Have Clients Spoilt Your Relationships With Other Men?

[Sisyphus]

Yeah...that's right. Someone who has been around long enough to know better bumped an old thread. Point me...sue me...at this point, I really don't fuck a give.... It struck me as interesting, once finally discovered.

Originally Posted by Chloe Kensington

I was just thinking, sometimes as companions we get such royal treatment from clients that it's hard to consider other men.

And I assume clients get such royal treatment that it's hard to consider 'regular' women.

A case in point is someone I met from here - enjoyed such fabulous days, including limo service and Dom Perignon and way more pleasures than I'm going to list here - you know who you are! Terribly guilty as charged. How wonderful!

Presently I live in Miami where there are lots of young hot men for the taking but sadly they just don't tend to have any class, any knowledge of how to really treat a woman - whether they're rich or poor.

I think the relationships between escorts and clients sometimes set a very good example for the relationships we want in the rest of our lives. The sexiness, the intensity, the extravagance, the protocol, can all be great.

What do you think? What are your experiences? I kind of feel that in some odd ways this situation raises the bar for both clients and companions alike.

Which in real life can be somewhat difficult...

Chloe Kensington xxx

Shame on me for taking so long to notice this, Chloe! Begging your pardon for popping so late on something that is so relevant from time to time.

I can't speak for the gals but I've had such wonderful experiences in this thing of ours that those experiences have definitely helped me crystalize what I would want from any RW/Civvie relationship going forward. Dunno if they've 'raised the bar' as much as provided me with the confidence to 'stand my ground' as to my MLA.

While it's rude to answer a question with a question...I shall. What was it that made the experience 'royal' to you? Was it that the guy in question (lucky bastard!) splashed some cash on something above & beyond your valuable time & companionship? Or....was it that you hit if off with the guy & genuinely enjoyed yourself? You discovered the two of you shared...a gift of gab...you like the same food or music...shared a dance?? Or, is was it some combination of both of those things? If so, how much does the meter need to be in favor of the former vs. the latter to make it all happen?

Figure that out & you will have answered your own questions & solved the riddle of Miami men (be they young or old, rich or poor) all at the same time. If the money is a deal breaker...be honest about that. You will have saved yourself...& the lucky young men of Miami a LOT of time. If it's the money AND the connection...the search gets a lot tougher BUT, the filter makes the elimination process MUCH easier. It's much faster (& perhaps, more just) to separate a potential 'Mr. Right' from a 'Mr. Right-Now' if you know exactly what you're looking for.

Originally Posted by radarlove

This is a hobby and not the next Pretty Women movie!

Absolutely!! Still, that doesn't mean that two people who got the NAC bonus of actually enjoying themselves during the course of their business transaction can't discover little truths about themselves along the way....

Originally Posted by bladtinzu

Royal treatment? What fool does this?

The fool who plans to give himself the royal treatment anyway & decides it's even more fun to bring somebody else fun along for the ride....

Originally Posted by bladtinzu

No.. Women are disposable so not at all.

Everyone has their own perception of the truth. Awful tough to 'talk' anyone out of their own POV. I'll simply say we part company on this point.

Women are like snowflakes to me. NO two are alike. I can find something to dig about damn near all of them!

Originally Posted by bladtinzu

Dom? The guy has shitty taste at best buying that cheap swill..

If the lady has expressed a preference for it....& the guy is indifferent....from a taste or $$$ perspective, where's the harm? If the gal has expressed a preference to be enlightened on the art of Champagne...perhaps the guy takes a different tact.

My experience has been...trying to drop knowledge on one who doesn't wish enlightenment is merely a buzz kill for both!

Originally Posted by bladtinzu

See the above.. Women/humans are disposable.. Acknowledge and move on..

Already addressed. Ibid.

Originally Posted by bladtinzu

It is a business plain and simple. Anyone who thinks it isn't is nothing more than a fool and a dreamer and has no business in this business at all..

Again, IMO, you 'get' the truth...but miss the nuance. It doesn't sound like the OP has anything remotely related to a 'crush' on the guy in question. Rather, she's discovered a 'truth' about herself from one part of her life that has application elsewhere. Where's the harm in that?

