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Old 01-23-2014, 09:24 AM   #16
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It's still there on p411. I like it.
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Old 01-28-2014, 04:28 AM   #17
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I advise my clients that provide me as a reference to check back with me before following through with the appointment. Send me a quick text or PM, and ask if she's checked with me.

I'm sure that other providers of quality wouldn't mind giving you the same courtesy. Taking measures to keep yourself safe also keeps us safe.

If she hasn't checked, you'll know she's not screening.

And if she hasn't, and you see her anyway –– she's not the only person leaving herself wide-open.

Just my $.02.
WTF???

I know of no other "provider of quality" who asks this. Never even heard of it much less seem it touted like a must do. Not on any board in any state for any reason.

This is bullshit.

I would never ever ever ask this. And I - unlike the OP - have never been staff edit - remove RL info. IF you want to check if a possible date has screened you - that's on you. Most guys don't. It is common for some ladies to say "Let me know if you're going to use me as a ref." and this more as permission to discuss you - the protected client - with anyone else for any reason. That's fine. But this.....is not the purpose of Ginger's advice. BE DAMNED if I sit here and read this after the BS she's pulled on the little sisters she has so called mentored (he has no refs you see him first /take the chance then - if you don't go to jail - I'll see him. Charge this do this blah blah Bullshit) Mentoring means help not controlling either the service the economics or the consumer.

This is NOT good manners or protecting clients. This is one crazee ass controlling psycho trying to figure who her clients are seeing instead of her.

Just ugh.......
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Old 01-28-2014, 05:35 AM   #18
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WTF???

I know of no other "provider of quality" who asks this. Never even heard of it much less seem it touted like a must do. Not on any board in any state for any reason.

This is bullshit.

I would never ever ever ask this. And I - unlike the OP - have never been staff edit - remove RL info IF you want to check if a possible date has screened you - that's on you. Most guys don't. It is common for some ladies to say "Let me know if you're going to use me as a ref." and this more as permission to discuss you - the protected client - with anyone else for any reason. That's fine. But this.....is not the purpose of Ginger's advice. BE DAMNED if I sit here and read this after the BS she's pulled on the little sisters she has so called mentored (he has no refs you see him first /take the chance then - if you don't go to jail - I'll see him. Charge this do this blah blah Bullshit) Mentoring means help not controlling either the service the economics or the consumer.

This is NOT good manners or protecting clients. This is one crazee ass controlling psycho trying to figure who her clients are seeing instead of her.

Just ugh.......
If the provider DID contact her, wouldn't she already know who he was seeing? It's of interest to a hobbyist IF the provider he's trying to see is actually screening or just going through the motions. We care because a provider that doesn't screen is a sure fire way to end up in trouble that might not even be your own. Safety is in everyone's best interest.
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Old 01-28-2014, 09:54 AM   #19
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As a practice, I do not tell my clients to call me back to see if another provider has actually follow up and called/emailed me.

However, I have had clients before talk about how they will give Provider A a reference (Provider B) then later call Provider B to see if he has been checked out. When they find out that Provider A never called Provider B, it worries them about how well the provider screens.

So, Hobbyists do have concerns.

Bottom line here is that if a hobbyist gives a provider references, it behooves that provider to call upon the references. Even if she sees a well known name and figures if he sees her then he must be okay, she still needs to call/email!

Also I think some guys want the ego trip of knowing that providers have discussed them, especially if they feel that the providers will be saying glowing things about them!! LOL

Never take anything for granted. Do your due diligence!

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Old 01-28-2014, 10:12 AM   #20
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WTF???

I know of no other "provider of quality" who asks this. Never even heard of it much less seem it touted like a must do. Not on any board in any state for any reason.

This is bullshit.

I would never ever ever ask this. And I - unlike the OP - have never been staff edit - remove RL info. IF you want to check if a possible date has screened you - that's on you. Most guys don't. It is common for some ladies to say "Let me know if you're going to use me as a ref." and this more as permission to discuss you - the protected client - with anyone else for any reason. That's fine. But this.....is not the purpose of Ginger's advice. BE DAMNED if I sit here and read this after the BS she's pulled on the little sisters she has so called mentored (he has no refs you see him first /take the chance then - if you don't go to jail - I'll see him. Charge this do this blah blah Bullshit) Mentoring means help not controlling either the service the economics or the consumer.

This is NOT good manners or protecting clients. This is one crazee ass controlling psycho trying to figure who her clients are seeing instead of her.

Just ugh.......
What the hell??

I'm not sure what I've done to attract your harassment, but anyone can view your post history and see that you have been on my ass for quite some time.

No one said it was a requirement that clients check with me to see if their provider was screening them – I merely told them they could check with me if they wanted or if they were concerned. I am genuinely concerned about safety, as are many others here.

Honestly, I could care less if my clients are seeing other providers – in fact, I routinely recommend other providers to them.

I'm not responding to any more of your bullshit! Go harass someone else.

I will say this, though – someone is certainly coming across as crazy in this thread, but it's not me.

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If the provider DID contact her, wouldn't she already know who he was seeing? It's of interest to a hobbyist IF the provider he's trying to see is actually screening or just going through the motions. We care because a provider that doesn't screen is a sure fire way to end up in trouble that might not even be your own. Safety is in everyone's best interest.
Exactly!! I already know who my clients are seeing when they use me for a reference, because the provider usually contacts me and asks me about him.

I merely offered to go the extra mile for my clients...and let them know whether the provider actually checked or not.
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Old 01-28-2014, 10:30 AM   #21
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...However, I have had clients before talk about how they will give Provider A a reference (Provider B) then later call Provider B to see if he has been checked out. When they find out that Provider A never called Provider B, it worries them about how well the provider screens.

So, Hobbyists do have concerns...
Exactly, Lea. +1!

That's exactly what I was suggesting hobbyists do!

The purpose of this thread was to let hobbyists know that it's no trouble at all for me to confirm that.
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Old 01-28-2014, 10:51 AM   #22
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Actually, I thought it was very nice for GD to offer that. Notice the word "offer". It was not a demand.
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Old 01-28-2014, 12:15 PM   #23
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Actually, I thought it was very nice for GD to offer that. Notice the word "offer". It was not a demand.
I think it's a very nice gesture for the cautious hobby folk. I'm happily single and don't really give a shit but I might rethink my obviously stellar philosophies, as evidenced by my last review.

Unrelated- I lost my puppy yesterday. Hey babee, can you keep an eye out for her over thar in Tennessee? Thx babe
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Old 01-28-2014, 01:39 PM   #24
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Old 01-28-2014, 02:01 PM   #25
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I think it's a very nice gesture for the cautious hobby folk. I'm happily single and don't really give a shit but I might rethink my obviously stellar philosophies, as evidenced by my last review.

Unrelated- I lost my puppy yesterday. Hey babee, can you keep an eye out for her over thar in Tennessee? Thx babe
Firstly, sorry about your dog. As for your last review, the shit smell would have had me out of there quick. We've all been there though.
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Old 01-28-2014, 02:28 PM   #26
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Ah, thanks for the condolences mate, her name is Precious if anyone comes across her here in hobby world. She's easily agitated and likes to bite, so my apologies beforehand.

As for the review, I still hide my head in shame, but to keep on topic...I should have screened more thoroughly. Tis a shame.
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Old 01-28-2014, 04:52 PM   #27
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Hmmmm...did Lynn and Warrior have an off spring???
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