Elizabeth Warren: Abortion is 'about the functioning of our democracy'

[oeb11]

https://www.foxnews.com/media/elizab...ning-democracy
'Right-wing extremists know that if they can keep people from voting, they've got a better chance to impose their views about abortion on an unwilling nation,' claimed Warren



Sen. Elizabeth Warren, D-Mass., claimed Monday that access to abortion was "about the functioning of our Democracy," and that "right-wing extremists" were trying to keep people from voting in order to impose their views about the issue on the entire nation.
In an interview with Teen Vogue first reported on by the Daily Caller, the liberal Democrat argued that being able to make decisions for yourself was "part of the heart" of what democracy was all about and that the issues of abortion and voting intersected with one another "from the perspective of respect for the individual, and also from a political point of view."
"Both voting and access to abortion are basic. They're about the functioning of our democracy and about the protection of personal autonomy," Warren said after being asked if voting rights and abortion rights were the "key issues" in making sure people's freedoms were protected. "Protection of the vote means your voice gets heard in government. Protection of access to basic health care means your autonomy as a human being is fully respected by the law. That you will make the decisions about yourself."
WARREN CAN'T THINK OF A SINGLE ABORTION RESTRICTION SHE SUPPORTS DURING DEMOCRATIC DEBATE
"To me, that's part of the heart of what all of this is about. This is where the two big fights are shaping up right now. And each intersects with the other. Both from the perspective of respect for the individual, and also from a political point of view," she added. "The right-wing extremists know that if they can keep people from voting, they've got a better chance to impose their views about abortion on an unwilling nation."
Warren did not elaborate on who she was referring to as "right-wing extremists," but cited a 2018 NBC-WSJ poll that found 71% of registered voters believed that Roe v. Wade, the Supreme Court's landmark ruling on abortion, should not be overturned, and claimed that "a small but intensely focused group of people" wanted to "impose their will on the majority" of Americans.
She then claimed, without evidence, that the Republican Party was openly admitting they could only "hang on to power" by keeping a substantial number of U.S. citizens from voting because the policy on abortion they wanted to implement was unpopular with most Americans, seemingly referring to Democratic claims that Republican-backed state election laws were attempting to disenfranchise minority voters.
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Although Warren cited the poll showing a majority of Americans supported maintaining Roe v. Wade, the same poll showed that only 44% of registered voters said they were more likely to vote for a candidate if they were pro-choice. The remaining 55% said they would be more likely to vote for a candidate who was pro-life (26%) or that a candidate's view on abortion had no effect on their decision (29%).





Every time I think I have seen the limits of bizarre DPST nomenklatura behavior - they come out with something even more bizarre.

Sadly - they and their minions actually believe their horseshit Xinn Lies.

it bodes badly for America.



Meanwhile - comrade Xi is licking his chopsticks and dividing up teh map of America.


terminology and meaning :

when a DPST communicates "our democracy' - the meaning is "perpetual socialist rule under teh democrat party "
They despise representative bi-party Democracy.
And love their marxist leader Comrade Xi!

[bambino]

What about vaccines Pocahontas?

[oeb11]

[Levianon17]

The Left will start paying women to have an Abortion. It will no longer be a choice but a proposition.

[Strokey_McDingDong]

I support his right to choose.

[HedonistForever]

And here is the flaw in her argument. If Democracy means "the will of the people as long as it doesn't do specific harm to the minority", then let the States decide whether they want to allow abortions just like states get to decide whether a crime is felony or misdemeanor, first degree murder of manslaughter.


The fact is, the SC "found", invented a right to privacy, that did not exist in the Constitution. If right of privacy was actually allowed by the Constitution, the government could make no decision on what one did in the "privacy" of their home.


If Roe was over turned, it would be left up to the "Democratic process" in each state to decide if abortion shall be allowed and under what circumstances.

[Ronin3]

Originally Posted by bambino

What about vaccines Pocahontas?

I was wondering about that myself.