Originally Posted by bladtinzu

If it raises the bar... Sorry I just cannot fathom the gross ineptitude that goes with that one statement. I am quite sure all the married guys who see escorts because their SO just fucking sucks as a wife has bettered that relationship by seeing escorts. The fact is escorts are way cheaper than divorce.....

Depends upon the circumstance. If,

M = the number of married guys who see escorts; &,
N = the number of reasons married guys see escorts.

My money is on,

N > M, for a couple of reasons. First, people are people. Most of us have our own reason for anything. Second, the decision for a married guy to see an escort is a complicated one. My experience has been that complicated decisions are rarely reached for only one reason.

But, thanks for doing your very best to speak for all married men.

Originally Posted by Chloe Kensington

I've heard that's the case with a lot of men.

In my case it's martinis but thankfully I have guy friends I hang out with and after they've bought me a couple of martinis and whatever (food) they know for sure I'm not going home with them. They still appreciate the company and I appreciate theirs!

Yes they do make it known they'd like things to go further, but they know that's not the way it's going to go.

Chloe Kensington xxx

And THAT would be the interesting part of the dilemma... Those same guys who are cool enough to keep you in grub & martinis...KNOWING its NOT enough to get you in bed with them....might be JUST the guys to give you the 'royal treatment' you seem to be looking for in your RW relationships.

My nickel's worth of free....say 'yes' to one of them & see what happens. You might be pleasantly surprised!

Originally Posted by Chloe Kensington

I like this.

As in; "Are you f---ing kidding me??? (I can get treated a lot better than this and paid for it too...)"

I'm sure that's been the lament of many a beautiful, funny, talented gal. The 'problem'...at least as I see it?? The lack of follow through. It's one thing to say you won't tolerate poor treatment. It's quite another to actually vote with one's feet...

Originally Posted by desufnoc

I am right there with ya Anti.I too was always the "nice guy" getting shit on all the time.I have been tired of it.Yes,I would like to find someone,but its really tough.Yes,hobbying has affected nearly everything about dating.Some good,some maybe notso good.I am one who tries to treat all people how I would like to be treatede,be they provider or "civy" girl.

The 'Golden Rule' is still golden, IMO. The hobbying can fuck up a gents take on....

1. The approach
2. The dance
3. The filter
4. The alignment

But, that only happens if we let it.... In the end, RW relationships are still about you get what you give. If you're not getting what you're giving...move on down the line. If you're not giving but expect to be getting...don't be surprised when all you get...is kicked to the curb.

[John Bull]

Sisyphus times change and rules are modified so I'll take this opportunity to let all know that bumping a thread, once verboten on many Boards including this one, is no longer a sin. We do hope that the reason for bumping a thread is that there is something interesting to add to the conversation, though. As you have done with this one, certainly.

[London Rayne]

Not in any way whatsoever. I don't view clients as anything but NSA, which only allows me to invest sexual emotions, but not real emotions. A married man paying to fk me, would never spoil a relationship based on true love, regardless of how much money he spends. Money is not what makes me shake in the real world. I can make my own.

Kill me too, because I bumped an old thread. I thought it was, for once, a topic that has not been done to death. Thanks Chloe!

[RoxanneReynolds]

Yes!!! I've been single for 4 years, only been a provider for a little over a year and sometimes I make an attempt to date someone on the side. Last time was the last..... I think. After I realize how boring and bleh and possessive these guys are (not to mention they all say they will NEVER pay for sex) I tell them stories about my slaves. That usually spoils any relationship with them.

[bladtinzu]

Originally Posted by Sisyphus

The only truth I want is her to STFU and get me off so I can get outta there

The fool who plans to give himself the royal treatment anyway & decides it's even more fun to bring somebody else fun along for the ride....

It is all about me.. If I actually gave a shit about anyone else I would "bring them along" yet in this hobby I could care a less. It is business not some friendship illusion..

Everyone has their own perception of the truth. Awful tough to 'talk' anyone out of their own POV. I'll simply say we part company on this point.

Duh


Women are like snowflakes to me. NO two are alike. I can find something to dig about damn near all of them!

