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Old 09-03-2020, 01:26 PM   #1
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Is This The Party Of Our Fathers?


The Democrat party of today is not the party of our Fathers. The Democratic Party of 2020 is different from what we remember from the past . . .even the recent past.

It is not the party of Franklin Roosevelt and Harry Truman who lead us through WW-II. It is not the party of President Kennedy or President Johnson. It is not the party of George McGovern or Hubert Humphrey. It is not the party of President Carter who brokered a lasting peace between Israel and Egypt. None of these leaders would support or endorse the Democrat Party of today.

It is not today the party that sought to remake America through programs such as The New Deal, The Great Society or The War on Poverty'. It is not the party that said, " . . .ask not what your country can do for you . . ."

This is not the party of Barbara Jordan or Caesar Chavez, both of whom opposed illegal immigration. The Democrat Party in 2020 is not the party of Viola Liuzzo or Medger Evers, who each died alone in the cause of civil rights. It is no longer the party of John L. Lewis who lead the march over the bridge at Selma. Nor is it the party of Ralph Abernathy, Andrew Young or Jessie Jackson, all of whom knelt over the bleeding body of Martin Luther King as he lay dying of an assassin's bullet.

This is not the party that demanded that the protections and freedoms of the Constitution and Bill of Rights be applied for all persons regardless of their point of view or the color of their skin . . . . and then amended The Constitution to explicitly ensure that universal application of those right occurred.

Now, on the threshold of the third decade of the 21st Century, the Democrat Party has moved away from its' liberal roots of the late 20th Century, to become the party of avowed Marxist-Socialists such as Bill de Blasio, Alexandra Ocassio-Cortez and Bernie Sanders. The Democratic party of 2020 has endorsed and given massive financial support to violent radical groups, such as Back Lives Matter and Antifa, whose announced intention and goal is to dismantle our society through violence if necessary.

The Party has turned its back on its 20th Century liberal ideals and has instead embraced the radical legacy of Angela Davis, Stokley Carmichael and H. Rap Brown along with Bobby Seal and Abby Hoffman. This is no longer the party of Head Start or The Peace Corps. The Democrat Party has turned away from the non-violent principles of Gandhi as embraced by Dr. King. It has rather turned to the examples of the Weather Underground.

If a person is a life-long Democrat, a committed liberal, a passionate libertarian or a centrist-independent; a re-examine of what the Democratic party has demonstrated itself to stand for today is in order. They should then determine if that is what they themselves actually stand for today.
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I name a number of people who were significant figures in the liberal cause during the 20th Century. If these names are not failure to you, please take a moment to ask Google, Siri or Alexa about them.
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Old 09-03-2020, 01:34 PM   #3
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i recall the kennedy/nixon debates

i watched them with my father

i remember, later, asking my dad who he had voted for, he said kennedy

that was the last presidential election for which he was alive to cast a vote

i am sure my father would not vote for any dimocrat today
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Old 09-03-2020, 03:15 PM   #4
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ICU - well written and accurate.

ThankYou, good sir@!
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has anyone know if jesse jackson has said anything about this? he is still around.
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he defers to Al sharpton these days.
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Old 09-04-2020, 07:20 AM   #7
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Sleepless nights?

Must be shitting bricks Ramboebsy!

I don’t blames yous. The world is coming to an end, after all.
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Yupper and the truth hurts the DPST narrative ssss
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has anyone know if jesse jackson has said anything about this? he is still around.

Yeah, I think he was there along side Jacob Blake Sr. wondering why he is no longer asked to speak. They've found another Black racist to take your place Jesse. Seems there are an abundance of them to pick from.
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Old 09-04-2020, 11:18 AM   #10
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Yeah, I think he was there along side Jacob Blake Sr. wondering why he is no longer asked to speak. They've found another Black racist to take your place Jesse. Seems there are an abundance of them to pick from.
jesse's decline as the go to race baiter seems to correspond with jessee jr.'s improprieties
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Remember his "Rainbow Coalition"? I think that was an early version of BLM.
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Yeah, I think he was there along side Jacob Blake Sr. wondering why he is no longer asked to speak. They've found another Black racist to take your place Jesse. Seems there are an abundance of them to pick from.
Blake Sr is a flat out racist, anti-Semitic follower of Louis Farrakhan, yet Biden slobbers all over him.
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Is This The Party Of Our Fathers?


