaccine-related side effects like myocarditis or pericarditis, which would have left her breathless and fatigued, with chest pains, etc.

Despite what anti-vaccination activists claim, COVID-19 vaccines do not cause people to suddenly die in their sleep."

https://www.techarp.com/facts/gwen-c...-sudden-death/

Unfortunately, anti-vaxxers are going to believe any such incident that supports their POV, independent of the facts of the case.

You're assuming a lot. Your assertion that Gwen Casten's death had nothing to do with the vaccine has no medical basis. A Cardiac Arrhythmia in a young seemingly healthy individual with no known Cardiac problems would require some sort of trigger such as Alcohol, Tobacco (high amounts of Nicotine), OTC drugs, Prescription Meds, Illegal Recreational drugs and even a Viral illness. Only a toxicology report would be able to determine what that trigger would have been to send her heart into arrhythmia. The presence of a vaccine with any of it's contents could easily be a contributing factor.

[Tiny]

Originally Posted by SpeedRacerXXX

I can find little information on Amy Sedgwick's cause of death osther than a doctor's opinion that the Covid vaccinations did not cause it.

On the other hand, Gwen Casten's death was unrelated to Covid vaccinations.

"The truth is finally revealed – the cause of death for Gwen Casten was sudden heart failure caused by a cardiac arrhythmia, not the COVID-19 vaccine. As the Casten family pointed out – Gwen had regular check-ups and was healthy before her sudden death.

That tells us that she was not suffering from vaccine-related side effects like myocarditis or pericarditis, which would have left her breathless and fatigued, with chest pains, etc.

Despite what anti-vaccination activists claim, COVID-19 vaccines do not cause people to suddenly die in their sleep."

https://www.techarp.com/facts/gwen-c...-sudden-death/

Unfortunately, anti-vaxxers are going to believe any such incident that supports their POV, independent of the facts of the case.

Well, my girlfriend attributes the recent deaths of 14 friends and acquaintances to the vaccine. It's like she believes everyone she knows who dies died from the vaccine. Which is crazy.