To a point.. But my interest is used up after an hour or so

If the lady has expressed a preference for it....& the guy is indifferent....from a taste or $$$ perspective, where's the harm? If the gal has expressed a preference to be enlightened on the art of Champagne...perhaps the guy takes a different tact.

Can't help if she has an untrained pallet and shitty taste because some rap song said it was good

My experience has been...trying to drop knowledge on one who doesn't wish enlightenment is merely a buzz kill for both!

Not really.. Might be for them but I can entertain myself at their expense


Already addressed. Ibid.



Again, IMO, you 'get' the truth...but miss the nuance. It doesn't sound like the OP has anything remotely related to a 'crush' on the guy in question. Rather, she's discovered a 'truth' about herself from one part of her life that has application elsewhere. Where's the harm in that?

50/50 and the above/under on it is a bitch

Depends upon the circumstance. If,

M = the number of married guys who see escorts; &,
N = the number of reasons married guys see escorts.

My money is on,

N > M, for a couple of reasons. First, people are people. Most of us have our own reason for anything. Second, the decision for a married guy to see an escort is a complicated one. My experience has been that complicated decisions are rarely reached for only one reason.

But, thanks for doing your very best to speak for all married men.

Mine when I was married was easy.. Strange pussy is strange pussy. Simple solution to playing the dating game was escorts. Now I am single I could care a less.. Even just found out today I am banging some chick who I knew was married but she brought up she just found links to an escort website on the home computer browser history. And it is this site.. So sorry guy whoever you are.. Your wife quit going down on you eons ago because you disgust her..

didn't feel like multi-quote so deal with it in red

[Lhornbk]

Any man would be very lucky to be Roxanne's slave and have a chance to worship her. Those boring, possessive guys should have offered to become her slaves too.

[alex_reece]

Oddly enough, this hobby has actually boosted my confidence, and social communication with women. Sparing you lot the details, I'm a nerd, and haven't been with women a lot early in my life as supposed to other males. Since starting, I'm finding it easier to break the ice and get to know beautiful women and overall. Able to carry a conversation longer, and to not feel so intimidated and enjoy myself around them. It sounds weird, but after seeing quite a few gorgeous women naked, my eye contact with women has also improved. No longer a creep and now, just a guy who is just genuinely interested in getting to know a person.

We'll see how things turn out in regards to dating, but after listening to, and reading a lot of horror stories, at the very least, I know not to take her for granted.

[HuhWhat6]

My participation in this hobby is infrequent but there is one thing I have learned: Intimacy is intimacy however the agreement is made. I will always have respect for the woman before me. She is not just warming up a bowl of soup in the microwave, she's allowing you to share a delicate closeness if only briefly. For those fretting about how these meetings affect the rest of their lives: May we all just find a little happiness.

[jbravo_123]

Originally Posted by alex_reece

Oddly enough, this hobby has actually boosted my confidence, and social communication with women. Sparing you lot the details, I'm a nerd, and haven't been with women a lot early in my life as supposed to other males. Since starting, I'm finding it easier to break the ice and get to know beautiful women and overall. Able to carry a conversation longer, and to not feel so intimidated and enjoy myself around them. It sounds weird, but after seeing quite a few gorgeous women naked, my eye contact with women has also improved. No longer a creep and now, just a guy who is just genuinely interested in getting to know a person.

We'll see how things turn out in regards to dating, but after listening to, and reading a lot of horror stories, at the very least, I know not to take her for granted.

Good for you, dude!

I bet it's also somewhat liberating to also know that if some lady in real life is a complete pain in the ass to you, you can always just come here and get a great experience with one of the ladies!

[internet_inventor2]

Originally Posted by jbravo_123

Good for you, dude!

I bet it's also somewhat liberating to also know that if some lady in real life is a complete pain in the ass to you, you can always just come here and get a great experience with one of the ladies!

Jb, that's all it is you hit the nail on the head. Once many discover the hobby they basically stop putting with crap they used to. Sad part is though, instead of working through issues and differences to make a rw/civvie relationship work, many just run back here. If you can't discern the difference, you'll never find your soul mate, real relationship or whatever.

Man, a lot of you must have had so bad relationships and/or pic losers to date........ or just difficult to deal with yourself .....

