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Old 08-14-2019, 03:03 AM   #1
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Default Obummercare keeps dying...and rightfully so.

This unconstitutional nightmare may die before it reaches the SCOTUS. The left in going to go insane over their biggest Gumment power grab in many years. Die baby die!!

The Trump administration announced today that employers will now be exempt from the federal requirement to provide insurance coverage for contraception in their health insurance plans if it conflicts with their sincerely held religious or moral beliefs. This now limits a rule created under the Obama administration’s Affordable Care Act that required that employers, including non-church religious organizations, must cover all forms of contraception, from birth control pills to abortion drugs and devices at no cost to the employees.

https://www.redstate.com/slee/2019/0...-keeps-losing/
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Old 08-14-2019, 10:47 AM   #2
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really? this is your evidence that Obamacare is dying? getting rid of a mandate for including contraception options?

you know Planned Parenthood practically hands pills out for free, right? something like $4 for a set that lasts a month, if you fuck regularly.
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Junior takes what he can get, Chung.
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really? this is your evidence that Obamacare is dying? getting rid of a mandate for including contraception options?

you know Planned Parenthood practically hands pills out for free, right? something like $4 for a set that lasts a month, if you fuck regularly.

Planned Parenthood provides healthcare to hundreds of thousands of underserved people
They have been unfairly demonized by the fake abortion body parts video scam which was taken up by the Right to advance anti-abortion cause.



Abortion is a very small part of the care offered by PP. The right is trying to throw out the baby with the bathwater.
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Another brainless thread from yet another Trumptard! Pathetic how these losers, wearing their dumbass MAGA hats, still support this Racist orange faced Suidae who averages nearly 13 lies or willfully misleading statements per day ever since Russia elected him as our alleged president!
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CT - Thank You, Sir
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Old 08-14-2019, 01:46 PM   #8
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Planned Parenthood provides healthcare to hundreds of thousands of underserved people
They have been unfairly demonized by the fake abortion body parts video scam which was taken up by the Right to advance anti-abortion cause.



Abortion is a very small part of the care offered by PP. The right is trying to throw out the baby with the bathwater.
That would be a lie. Abortion is the single greatest source of income for this "for profit" enterprise.

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"... when federal funds are exempted, 86 percent of Planned Parenthood's revenue comes from abortions."
(The Hill)
"For profit" means that PPH shouldn't receive a single damn penny of taxpayer revenue.


