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Old 07-28-2021, 04:18 PM   #1
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What is your point of view in making the non vaccinated, where mask indoors in public buildings?
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Old 07-28-2021, 04:35 PM   #2
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I'm in favor. I don't particularly like to get the flu, or covid... so I'm in favor.



Vaccine does not mean immunity, nor does it mean that you can't spread it if you get it.
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Old 07-28-2021, 04:54 PM   #3
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I'm in favor. I don't particularly like to get the flu, or covid... so I'm in favor.



Vaccine does not mean immunity, nor does it mean that you can't spread it if you get it.
Then why shouldn’t vaccinated people wear them? The Democrats that fled Texas to DC didn’t wear masks on the flight. They said they were all vaccinated. 8 of them got COVID. Which begs the question, why get vaccinated? I don’t think masks do much. Especially the ones 99% of the population uses. Besides, unless you’re older with pre-existing conditions your chance of survival is over 99%.
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Then why shouldn’t vaccinated people wear them? The Democrats that fled Texas to DC didn’t wear masks on the flight. They said they were all vaccinated. 8 of them got COVID. Which begs the question, why get vaccinated? I don’t think masks do much. Especially the ones 99% of the population uses. Besides, unless you’re older with pre-existing conditions your chance of survival is over 99%.
I agree everyone should wear a mask,(in side) until this is under control, it's just like smoking indoors. ban in most settings because of harm to others.
Masks have been shown to stop "germs" for decades but you are entitle to your opinion, Ill trust the science.
Why get vaccinated? Because 99% of death now occurring are to non vaccinated people. Your chance of not getting sick is over 90%, which means your chance of spreading it is less then 10 %. By your owe number, approximately 1 health person in 100 will die because of getting covid. I don't think they are great odds







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Old 07-28-2021, 09:48 PM   #5
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I agree everyone should wear a mask,(in side) until this is under control, it's just like smoking indoors. ban in most settings because of harm to others.
Masks have been shown to stop "germs" for decades but you are entitle to your opinion, Ill trust the science.
Why get vaccinated? Because 99% of death now occurring are to non vaccinated people. Your chance of not getting sick is over 90%, which means your chance of spreading it is less then 10 %. By your owe number, approximately 1 health person in 100 will die because of getting covid. I don't think they are great odds







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You have a 99% of survival without the vaccine. Actually it’s not a vaccine. It’s not FDA approved. It’s labeled as experimental. Thousands have died from the injection and can cause severe side effects. If you’re under 65 and healthy, why take it?
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Old 07-28-2021, 10:45 PM   #6
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Unless you are properly wearing an N95 mask, the mask does little to protect you. So why wear it? Because while your mask doesn't protect you, it does reduce the spread by protecting everyone you come in contact with. Not completely, but it does add protection.. If you choose not to wear one, you are just being an asshole because you don't care about getting other people sick. I hate wearing a mask and haven't been wearing one for months. But I will now. Not because I'm worried about getting sick, but because I could be a carrier and I'm not an asshole who doesn't care if he gets other people sick. Before all you this started, do you remember that guy at the office that comes in to work and sounds like he's coughing up a lung? Then he sits next to you in the conference room and coughs all over you? Two days later you are sick as a dog and can't get out of bed? Yeah, he's an asshole for not staying home when he was sick. The difference here is that you could be sick and have zero symptoms. So you can either be the guy who doesn't care if he makes other people sick or you can wear a mask - not for you, but for everyone around you.

Why get the vaccine? Because the vaccine is the way out of the endless cycle of variants, full hospitals, and some form of restrictions on businesses. If it were up to me, hospitals should have the right to turn away anyone who gets Covid and chose not to get vaccinated. Why should they have take care of you if you aren't willing to take care of yourself? Sure, you may not die. You may only spend a month or two on life support and another 6 months recovering. Your choice you say? Sure, it's your choice. But, in making that choice you are inflating the cost of healthcare and my insurance cost is going to go because of it. And you are putting at risk the health care workers that you expect to take care of you when you get sick. And when you do get sick and need meds so you don't end up in that 1% of people who die, you are going take Remdesivir-- which has the same emergency approval status as the vaccine that you refuse to take.

