Encounter: TS Sonia - Pick One and She's Done

[johndoe663]

OP is more upset that people call that TS a dude than he's not getting his money worth from an escort. Yes, paying $200 to suck some dick is very gay.

[Sjj1jxg]

We really do all like different things

[Kaiju]

Damn I’m glad this hasn’t spread to cows and bulls…. I wouldn’t know which was milk and which was cum!

Kidding aside…. I believe in 2 genders… male and female. A male has a penis and a female has a vagina.

No offense was meant by this… you do you OP. Hell when I was a kid… I dry humped a swing set…. Little slut took it nicely too.

[dfwtsfan]

From what I can see, ECCIE allows reviews of only 2 gender types, females and transsexuals. Point me to some ECCIE reviews on here that are required to be labeled as reviews of men/males. Explain to me why TS's aren't required to be labeled as such? Each of you can certainly have a different personal opinion about that, and how their gender is to be viewed, but whose opinion and directive about how they're labeled here trumps all personal opinions? I review TS's, not men, not dudes, nor guys.

[howdy_booty]

I get what you’re trying to do, but I don’t think you’re going to move the dial on this issue. Most people on here are a tad bit too old to consider changing their mind on this, especially in a state and nation this conservative.

[baldbrotha1]

What many of us are saying is this is NOT a TS review board. Maybe they'll have a forum in the near future but don't try to get me to accept sucking dick and NOT think its gay! Smh

[Dad_Bod]

This discussion is wild... people love a good argument.

So, what of a man that sees a dominant female and let's her peg him with a strap-on? Or performs oral on a woman wearing a strap-on? What if he does those things immediately before or after getting oral/fucking said female?

Is he gay? What about all of you mongers who seem to prefer greek over vaginal?

Seems like a ton of people here have such a narrow view of sexuality


(edit) And if it's "not a TS review board" or that doesn't interest you, why the F would you enter an encounter review with "TS" in the title? You're either looking for trouble or you have some latent curiosity you'd prefer not to acknowledge. Some of you doth protest too much, methinks. $.02

[dfwtsfan]

baldbrotha1, you're right, not having a TS forum here is a problem for heterosexuals on here and for TS hobbyists. Hetero's should keep all their disrespectful "sucking any cock is really a man and it's gay" implications and comments to themselves. TS hobbyists don't view themselves as gay, or the TS as a man, if they could they'd likely be sucking the dick of what looks more male than female.

Howdy_booty, I wasn't trying to move the dial with them. I knew prior to posting both TS reviews, of which few new ones exist, the reasons why they don't. I knew the pattern here of the obvious anti-TS types (female hobbyists) on here, had watched it for years, and how it likely ran-off some of the best active TS hobbyists on this board.

Here's are some of the main reasons why the anti-TS review members do that:

1. They don't like TS's or TS's aren't their preference

2. They don't respect TS's or those who review them

3. They don't like seeing TS reviews on ECCIE, and especially don't like it in "their" female forums. I get that, I really do, but where else can I post them on ECCIE?

4. Some anti-TS members want to disguise their baiting, provoking and offensive ways to make sure that TS reviewer won't post anymore TS reviews, with offensive and insulting comments like: "So you paid 200 to suck a man's dick, that's gay?"

5. Those anti-TS members also want to strongly discourage other TS hobbyists from posting TS reviews, by showing them with # 4, that if you do that be ready for me and others like me to do # 4 to you.

6. Some are seriously worried that TS reviews might convert them, or some of their buddies on here, to give TS's a try. You know, those that like a little prostate massage with certain menu items, those who like a little pegging or strap-on action from their favorite provider, or those that let a provider snowball them. Some involved in those might eventually say to themselves "WTF, let's try the real thing, but make sure it's not really a man"

The problem with each TS review on ECCIE right now is it potentially hurts or offends multiple parties: the TS reviewer, TS's (the male insults), other TS hobbyists on ECCIE, and heterosexual hobbyists.

That is a systemic problem from the top down. There's no reason this review should get to nearly 30 posts with it primarily being a debate about "so you sucked a dudes dick for 200" type posts. It's a brazen intentional attack on TS's, and what they want to be viewed as, and likewise on TS reviewers and TS hobbyists

Baiting, provoking, insulting, discouraging, and allowing heterosexual members to blatantly be disrespectful and offensive to TS reviewers, and the TS community, is an ECCIE problem at the ownership and admin level, that violates their own guidelines. Members here are supposed to be respectful to one another, yet insulting TS slurs are allowed here (sucking another "mans" dick"). That's a huge problem and the pattern and reasons for the attacks (1-6 above) needs to be nipped in the bud. Either enforce your forum guidelines in the forum you allow TS reviews to be posted in, or create a specific protected forum for TS's. I don't like the offensive insults from female hobbyists, I'm sure the TS community wouldn't like them, and I'm sure most TS hobbyists on here don't like them. ECCIE, do something about it, either enforce your forum guidelines, create stronger ones about the 3rd gender, or create a protected forum for this type of inappropriate forum behavior.