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Old 08-14-2019, 02:01 PM   #9
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Another brainless thread from yet another Trumptard! Pathetic how these losers, wearing their dumbass MAGA hats, still support this Racist orange faced Suidae who averages nearly 13 lies or willfully misleading statements per day ever since Russia elected him as our alleged president!
These losers get their MAGA hats slapped right off their heads when they actually wear them. Scardy cats don’t venture out in public except to rallies and marches.
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Old 08-14-2019, 02:17 PM   #10
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Planned Parenthood has received federal funding since 1970, when President Richard Nixon signed into law the Family Planning Services and Population Research Act, amending the Public Health Service Act. Title X of that law provides funding for family planning services, including contraception and family planning information. The law had support from both Republicans and Democrats.[71] Nixon described Title X funding as based on the premise that "no American woman should be denied access to family planning assistance because of her economic condition."[72]
Donors to Planned Parenthood have included the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation, the Buffett Foundation, the Ford Foundation, the Turner Foundation, the Cullmans, and others.[73][74][75][76] The Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation's contributions to the organization have been specifically marked to avoid funding abortions.[73] Some donors, such as the Buffett Foundation, have supported reproductive health that can include abortion services.[73] Pro-life groups have advocated the boycott of donors to Planned Parenthood.[77] Corporate donors include CREDO Mobile.[78]
In the fiscal year ending June 30, 2014, total revenue was $1.3 billion: non-government health services revenue was $305 million, government revenue (such as Medicaid reimbursements) was $528 million, private contributions totaled $392 million, and $78 million came from other operating revenue.[79] According to Planned Parenthood, 59% of the group's revenue is put towards the provision of health services, while non-medical services such as sex education and public policy work make up another 15%; management expenses, fundraising, and international family planning programs account for about 16%, and 10% of the revenue in 2013–2014 was not spent.[79]
Planned Parenthood receives over a third of its money in government grants and contracts (about $528 million in 2014).[80][79] By law (Hyde Amendment), federal funding cannot be allocated for abortions (except in rare cases),[81] but some opponents of abortion have argued that allocating money to Planned Parenthood for the provision of other medical services allows other funds to be reallocated for abortions.[58]
A coalition of national and local anti-abortion groups have lobbied federal and state governments to stop funding Planned Parenthood. As a result, federal and state legislators have proposed legislation to reduce funding levels.[81][82] Eight states—Alabama, Arkansas, Indiana, Kansas, Louisiana, New Hampshire, Ohio, and Utah—have enacted such proposals.[93] In some cases, the courts have overturned such actions, citing conflict with federal or state laws; in others the federal executive branch has provided funding in lieu of the states.[85][86][94] In some states, Planned Parenthood was completely or partially defunded.[95][96]
In August 2015, Louisiana Governor Bobby Jindal attempted to end Louisiana's contract with Planned Parenthood to treat Medicaid patients at a time when there was an epidemic of sexually transmitted diseases in Louisiana.[59] Planned Parenthood and three patients sued the state of Louisiana, with the United States Department of Justice siding with Planned Parenthood.[97]
On February 2, 2016, the U.S. House failed to override President Obama's veto of H.R. 3762 (Restoring Americans' Healthcare Freedom Reconciliation Act of 2015) which would have prohibited Planned Parenthood from receiving any federal Medicaid funds for one year.[98]
Late in 2016, the Obama administration issued a rule effective in January 2017 banning U.S. states from withholding federal family-planning funds from health clinics that give abortions, including Planned Parenthood affiliates; this rule mandates that local and state governments give federal funds for services related to sexually transmitted infections, pregnancy care, fertility, contraception, and breast and cervical cancer screening to qualified health providers whether or not they give abortions.[99] However, this rule was blocked by a federal judge the day before it would have taken effect.[100] In 2017, it was overturned by new legislation.[101]
The proposed American Health Care Act (H.R. 1628), announced by Congressional Republicans in March 2017, would have made Planned Parenthood "ineligible for Medicaid reimbursements or federal family planning grants."[102]



IBH - your funding statement is inaccurate. I wish abortion should never occur, but the reality is that it is legal. PP provides many needed health care services to the underserved , and the Right Wing persecution against the organization is unwarranted.

As above - the Hyde Amendment prohibits spending federal funds on abortion except in rare cases of rape/incest.
You and i have disagreed on this matter previously - i do not expect to change your opinion.
The value of services provided to underserved women - non abortion services - is in the hundreds of millions of dollars.
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TM/SC/YR - thank You for another worthless name-calling post - when One could have contributed something cogent and constructive.
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These losers get their MAGA hats slapped right off their heads when they actually wear them. Scardy cats don’t venture out in public except to rallies and marches.
I'm waiting on you TM...everyone got to be doing something when the time comes...talk is cheap. Why don't you come slappin'...it's the last stupid thing you'll ever do. You ain't ever seen scardy cat!!
You SC and YR have some big mouths...
Your ideology is so bankrupt all you have is violence to answer with.
Your thug thizzler and chief...

