Turkey (a US client state) shoots down a Russian fighter over Turkey (though Russia says otherwise);

[IIFFOFRDB]

Originally Posted by Yssup Rider

Tha Russian's what, SLOBBRIN?

Ignorant fuck.

[LexusLover]

Originally Posted by i'va biggen

Seems the military industrial complex is making new billions with the tensions in the world. With the media fanning the flames there is no end in sight.

You mean the LIBERAL MEDIA .... is fanning the flames of war?

Really?

As for the "military industrial complex" .....

........ would you rather the "complex" make solar panels and sell them overseas?

[WTF]

Originally Posted by LexusLover

I suspect a U.S. pilot would not have "pulled the trigger" in that environment, but at that level in Turkey "the cowboy" doesn't get many opportunities for a notch on "his belt" and took one. The problem is "trigger happy" can start wars and at minimum chill down cooperative opportunities for mutual assistance.

There you go speculating again, Lord help anyone else who does the same.

[i'va biggen]

Originally Posted by LexusLover

You mean the LIBERAL MEDIA .... is fanning the flames of war?

Really?

As for the "military industrial complex" .....

........ would you rather the "complex" make solar panels and sell them overseas?

Still looking for attention lexie?

[WTF]

Originally Posted by LexusLover

You mean the LIBERAL MEDIA .... is fanning the flames of war?

Really?

?

They are fanning the flames of selling advertising ... and Fox News is not Liberal , so STFU with you stupid distortions.

Originally Posted by LexusLover

As for the "military industrial complex" .....

........ would you rather the "complex" make solar panels and sell them overseas?

Yes , as a matter of fucking fact. Be way more productive if we were not promoting war and mayhem.

[Jackie S]

It seems the pilots were shot during their parachute down by the "Turkmen", who are a tribal faction that is aided by Turkey in their efforts to throw out Assad.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...e-Turkmen.html

As best I can tell, Turkey funds their because they are brutally efficient fighters.


I think their attitude is...."he just dropped bombs on us, so h's a dead man".

War is a nasty business. You have Russia and Iran backing Assad, and the NATO Nations in particular backing the Rebels.

This whole "Rebel" thing is confounded by who hates who more, some are Sunni, some are Shiite, they are kinda in that "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" thing at the moment. But, the minute Assad is gone, one of the two will star chanting....." My Gods bigger than your God" and the killing just continues..........

Just like it has for over a thousand years.

By the way. That Russian plane stood no chance against the F-16's. The are designed as air to air combat fighters. The SU-24 is basically a fighter bomber. Bigger, slower, and much more vulnerable in a dogfight.

[WTF]

Originally Posted by Jackie S

It seems the pilots were shot during their parachute down by the "Turkmen", who are a tribal faction that is aided by Turkey in their efforts to throw out Assad.

I think their attitude is...."he just dropped bombs on us, so h's a dead man".

War is a nasty business. You have Russia and Iran backing Assad, and the NATO Nations in particular backing the Rebels.

This whole "Rebel" thing is confounded by who hates who more, some are Sunni, some are Shiite, they are kinda in that "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" thing at the moment. But, the minute Assad is gone, one of the two will star chanting....." My Gos bigger than your God" and the killing just continues..........

Just like it has for over a thousand years.

Exactly and when we needed their oil, it made sense to meddle in their business. Does not make the same sense now. Let Europe , Russia and China sort out the ME.

[LexusLover]

Originally Posted by i'va biggen

Actually the new report ....

Would you happen to have a link to that "new report" .... ? I looked around before I asked .... all I found was the Russians had 2 in the area.

[LexusLover]

Originally Posted by Jackie S

By the way. That Russian plane stood no chance against the F-16's. The are designed as air to air combat fighters. The SU-24 is basically a fighter bomber. Bigger, slower, and much more vulnerable in a dogfight.

JS.. I wasn't suggesting the 24 could out maneuver or even out run, although it is my understanding they are reasonable hot close ground support. I was thinking more of "defensive measures" ..... with the "ears" and "eyes" reference that would have alerted them to perhaps "re-assess" and "re-locate"! There are some "upgrades" of the 24, so I guess right now we aren't 100% certain of the variation shot down.

I'm still looking for the confirmation that 2 Turk 16's were attacking.

[IIFFOFRDB]

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[Rey Lengua]

Originally Posted by i'va biggen

Actually the new report said it was two "tricked out" F16's. Seems the military industrial complex is making new billions with the tensions in the world. With the media fanning the flames there is no end in sight.

"..fanning the flames.." Ekim, is that anything like YOU and YOUR woomby " fanning " ( and WKing for ) each other because YOU are BOTH flamers ?

[LexusLover]

Originally Posted by Rey Lengua

"..fanning the flames.." Ekim, is that anything like YOU and YOUR woomby " fanning " ( and WKing for ) each other because YOU are BOTH flamers ?

Iva-little-one is criticizing jobs programs?

[i'va biggen]

Originally Posted by LexusLover

Would you happen to have a link to that "new report" .... ? I looked around before I asked .... all I found was the Russians had 2 in the area.

Russia had two reports in the area?

[i'va biggen]

Originally Posted by Rey Lengua

"..fanning the flames.." Ekim, is that anything like YOU and YOUR woomby " fanning " ( and WKing for ) each other because YOU are BOTH flamers ?

What about the bet fag boy, are you backing out also?

[The_Waco_Kid]

if this situation isn't handled correctly, the consequences could be ugly. for everyone.

http://www.valuewalk.com/2015/11/rus...ar-war-likely/

it's my guess at present this is nothing more than typical Russian sabre rattling.
let's hope so.