The Democrat party of today is not the party of our Fathers. The Democratic Party of 2020 is different from what we remember from the past . . .even the recent past.

It is not the party of Franklin Roosevelt and Harry Truman who lead us through WW-II. It is not the party of President Kennedy or President Johnson. It is not the party of George McGovern or Hubert Humphrey. It is not the party of President Carter who brokered a lasting peace between Israel and Egypt. None of these leaders would support or endorse the Democrat Party of today.

It is not today the party that sought to remake America through programs such as The New Deal, The Great Society or The War on Poverty'. It is not the party that said, " . . .ask not what your country can do for you . . ."

This is not the party of Barbara Jordan or Caesar Chavez, both of whom opposed illegal immigration. The Democrat Party in 2020 is not the party of Viola Liuzzo or Medger Evers, who each died alone in the cause of civil rights. It is no longer the party of John L. Lewis who lead the march over the bridge at Selma. Nor is it the party of Ralph Abernathy, Andrew Young or Jessie Jackson, all of whom knelt over the bleeding body of Martin Luther King as he lay dying of an assassin's bullet.

This is not the party that demanded that the protections and freedoms of the Constitution and Bill of Rights be applied for all persons regardless of their point of view or the color of their skin . . . . and then amended The Constitution to explicitly ensure that universal application of those right occurred.

Now, on the threshold of the third decade of the 21st Century, the Democrat Party has moved away from its' liberal roots of the late 20th Century, to become the party of avowed Marxist-Socialists such as Bill de Blasio, Alexandra Ocassio-Cortez and Bernie Sanders. The Democratic party of 2020 has endorsed and given massive financial support to violent radical groups, such as Back Lives Matter and Antifa, whose announced intention and goal is to dismantle our society through violence if necessary.

The Party has turned its back on its 20th Century liberal ideals and has instead embraced the radical legacy of Angela Davis, Stokley Carmichael and H. Rap Brown along with Bobby Seal and Abby Hoffman. This is no longer the party of Head Start or The Peace Corps. The Democrat Party has turned away from the non-violent principles of Gandhi as embraced by Dr. King. It has rather turned to the examples of the Weather Underground.

If a person is a life-long Democrat, a committed liberal, a passionate libertarian or a centrist-independent; a re-examine of what the Democratic party has demonstrated itself to stand for today is in order. They should then determine if that is what they themselves actually stand for today.
I wish one of our esteemed contributors on the left would show up to argue the other side. I can't as I agree with a good part of it, especially as applied to the Sanders/Warren/AOC wing of the party. I will say that George McGovern and Jimmy Carter were not cut from a different mold. They'd fit right in with the Biden wing of the party today. And that's not a good thing.

I could write a similar hit piece about the Republican Party under Trump, the difference being that the idiocy going through the party right now is temporary. After the party loses power and spends time wandering in the desert looking for repentance, figuratively speaking, it will rise again and get America back on the right path. Hopefully that won't take 40 years like it did for the Hebrew tribes.
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I wish one of our esteemed contributors on the left would show up to argue the other side. I can't as I agree with a good part of it, especially as applied to the Sanders/Warren/AOC wing of the party. I will say that George McGovern and Jimmy Carter were not cut from a different mold. They'd fit right in with the Biden wing of the party today. And that's not a good thing.

I could write a similar hit piece about the Republican Party under Trump, the difference being that the idiocy going through the party right now is temporary. After the party loses power and spends time wandering in the desert looking for repentance, figuratively speaking, it will rise again and get America back on the right path. Hopefully that won't take 40 years like it did for the Hebrew tribes.
Biden needs a map to get him from the Bed to bathroom in the morning. This Country will never be on a righteous path with that nut.
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I wish one of our esteemed contributors on the left would show up to argue the other side. I can't as I agree with a good part of it,

I could write a similar hit piece about the Republican Party under Trump, the difference being that the idiocy going through the party right now is temporary. After the party loses power and spends time wandering in the desert looking for repentance, figuratively speaking, it will rise again and get America back on the right path. Hopefully that won't take 40 years like it did for the Hebrew tribes.
Thank you for that.

And YES: The Republican party as personified by President Trump is wide open to much criticism.. If one is talking strictly about Trump, there is little sober or serious criticism from the left that I will disagree with concerning his character and personal record; the womanizing and so on. But he is in the company of many other "great" men who were also presidents. I may post another thread on that later on today.
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