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Originally Posted by WTF
Dumb ass fucking people won't get their god damn kids their vaccination shots.
Should let the little fuckers die. See how long these dumbass parents continue to exempt their kids from these type shots.
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Quoted for posterity. Yeah, let the children die because the parent for whatever reason didn't get the kids their shots, "truth seeker."
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Originally Posted by grean
Help the kids. Beat the parents.
It's borderline neglect if not child endangerment.
The worst part is that they put other people's children at risk who did get vaccinated. Unfortunately just because your kid is vaccinated, if he or she is exposed to enough of that crap, their systems still might not be able to fight it off.
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Speaking of borders, I read where a lot of these "illegal" kids (and adults) have various types of diseases we've come close to eradicating here and they are potentially spreading them across the country. That many have proven they are infected and cannot prove they've had a full range of shots. Some haven't had any shots.
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Originally Posted by oeb11
Vaccinations have resulted in a huge cohort of Americans with no exposure to or idea of the human costs in death and complications of vaccine preventable communicable diseases like typhoid, measles,etc. People mistakenly view these as harmless diseases - but they cause significant deaths and subsequent disabilities.
The disease outbreaks are caused by outside introduction of disease which finds the unvaccinated cohort vulnerable to infection. Vector is the airlines.
The Anti-Vaxxer community is based on fake , disproven research.
Vaccines do cause some side effects - almost always mild, and very rare severe side effects. There is a national Vaccine Compensation fund to care for those very few.
Summary- the morbidity and mortality of vaccines is far, far, less than that of the diseases they prevent.
It is ignorance, false information and media generated fear of vaccines causing these outbreaks of disease.
I grew up in the height of the poliomyelitis epidemic- until the vaccines came along - I remember iron lungs. Polio was almost eradicated from the planet - like smallpox, except for some radical Islamic outposts in Afghanistan and area - the nut cases looked at vaccination as a Capitalist enemy of Islam. Same Stupidity operative with the anti-Vaxxers. Afghanistan and area is a focus of endemic polio cases and ruined lives and deaths of many young people.
Ignorance is curable with Education
Stupidity is only curable by a bullet to the Head.
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If you go to the CDC website you can see how many cases of certain diseases occurs in the USA every years. It's shockingly low for many years of these once devastating diseases. Try the mumps:
https://www.cdc.gov/mumps/outbreaks.html
The problem I have is parent shaming some of these parents as "anti-science", "uncaring", "zealots"....Some of these people are busy. They can't find the $100 to take the kids to the dr or they can't get to the library on the days they are giving out these shots.
My other problem is they are equating the same thing to the flu shot. I've written about this before. Studies RUN BY THE FLU SHOT companies have only shown the flu shot to be 50% effective. In European countries their CDC equivalent only estimates their effectiveness at 20-40%. That's right, "estimates." Because they only put last years top 4 flu viruses in the vaccine. Last year they put the most "popular" flu virus in the vaccine but it was at the end of flu season. The flu virus is at best a crap shoot.
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Originally Posted by oeb11
A thought for those who have had chickenpox.
It recurs in mature adults as "shingles"
Can be very painful and cause permanent scarring - in the eye it is a real problem
New vaccine out is safe and over 90% effective in preventing shingles.
Ask your physician about the shingles vaccine.
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When I got my shingles vax about 3 years ago they said if was only 50% effective and there was a small chance I could get shingles from it. When did this new vaccine come out? I wasn't notified.
My grandfather said he'd rather have another heart attack that another outbreak of the shingles.
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Originally Posted by rexdutchman
yeah just more big Pharm everybody needs vaccines for everything ! Yup life is fatal
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Correct. And nothing is 100% safe or 100% effective.