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Planned Parenthood has received federal funding since 1970, when President Richard Nixon signed into law the Family Planning Services and Population Research Act, amending the Public Health Service Act. Title X of that law provides funding for family planning services, including contraception and family planning information. The law had support from both Republicans and Democrats.[71] Nixon described Title X funding as based on the premise that "no American woman should be denied access to family planning assistance because of her economic condition."[72]
Donors to Planned Parenthood have included the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation, the Buffett Foundation, the Ford Foundation, the Turner Foundation, the Cullmans, and others.[73][74][75][76] The Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation's contributions to the organization have been specifically marked to avoid funding abortions.[73] Some donors, such as the Buffett Foundation, have supported reproductive health that can include abortion services.[73] Pro-life groups have advocated the boycott of donors to Planned Parenthood.[77] Corporate donors include CREDO Mobile.[78]
In the fiscal year ending June 30, 2014, total revenue was $1.3 billion: non-government health services revenue was $305 million, government revenue (such as Medicaid reimbursements) was $528 million, private contributions totaled $392 million, and $78 million came from other operating revenue.[79] According to Planned Parenthood, 59% of the group's revenue is put towards the provision of health services, while non-medical services such as sex education and public policy work make up another 15%; management expenses, fundraising, and international family planning programs account for about 16%, and 10% of the revenue in 2013–2014 was not spent.[79]
Planned Parenthood receives over a third of its money in government grants and contracts (about $528 million in 2014).[80][79] By law (Hyde Amendment), federal funding cannot be allocated for abortions (except in rare cases),[81] but some opponents of abortion have argued that allocating money to Planned Parenthood for the provision of other medical services allows other funds to be reallocated for abortions.[58]
A coalition of national and local anti-abortion groups have lobbied federal and state governments to stop funding Planned Parenthood. As a result, federal and state legislators have proposed legislation to reduce funding levels.[81][82] Eight states—Alabama, Arkansas, Indiana, Kansas, Louisiana, New Hampshire, Ohio, and Utah—have enacted such proposals.[93] In some cases, the courts have overturned such actions, citing conflict with federal or state laws; in others the federal executive branch has provided funding in lieu of the states.[85][86][94] In some states, Planned Parenthood was completely or partially defunded.[95][96]
In August 2015, Louisiana Governor Bobby Jindal attempted to end Louisiana's contract with Planned Parenthood to treat Medicaid patients at a time when there was an epidemic of sexually transmitted diseases in Louisiana.[59] Planned Parenthood and three patients sued the state of Louisiana, with the United States Department of Justice siding with Planned Parenthood.[97]
On February 2, 2016, the U.S. House failed to override President Obama's veto of H.R. 3762 (Restoring Americans' Healthcare Freedom Reconciliation Act of 2015) which would have prohibited Planned Parenthood from receiving any federal Medicaid funds for one year.[98]
Late in 2016, the Obama administration issued a rule effective in January 2017 banning U.S. states from withholding federal family-planning funds from health clinics that give abortions, including Planned Parenthood affiliates; this rule mandates that local and state governments give federal funds for services related to sexually transmitted infections, pregnancy care, fertility, contraception, and breast and cervical cancer screening to qualified health providers whether or not they give abortions.[99] However, this rule was blocked by a federal judge the day before it would have taken effect.[100] In 2017, it was overturned by new legislation.[101]
The proposed American Health Care Act (H.R. 1628), announced by Congressional Republicans in March 2017, would have made Planned Parenthood "ineligible for Medicaid reimbursements or federal family planning grants."[102]



IBH - your funding statement is inaccurate. I wish abortion should never occur, but the reality is that it is legal. PP provides many needed health care services to the underserved , and the Right Wing persecution against the organization is unwarranted.

As above - the Hyde Amendment prohibits spending federal funds on abortion except in rare cases of rape/incest.
You and i have disagreed on this matter previously - i do not expect to change your opinion.
The value of services provided to underserved women - non abortion services - is in the hundreds of millions of dollars.
No. You're buying the lie the dim-retards and Planned Parent Hood are propagating -- which is reinforced and guarded by the lib-retard editors at Wikipedia. The Congressional testimony established that 86% of PPH's commercial revenue is garnered through providing abortions.
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Regardless of the disagreement over PP annual budget - abortion is only a small percent of health services delivered.

I also oppose abortion, but am unwilling to destroy an organization that provides needed health care services to the underserved - Without a Replacement for those services- over the abortion issue!
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really? this is your evidence that Obamacare is dying? getting rid of a mandate for including contraception options?

you know Planned Parenthood practically hands pills out for free, right? something like $4 for a set that lasts a month, if you fuck regularly.
Yeah and the chemicals in Birth Control Pills will cause women more problems than any baby ever will. But hey lets don't tell a women what to do with her body. In fact lets don't even tell her of the potential devastating side effects of the pill we don't want big Pharma to go broke.
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