Welcome to ECCIE, become a part of the fastest growing adult community. Take a minute & sign up!

Welcome to ECCIE - Sign up today!

Become a part of one of the fastest growing adult communities online. We have something for you, whether you’re a male member seeking out new friends or a new lady on the scene looking to take advantage of our many opportunities to network, make new friends, or connect with people. Join today & take part in lively discussions, take advantage of all the great features that attract hundreds of new daily members!

Go Premium

Go Back   ECCIE Worldwide > General Interest > The Political Forum
The Political Forum Discuss anything related to politics in this forum. World politics, US Politics, State and Local.

Top Reviewers
cockalatte 520
MoneyManMatt 487
daaaaaman 446
Still Looking 399
honest_abe 363
Jon Bon 359
Harley Diablo 328
samcruz 310
nicemusic 285
You&Me 281
lupegarland 279
BobbyMann 235
mriley000 232
Chung Tran 231
dominos 226
Top Posters
DallasRain62593
Yssup Rider47433
pyramider45752
gman4444450
LexusLover44258
WTF38305
offshoredrilling35961
Still Looking35944
Mokoa35792
biomed135695
Mojojo33117
Chica Chaser31136
I B Hankering30546
i'va biggen28773
CuteOldGuy28730

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 05-09-2019, 07:48 PM   #1
agrarian
Gaining Momentum
 
Join Date: Feb 12, 2019
Location: Kansas City
Posts: 85
Default Trump taxes and tweets

Your opinion may differ, for reasonable reasons, but I find the information contained in Trump's tax returns revealing. What year was Art of the Deal published?

What is equally revealing is the president's silence on this matter. He spoke up for a short time and then went quiet. He tweeted more about Bernie Sanders taxes than his own. And this silence follows his own noisy protestations about efforts to uncover his taxes. He has been tapdancing around this tax thing for more than two years, taking potshots at whomever brought up the subject or sought to get at his returns. Now that a decade's worth of them have been presented he has almost nothing to say.
agrarian is offline   Quote
Old 05-09-2019, 08:15 PM   #2
Jackie S
Premium Access
 
Join Date: Mar 31, 2010
Location: Houston
Posts: 11,395
Encounters: 13
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by agrarian View Post
Your opinion may differ, for reasonable reasons, but I find the information contained in Trump's tax returns revealing. What year was Art of the Deal published?

What is equally revealing is the president's silence on this matter. He spoke up for a short time and then went quiet. He tweeted more about Bernie Sanders taxes than his own. And this silence follows his own noisy protestations about efforts to uncover his taxes. He has been tapdancing around this tax thing for more than two years, taking potshots at whomever brought up the subject or sought to get at his returns. Now that a decade's worth of them have been presented he has almost nothing to say.
It’s nothing new. Except to those who have not paid attention to President Trump’s very public life for the past four decades.
Jackie S is online now   Quote
Old 05-09-2019, 08:37 PM   #3
kehaar
Lifetime Premium Access
 
Join Date: Aug 20, 2015
Location: Houston
Posts: 586
Encounters: 2
Default

What is there to say? Why would he say anything? What he pays in taxes is know to all who have a brain. Speculators make much of their money on legal tax manipulation. This is true for buffet, facebook, amazon, google, microsoft, and just about all of the left wing loons.

Please realize that Trump was a professed democrat during this entire period.

The only people who pay taxes in this country are the people who create real value.

I am going to repeat this for effect. The only people who pay taxes in this country are the people who create real value.

If you want more tax money to spend on social programs, promote businesses that create real value. I would point out that these are the specific people that the left wing loons truly hate.
kehaar is offline   Quote
Old 05-09-2019, 09:08 PM   #4
TheWanderer
Valued Poster
 
TheWanderer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 22, 2009
Location: TX
Posts: 2,599
Encounters: 25
Default

What is your definition or examples of businesses that create real value? I would assume those would be some sort of business that manufacture and sell a product. They have a paid workforce (that pays taxes) and sell a useful or needed product to the public.
Automobile manufacturers could be one, but I have recently learned that they pay little to no taxes themselves as they are able to manipulate the tax laws with line items like plant depreciation and research and development that go against their tax liability and as a result usually obtain huge refunds.
What people are you referring to that the left wing loons hate?
Not arguing with you, I'm just curious.
TheWanderer is offline   Quote
Old 05-09-2019, 09:15 PM   #5
eccieuser9500
Valued Poster
 
eccieuser9500's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 29, 2013
Location: Earth
Posts: 3,712
Encounters: 43
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by kehaar View Post
What is there to say?

New York Times Report on Trump’s Taxes May Prompt Fraud Investigation


https://truthout.org/video/new-york-...investigation/


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qnN7lnYinzU


Quote:
David Cay Johnston: . . . I’ve said, and I’ll say again, the only logical explanation for his conduct is that Donald was in the [ ] trafficking business with Joe Wexelbaum. And Donald, if you’re listening, sue me if you think you can prove what I just said isn’t true.








eccieuser9500 is offline   Quote
Old 05-09-2019, 09:49 PM   #6
The_Waco_Kid
AKA MAGA Gurl
 
The_Waco_Kid's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 8, 2010
Location: The Twilight Zone
Posts: 13,193
Encounters: 1
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by eccieuser9500 View Post

David Cay Johnson. interesting source.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Cay_Johnston


if this asshole had actual evidence do you think he wouldn't have released it by now?? btw .. correct me if i'm wrong but wasn't Johnson one of the "experts" the MSN used to critique the prior Trump tax info?


yes he was! what?? you thinck we forgot about him and the madcow?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0eB-xjDMGdQ

i found this on the alter.net

https://www.alternet.org/2019/05/dav...iness-history/


about the fred trump thing. you do know that all of this is so far back in the past even if Trump admitted it he and his family couldn't be charged yeah?

you bloviate much about the law and the constitution. so would you knowingly abridge citizen Trump's constitutional rights just to press old charges that even if proven were Fred Trump's doing?

asking for a friend.