Finally, the best reason to take the vaccine -- because you aren't a socialist. If the virus continues at the pace its going the Government is going to have to continue to shell out money to help people who get sick and people who have lost jobs. It's expensive and will cause much higher taxes. So if you refuse the vaccine you are encouraging the government to implement higher taxes and spread that money out to people who aren't working. If all adults in the US would just get the damn vaccine, the risk would be next to zero and our economy would come roaring back. You've got two options. Choose to refuse the vaccine and support a socialist society. Or get the vaccine and be a support a free enterprise market economy America. It's a free county - you make the choice.
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Old 07-28-2021, 11:18 PM   #7
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^^ Free country? Do as the government tells you? Take an experimental jab that can kill you? You can still contract/transmit COVID if you’re vaccinated. Doesn’t sound like freedom to me. Sounds like Tyranny.
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Old 07-28-2021, 11:20 PM   #8
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Ridiculous to mandate across the board. The vaccine is out there for the elderly or have immune disease. If you don’t have it and get badly sick it’s on you. I realize it’s not perfect but it greatly reduces your chance of dying. No masks unless you want to.
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Old 07-29-2021, 05:14 AM   #9
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Then why shouldn’t vaccinated people wear them? The Democrats that fled Texas to DC didn’t wear masks on the flight. They said they were all vaccinated. 8 of them got COVID. Which begs the question, why get vaccinated? I don’t think masks do much. Especially the ones 99% of the population uses. Besides, unless you’re older with pre-existing conditions your chance of survival is over 99%.

Imagine you know, for a fact, 100% chance that you are going to be in a firefight with people shooting guns. You have the option of wearing a bullet proof vest, or not.


There are a few things that can happen...


1. You can go in and there is a chance you don't get shot at all. Conclusion? Guns can't kill people, anyone who gets killed by a bullet are Russian fake news fucks.


2. You can go in without the vest and only get a grazing flesh wound, but otherwise suffer no consequences. Conclusion? Who the fuck dies from guns, it only caused a little bit of bleeding. Pull yourself up from the bootstraps you sissy.


3. You go in and take one step before a bullet pierces your heart. You die crying asking them to put a bullet proof vest on you. Conclusion? You dead.



4. You wear a bullet proof vest. You miraculously don't get hit. Conclusion? Why did you even take the risk of a vest in the first place? Fake news


5. You wear a bullet proof vest. You get shot in the chest. You have the wind knocked out of you and might lose your footing, but you aren't dead. Gee it is sure a good thing you had this on or you'd be receiving thoughts and prayers like number 3


6. You wear a bullet proof vest. You get shot in the chest, and the legs, and arms. You are hurt, but are otherwise not suffering a mortal wound.





Another analogy..


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Old 07-29-2021, 07:32 AM   #10
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Imagine you know, for a fact, 100% chance that you are going to be in a firefight with people shooting guns. You have the option of wearing a bullet proof vest, or not.


There are a few things that can happen...


1. You can go in and there is a chance you don't get shot at all. Conclusion? Guns can't kill people, anyone who gets killed by a bullet are Russian fake news fucks.


2. You can go in without the vest and only get a grazing flesh wound, but otherwise suffer no consequences. Conclusion? Who the fuck dies from guns, it only caused a little bit of bleeding. Pull yourself up from the bootstraps you sissy.


3. You go in and take one step before a bullet pierces your heart. You die crying asking them to put a bullet proof vest on you. Conclusion? You dead.



4. You wear a bullet proof vest. You miraculously don't get hit. Conclusion? Why did you even take the risk of a vest in the first place? Fake news


5. You wear a bullet proof vest. You get shot in the chest. You have the wind knocked out of you and might lose your footing, but you aren't dead. Gee it is sure a good thing you had this on or you'd be receiving thoughts and prayers like number 3


6. You wear a bullet proof vest. You get shot in the chest, and the legs, and arms. You are hurt, but are otherwise not suffering a mortal wound.





Another analogy..


Let’s say you wore an experimental vest, not fully tested, and it didn’t stop the bullet and you died?
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Old 07-29-2021, 09:04 AM   #11
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The fact is the vaccines are almost 99% effective in lowering symptoms of the virus. None of the vaccines give you 100% immunity. They make it so that if you DO get the virus you are more likely to not need to go to the hospital, and you are slightly less contagious.



What the vaccine does, is it raises your resistance to it.

A vaccinated person is much less likely to get it from another vaccinated, but infected and contagious person.

A vaccinated person is more likely to get it from an UNvaccinated, infected, and contagious person.




The point of the vaccine is not to make it so that you can go DFK with someone who is contagious and be fine, it is so that you can go out into public and share air with potentially contagious people, and IF you get the virus, you aren't going to need to be on a ventilator.