[Buddy G]

There's a lot of great insight in here but I think some of it is vastly missing the mark. Let's face it: pussy is one of the most valuable commodities on the planet. This is why women typically get a pass in life. They look sexy, find a rich guy, get married and pop out a couple kids. That's how it's been since the beginning of time. Men work, women produce babies. Feminists will argue that but the truth is a woman's value is tied to her vagina because men want a beautiful woman to have their kids. So it works in the women's favor. Women have it good in that sense. Now, hookers take it to a whole other level and get paid to fuck. The oldest profession around because men will always get tired of smashing the same piece of ass and will want to bang some strange once in awhile (or on the regs). Again, this works out good for the women because they get paid as much or more than doctors for their "services" - which is really just being human and banging away (and most of them are boring as shit even doing that). The real challenge for providers, IMHO, is when they get fat or old and their looks go. It's inevitable for everyone. Then the cash cow which has magically been there for them disappears. But the problem is they are used to men paying them to fuck, buying them dinner, drinks, basically falling over themselves for these women. But once that attention goes away, where does the income come from? Most providers aren't engineers in their spare time. The key is to find a rich guy before the looks go. Really the same as all other women, but after making making so much money off their body for so long, the shock of reality is much greater for a provider when she realizes she can't earn a living without fucking for money. This is why you see so many providers "retire" an then return because they realize making $12 an hour is a joke compared to banging a few dudes a week and traveling. I don't blame beautiful women for making that choice at all. It's how the world works and dont hate the player, hate the game. Point being, yes relationships with clients/providers are definitely different from civil relationships but the real challenge is for the provider to find sustence on her own later in life (if she doesn't marry a rich guy).

[Guest121917-1]

I would have to say it has not ruined "regular" men for me. However, with that being said I do believe my clients have helped me have higher expectations I'm how I am treated. ♥

[Zabrina Sarafina]

I think it is a different kind of thrill you get from reg bfs/dating and guys from hobby world.

I love how the reg guys are so innocent, see you as so innocent, and how they live such a reg life. That appeals to me, keeps me grounded

And of course I love the hobby guys because they know this other side of me, understand and appreciate it

[ICU 812]

The providers that I have seen have sure spoiled me for real-world dating. We both know each "date" will end and the provider isn't expecting me to be interesting (helps) or a catch or even expect that I will satisfy her (I'm older and a low performer).

Any woman who is real-world datable will compare me to her ex-husband(s) and have expectations for the future. In a real-world context: Why would I see a woman in her fifties (no matter how good looking "for her agte") when I can see someone 20-35 who I know will make me feel like a king for a day?

[~Arriana Grey~]

I believe in a way SOME have...OTHERS have made me appreciate what/WHO I have at home...some are such gentlemen that I start expecting the same from an S.O...and if I dont get that treatment, I automatically start thinkin "I can do better..."

Then I have the "not so gentlemen" gentlemen that make me wonder WHY do I even bother if they LIKE me or NOT, THEY SUCK and I get to go home to a hott stud that treats me like a queen.?!?

Guess it's how you see it, latelt I've had some less than favorable reviews that are placed by men that need a MIRROR and NEED to understand the psychology of this TYPE of lifestyle.

YES. I LIKE to sleep at night. Yes, I also love men. Yes, I have relationships with women, NO I AM NOT perfect BUT Hott damn have some of THESE guys taken a look at themselves and wondered: " I wonder WHO'S relationship I have completely spoiled bc I'm such a douchebag, my hygeine makes a german shepard look attractive, and I think that bc my $$$ is fat (and I look like I'm about to deliver twins) then I can have whatever girl I want AND they better be perfect"

No fellas. No. I have my CLIENTS WHOM I LALALALOVE and I feel that YOU do somewhat "spoil" my relationships with my man bc YOU ARE SO DAMN SWEET AND GENTLEMAN-LIKE even when we...well you know

The other ones, take it with a grain of salt BUT you will get treated how you treat us, and no amount of $$$ will make a GOOD provider say "oh yea, he was pretty fucked up towards me, he treated me less than what I deserve AND he was a MESS, I'd LOVE TO SEE him again!"

No good provider who's NOT on crack would say that.

Just a thought.

Carry on

XoXo