BAHHAHAAAAAAA


The_Waco_Kid is offline   Quote
Old 05-09-2019, 10:03 PM   #7
gnadfly
Valued Poster
 
gnadfly's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 20, 2010
Location: Houston
Posts: 10,684
Default

More fake news.

At first the NYT talked about Trump's tax returns.
Then the NYT characterized them as Trump's tax documents.
Then the NYT called them Trump's tax transcripts.

And the next day it was off most websites front page.

President Trump should have the NYT's offices raided by the FBI and sieze their servers.

If you're "distressed" by how much money Trump lost in those years, you should see how much money the New York Times lost.
gnadfly is offline   Quote
Old 05-09-2019, 10:09 PM   #8
gnadfly
Valued Poster
 
gnadfly's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 20, 2010
Location: Houston
Posts: 10,684
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by agrarian View Post
Your opinion may differ, for reasonable reasons, but I find the information contained in Trump's tax returns revealing. What year was Art of the Deal published?

What is equally revealing is the president's silence on this matter. He spoke up for a short time and then went quiet. He tweeted more about Bernie Sanders taxes than his own. And this silence follows his own noisy protestations about efforts to uncover his taxes. He has been tapdancing around this tax thing for more than two years, taking potshots at whomever brought up the subject or sought to get at his returns. Now that a decade's worth of them have been presented he has almost nothing to say.
What information did you find revealing? Trump lost a lot of money during certain years and his companies renegotiated loans and filed bankruptcies. It's pretty much public record.

This is similar to the Dims who shout "We need to know what's in the Mueller report" but don't even bother to pick it up.
gnadfly is offline   Quote
Old 05-09-2019, 10:12 PM   #9
lustylad
Premium Access
 
lustylad's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 8, 2010
Location: Steeler Nation
Posts: 13,520
Encounters: 7
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by TheWanderer View Post
I have recently learned that they pay little to no taxes themselves as they are able to manipulate the tax laws with line items like plant depreciation and research and development that go against their tax liability and as a result usually obtain huge refunds.
How does one "manipulate" the tax laws? It is what it is. If a company takes an overly aggressive interpretation of what the law allows, the IRS can audit and disallow whatever deductions or exclusions were claimed. Big cases wind up in tax court.

Depreciation and R&D are long-standing and widely accepted expense items. How does one "manipulate" them? Give me some examples that show you even know what you're talking about. Do you know what GAAP stands for?
lustylad is offline   Quote
Old 05-09-2019, 10:47 PM   #10
eccieuser9500
Valued Poster
 
eccieuser9500's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 29, 2013
Location: Earth
Posts: 3,712
Encounters: 43
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid View Post

if this asshole had actual evidence do you think he wouldn't have released it by now?? btw .. correct me if i'm wrong but wasn't Johns[t]on one of the "experts" the MSN (? MSNBC or MSM) used to critique the prior Trump tax info?

DID I HIT A NERVE? SENSITIVE!
















eccieuser9500 is offline   Quote
Old 05-09-2019, 11:11 PM   #11
The_Waco_Kid
AKA MAGA Gurl
 
The_Waco_Kid's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 8, 2010
Location: The Twilight Zone
Posts: 13,193
Encounters: 1
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by eccieuser9500 View Post
DID I HIT A NERVE? SENSITIVE!



No. my dentist is a hot milf Asian woman. i like getting my teeth cleaned.


i'll just tell you now. your game is deteriorating due to lack of substance. you pine for the removal of an evil only a socialist would advocate .. by any means necessary


to you Trump is evil. and i like that! to me .. well .. u know what's cumming..




The_Waco_Kid is offline   Quote
Old 05-09-2019, 11:19 PM   #12
eccieuser9500
Valued Poster
 
eccieuser9500's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 29, 2013
Location: Earth
Posts: 3,712
Encounters: 43
Default

Over compensation. I had that very same thought.

"He went on a little misspelling hissy fit when I touched his nerve about his majesty being in the Koch bizz. But I noticed he stopped dancing."

Now, it's just sad.

eccieuser9500 is offline   Quote
Old 05-09-2019, 11:23 PM   #13
eccieuser9500
Valued Poster
 
eccieuser9500's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 29, 2013
Location: Earth
Posts: 3,712
Encounters: 43
Default

And speaking of "lack of substance".

Quote:
Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid View Post
who cares when it was written? weren't you the one that said you can't make the comparison? well you can, and the results speak for themselves. Both Obama and FDR fucked up what should have been a short downturn, no matter how large.


Prove that wrong.

and i don't read any paywall bs. the WaPooPoo does not deserve my donation to their publication.

so post the article in full if you think it really proves anything.

Or not.


BAHAAAAA







eccieuser9500 is offline   Quote
Old 05-09-2019, 11:33 PM   #14
The_Waco_Kid
AKA MAGA Gurl
 
The_Waco_Kid's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 8, 2010
Location: The Twilight Zone
Posts: 13,193
Encounters: 1
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by eccieuser9500 View Post
And speaking of "lack of substance".















I'll take that as a NOT.





The_Waco_Kid is offline   Quote
Old 05-09-2019, 11:47 PM   #15
eccieuser9500
Valued Poster
 
eccieuser9500's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 29, 2013
Location: Earth
Posts: 3,712
Encounters: 43
Default













The FMU Fightin' Uteri
eccieuser9500 is offline   Quote
Reply

Thread Tools


AMPReviews.net
Find Ladies
Hot Women

Powered by vBulletin®
Copyright © 2009 - 2016, ECCIE Worldwide, All Rights Reserved