Either you allow reviews here of TS's and completely support that class of people to be referred too in a respectful manner, and not be disrespected by the dick/male comments or you don't. ECCIE at the ownership level needs to either uphold all ECCIE forum guidelines for both review types (female and TS), and for all comments about those gender types to be respectful, or you don't. Them having one foot in and one foot out on that, is an ECCIE top level matter that creates too much dissension, and this review is an example of that. If they're going to allow TS reviews, then by God support everything that a TS stands for and wants, regarding courtesy, insults, and other types of abusive behavior, specifically "oh, you sucked a man's dick for 200, you're gay". Either apply your forum guidelines to them and their reviewers or kill all reviews about them. Why have a double standard of being respectful about females and those posting reviews of them, but not about TS's and TS reviewers?

Does anyone ever hit the RTM button around here?

[Eliot_Spitzer]

Originally Posted by dfwtsfan

"oh, you sucked a man's dick for 200, you're gay".

I did NOT say that. I will say this, most heterosexual women could go without sucking cock for the rest of their life and be happy.

[Bob Brown99]

The discussion on this review has lasted much longer than I would have initially expected.

One thing for certain is that TS Sonia did herself a disservice and should have provided a better performance, as the review has generated a lot of views and anyone interested in a TS experience would probably look elsewhere after reading. In that respect, this review has done its job.

[hdgymrat]

He’s right, regardless of your opinions or thoughts. People should be free to post reviews that are deemed acceptable on this board without being the proverbial childish slur that some of these people write. Enforce what is stated and this garbage won’t happen. Besides, no one asked you to read the review and nobody certainly asked for your comments.

[dfwtsfan]

Originally Posted by Eliot_Spitzer

I did NOT say that. I will say this, most heterosexual women could go without sucking cock for the rest of their life and be happy.

I agree with you regarding that comment about heterosexual women. You can find one every now and then that loves sucking dick, but every time I did, there was always something very wrong in another area. I'm convinced of this with most women, if you don't ask them for it, most will never do it. Asking them for it, and the rolling of their eyes, their heavy sighs, the look on their face of "don't you know I hate that", then the crappy effort put forth to just get it done and over quickly, any of that stuff can easily ruin the experience. Why can't they do it like some of the porn edging queens, with a happy smile, great eye contact, taking their time, great GFE/IOP, and acting like doing that is their favorite part of the day. Funny thing, some do act like they're enjoying it, and then one day all of that slowly changes.

Regarding the rest of your post, I was grouping of all the offensive male/gay cock sucking comments so far into one overall generalization of them.

You posted "You paid $200 to suck some dudes cock?" Now let's connect the dots on that. What by definition is a "dude"? It's a male. Connecting the dots further, that sentence could easily mean "you sucked off a man which means you're gay", which others had been implying. Maybe you intentionally did that or accidentally used the word "dudes", but either way, it can be interpreted as offensive to a TS and/or a TS hobbyist.

TS's don't view themselves as men and neither do their TS hobbyists. Yes I know many of you female hobbyists don't share that view, and I'm okay with that, I'm not okay with the posts you make solely for the purpose of malicious intent, as my previous post with reasons #1-#6 explains.

Many TS's have deep rooted issues and sensitivities, regarding the gender in which they're referred too. Doing it wrong can greatly offend them, and them take it as an insult, and the reason why, because they've gone to great lengths to not appear like that gender anymore. A slip-up of calling a TG a him or her (the wrong pronoun), without knowing which gender they want to be referred to as, can be highly offensive to them. Many of you probably don't know this, but the proper etiquette for that is to ask a TG "Which pronoun would you like me to use when referring to you?"

There's a lot of interesting articles on Google about things like pronouns and TS manners, TS etiquette, when you type in search words like: "transgender pronouns adl", "transgender etiquette", "ts manners", "not offending transgenders", and other combinations.

Having said that, I really don't expect any of you to care enough to do that, but there are in-depth articles about that online, and about understanding them better, should any of you even have a slight interest in not being offensive to them.

All I'd like to see you guys do is not circle the wagons, stir the pot, and start your TS bashing and flaming, by provoking TS reviewers, nor do that to the TS community. See reasons #1-#6 about all that, in post # 38 if you don't know what I'm referring too.

[eddieg5212]

If there is a cock hanging off it, it is a dude.

[eddieg5212]

And if you sucking his and he is sucking yours, it's 2 gay guys enjoying a cock sucking fest.

[Eliot_Spitzer]

Originally Posted by eddieg5212

And if you sucking his and he is sucking yours, it's 2 gay guys enjoying a cock sucking fest.

It sounds like he just showed up and sucked the "girldick." I don't think it was a two way street at alll.