[Tiny]

Originally Posted by HedonistForever

And here is the flaw in her argument. If Democracy means "the will of the people as long as it doesn't do specific harm to the minority", then let the States decide whether they want to allow abortions just like states get to decide whether a crime is felony or misdemeanor, first degree murder of manslaughter.


The fact is, the SC "found", invented a right to privacy, that did not exist in the Constitution. If right of privacy was actually allowed by the Constitution, the government could make no decision on what one did in the "privacy" of their home.


If Roe was over turned, it would be left up to the "Democratic process" in each state to decide if abortion shall be allowed and under what circumstances.

Like McDingDong (I think), I'm pro choice. However since government should be closest to the people, I agree with your conclusion - let the states decide.

It will be interesting to see your reaction to what I'm about to post about DeSantis, based on the same principle.

[HedonistForever]

Originally Posted by Tiny

Like McDingDong (I think), I'm pro choice. However since government should be closest to the people, I agree with your conclusion - let the states decide.

It will be interesting to see your reaction to what I'm about to post about DeSantis, based on the same principle.

Federalism, States rights is a big part of our Constitution and laws. So States can make different decisions, we seem to agree but what if for example the people in the State of Florida lets say, are a 50-50 split on masking school children. Should one school mandate masks while the school just down the road doesn't? This would be an example of when the Democratically elected Governor steps in and says CHOICE and that choice is the parents not the elected officials!


DeSantis is not "mandating" anything. He is telling all school boards that they must respect the choice of parents as to whether they will mask or not and definitely what they can and can't be taught. Can't have some school boards mandating CRT while others don't IMHO. Sometimes there must be uniformity and when that uniformity comes down on the side of choice of the individual, it works best. You can always keep your child at home and school them yourself. Choice, it's a beautiful thing.

[Tiny]

Originally Posted by HedonistForever

Federalism, States rights is a big part of our Constitution and laws. So States can make different decisions, we seem to agree but what if for example the people in the State of Florida lets say, are a 50-50 split on masking school children. Should one school mandate masks while the school just down the road doesn't? This would be an example of when the Democratically elected Governor steps in and says CHOICE and that choice is the parents not the elected officials!


DeSantis is not "mandating" anything. He is telling all school boards that they must respect the choice of parents as to whether they will mask or not and definitely what they can and can't be taught. Can't have some school boards mandating CRT while others don't IMHO. Sometimes there must be uniformity and when that uniformity comes down on the side of choice of the individual, it works best. You can always keep your child at home and school them yourself. Choice, it's a beautiful thing.

Well, Biden's the Democratically elected president of the USA, and I damn well don't want him stepping in and telling Texans they have to give up oil and gas extraction, or that they have to pay higher taxes or impose a cradle to grave welfare state. If the people of California or New York want to do that more power to them. But the majority of Texans don't want that here. I imagine you feel similarly about Florida.

I believe the same principle applies at the state level. I do see your point on the school curriculum. We want those little bastards to become well educated and prosperous so they can support us when we get old, and that's perhaps best done setting standards at the state level.

But I don't agree on masks. Uniformity in the school system sounds like something a communist totalitarian state would impose.

[Levianon17]

Originally Posted by Tiny

Well, Biden's the Democratically elected president of the USA, and I damn well don't want him stepping in and telling Texans they have to give up oil and gas extraction, or that they have to pay higher taxes or impose a cradle to grave welfare state. If the people of California or New York want to do that more power to them. But the majority of Texans don't want that here. I imagine you feel similarly about Florida.

I believe the same principle applies at the state level. I do see your point on the school curriculum. We want those little bastards to become well educated and prosperous so they can support us when we get old, and that's perhaps best done setting standards at the state level.

But I don't agree on masks. Uniformity in the school system sounds like something a communist totalitarian state would impose.

That's pretty much it. Even if everyone in this whole country was vaccinated they would come up with another crisis to impose their will on us. It will never end and nothing changes as long as we let it, and we are letting the Government do whatever they want to us.

[rexdutchman]

They support the right to choose ? except for vaccines or anything else they want, HYPOCRISY