Law enforcment and decoys

[MarzzMan]

Okay here's the deal, I know being a provider that you have to worry about law enforcement's. Being a new hobbyist what should I be looking for when seeing a new provider. How can I tell if the provider is a law enforcement decoys. I know that there are certain things that decoys cannot do, what are they. And on the other hand one should the provider be looking for when seeing a new client.
I would just like to know what the warning signs are, I really don't want to be arrested or have to explain to my other half what I was doing.

So put someone let me know either post your own p.m.

Thank you for all the help that I have been getting from this forums
Marzzan

[B.Wayne]

After watching so many "cops" type shows one thing seemed to always stick out to me. For the most part there seemed to be a code word they used to make the arrest. So if you are a new guy trying to meet someone or a guy trying to meet a new girl, why not say nothing at all? As weird as it sounds to say that you can't really make the lady feel like you are LE if you take a vow of silence. No talkie, no code word, just point to drawer, lay down donation, off come close, have fun. Just an idea but Im not a lawyer and they would probably find another way to nab them anyway.

[Sweet N Little]

Read Shyster johns replys here..http://www.eccie.net/showthread.php?p=750440#post750440

He gives a lot of good info

[plainjoe]

Marzz, If you read through other posts, there are several trends, a few follow: 1 - research, research, research - do some homework and check up on the lady (this site, other sites). 2 - If there are NO reviews, pass. If only on BP, pass. 3 - get verified - this site, P411, Datecheck, etc. - verified hobbyists and providers site - makes it safer for all involved. 4 - think with the big head, not small head - if if seems too good to be true, it probably is too good. There are other trends in the security forum that you read - they cover the use of hobby phones, e-mail/internet use, etc. Welcome - be safe.

[Old-T]

There is nothing perfect.

Well reviewed established ladies are much less risk. There is no zero risk.

[TheAntichrist666]

Instead of dealing with LE's trying to get me busted, I rather go to Eccie or P411. But wait a minute, couldn't LE's be setting us up there too?

[gimme_that]

Originally Posted by Old-T

There is nothing perfect.

Well reviewed established ladies are much less risk. There is no zero risk.

Yep. Reputable provider could easily get flipped when they get arrested....(maybe threatened to the fact of possibly losing her kids for example unless she facillitates an arrest)......I usually just use the most recent anti LE info provided to me through reviews and other means......

One thing I notice a lot of ladies...and myself do....the first thing I do is give the lady a hug. This gives me ample oppurtunity to feel for wires. Its no fool proof plan though as wires and survilence equiptment could be anywhere but its a good paranoid start.

Another thing I have heard is to immediately chew gum 5 minutes before session and kiss the client or provider when you arrive. This isn't fool proof by no means either. But if the cop male or female is playing by the book and/or don't want to take the chance of bringing a possible mouth std or worse home they will try their best to avoid contact of any means. If they dodge you like NEO in the Matrix, your in trouble. Did you chew the gum? Well then you should be silent, because now things are very weird. Your still gonna be arrested, but you may get it dismissed.

Just keep in mind in all those scenarios you will still be arrested and its too late to kick your tires.

Nothing is foolproof. Lol

Wikipedia says.......

1. So hang up you jacket....(check for closet pimp)

2. Take off your shoes "accidentally" and kick it under bed and take off your pants with wallet and throw them where u can see them. (under bed pimp or petite lady.)

3. Urinate before session starts and "accidentally" trip into shower curtain hard (shower pimp)

4. Lock the top latch on door and put hotel chair by hotel rooms connecting doors to prevent surprise entry. (Neighbor pimp)

[TheAntichrist666]

That is excellent advice, I will keep that in mind with me at all times.

[MarzzMan]

all good ideas, but i was asking about no no's like handing the fee to the provider place it on a table instead , can i touch the provider's breasts will this prove shes not a decoy, asking if shes a LE agent, some thing that LE's are not allowed to do Im getting parinoid now lolol

[gimme_that]

There no get out of jail free card. There have been situations where cops have had full sessions and still arrested the lady. But I would be more willingly to bet if its a female cop the last thing they want is for you to kiss, hug, or come in close contact with her.

Nothing is safe. Check out that thread link above....its very useful.

[Tiffani Jameson]

Originally Posted by gimme_that

Yep. Reputable provider could easily get flipped when they get arrested....(maybe threatened to the fact of possibly losing her kids for example unless she facillitates an arrest)......I usually just use the most recent anti LE info provided to me through reviews and other means......

Providers that screen don't get busted. Providers that don't get busted don't get their computers and phones confiscated. Unconfiscated computers and phones means emails to and from clients are locked away or deleted. Well, usually

There have been a few flimsy reports over the years that some cities when they set up a sting, they have verifiable references, employment info, et al, but I've only heard of this twice in seven years.

Stay away from streetwalkers, unverified providers, and you don't have to worry about decoys.

[Ed Highlight]

Originally Posted by Tiffani Jameson

Providers that screen don't get busted. Providers that don't get busted don't get their computers and phones confiscated. Unconfiscated computers and phones means emails to and from clients are locked away or deleted. Well, usually

There have been a few flimsy reports over the years that some cities when they set up a sting, they have verifiable references, employment info, et al, but I've only heard of this twice in seven years.

Stay away from streetwalkers, unverified providers, and you don't have to worry about decoys.

That's exactly what a decoy would say....and I fell for it!! She decoyed me into the room and then proceded to decoy the hell out of me for about 2 hours.....what a decoy!?!

[Tiffani Jameson]

Originally Posted by Ed Highlight

That's exactly what a decoy would say....and I fell for it!! She decoyed me into the room and then proceded to decoy the hell out of me for about 2 hours.....what a decoy!?!

Sush dammit! You're blowing my cover!

You are so silly...

[Ed Highlight]

Originally Posted by Tiffani Jameson

Sush dammit! You're blowing my cover!

You are so silly...

Oh yah I forgot... don't get me started about blown covers!!

[Sweet N Little]

Originally Posted by Ed Highlight

That's exactly what a decoy would say....and I fell for it!! She decoyed me into the room and then proceded to decoy the hell out of me for about 2 hours.....what a decoy!?!

Face it Ed, your just easy lol