The point of the mask isn't to restrict your freedom and be branded a slave, it is so that it is more difficult to spread the virus (either from you to other people, or other people to you) so that you can greatly lower the chance that someone who CAN'T take the vaccine gets exposed to the virus.
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Old 07-29-2021, 11:06 AM   #12
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I think it’s time to let people make their own decisions. By now we all know the risks one way or another, and Covid is never “going away”, so we can’t continue this on-and-off mask mandating etc. Having to be told what to do, like children, is ridiculous and getting old.
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Old 07-29-2021, 11:29 AM   #13
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The FDA announced today that the CDC PCR test for COVID-19 has failed its full review.
Its Emergency Use Authorization has been REVOKED.
It is a Class I recall. The most serious type of recall.
Too many false POSITIVES!
This is the test that started the pandemic.
The test used in all the nursing homes in Washington and New York.
This was the ONLY test in use until May of 2020. THE VACCINE CAUSES THE DELTA VARIANT! THIS IS THE SINGLE MOST HORRIFIC CRIME AGAINST HUMANITY SINCE THE DAWN OF MANKIND.

https://www.fda.gov/medical-devices/...isk-false-test
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Old 07-29-2021, 11:30 AM   #14
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​​Covid vaccines from Pfizer destroy every system of the human body

The Israeli People Committee (IPC), a citizen-led group of Israeli health experts, has issued an urgent warning that the Wuhan coronavirus (Covid-19) “vaccine” from Pfizer damages virtually every system of the human body.

While much of the attention, at least in Europe, has centered around the AstraZeneca jab, which is linked to deadly blood clots, the Pfizer injection is actually far more dangerous and a much bigger threat, based on the latest data.

A detailed report released by the IPC warns that getting jabbed with a Pfizer syringe could lead to a catastrophic health outcome, as evidenced by the high number of people who have already had their lives ruined by it in Israel.

“There has never been a vaccine that has harmed as many people,” the report explains. “We received 288 death reports in proximity to vaccination (90% up to 10 days after the vaccination), 64% of those were men.”

The Israeli Ministry of Health, meanwhile, is claiming that only 45 people in Israel have died from the Pfizer injection. This is a gross undercount that minimizes the true deadly impact of the jabs.

If the figures contained in the IPC report are valid, then more Israelis have died from the Pfizer shot than have Europeans from the AstraZeneca shot throughout the entirety of Europe.

“According to Central Bureau of Statistics data during January-February 2021, at the peak of the Israeli mass vaccination campaign, there was a 22% increase in overall mortality in Israel compared with the previous year,” the report further warns.

“In fact, January-February 2021 have been the deadliest months in the last decade, with the highest overall mortality rates compared to corresponding months in the last 10 years.”

Younger people are dying most from the Pfizer jab

The most affected demographic seems to be younger people between the ages of 20-29, which saw the most dramatic increase in mortality post-release of the Pfizer vaccine.

“In this age group, we detect an increase of 32% in overall mortality in comparison with previous year,” the report states.

“Statistical analysis of information from the Central Bureau of Statistics, combined with information from the Ministry of Health, leads to the conclusion that the mortality rate amongst the vaccinated is estimated at about 1: 5000 (1: 13000 at ages 20-49, 1: 6000 at ages 50-69, 1: 1600 at ages 70+).”

Based on this data, the IPC estimates that as many as 1,100 Israelis have died thus far from the Pfizer injection. Older people die the soonest, usually less than three days post-injection, while younger people typically live for more than a week post-injection before passing away.

The IPC further found that the risk of mortality goes parabolic after the second injection. Those who stop with the first shot have a much greater chance of living than if they go in for the second round.

As for the injuries caused by the injections, the IPC found that cardiac events such as myositis and pericarditis are common. The same goes for massive vaginal bleeding, neurological damage, and damage to the skeletal and skin systems.

“It should be noted that a significant number of reports of side effects are related, directly or indirectly, to Hypercoagulability (infarction), Myocardial infarction, stroke, miscarriages, impaired blood flow to the limbs, pulmonary embolism,” the group contends.

The full report from the IPC is available for viewing at this link.

“These mRNA vaccines contain a virus which then attaches to the RNA (the messenger) of man’s DNA which can never be undone,” warned one commenter at Great Game India.

“This means that the RNA / messenger will always carry a virus; the very one they inject into the body!”

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Experimental test, experimental vaccine, what possibly go wrong?
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Old 07-29-2021, 11:38 AM   #15
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Wow.......
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