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Old 12-02-2019, 05:52 PM   #1
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I see alot in my local paper that a CI sold "Medicine" or purchesed it from a user...
Now said users are being looked for by uncle leo...

Can this happen with us?
Can i bang some chick and her be turning statea evidence the entire time?
Like could I leave happy, and in two weeks my have a warrent?

Whats the diffrence?

Cuz at some point in tine its hard not to incriminate yourself...
When my dicks out and i agree to a $20 up charge for that 1 thing I like, thats trouble.


Ok thanks guys!
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Old 12-02-2019, 10:40 PM   #2
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I think the more likely scenario is you hobby with her. Get busted right after you hobbied with her, and the PD goes thru her phone. To shake up the community, the PD starts making phone calls to rattle hobbiests, or get them to admit to a crime.

Best to have a hobby phone that is off when you don't want to hobby.
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Old 12-03-2019, 08:51 AM   #3
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I know in my town they pull people over leaving.... well damn it they are using her as bait.
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Old 12-06-2019, 08:55 AM   #4
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I see alot in my local paper that a CI sold "Medicine" or purchesed it from a user...
Now said users are being looked for by uncle leo...

Can this happen with us?
Can i bang some chick and her be turning statea evidence the entire time?
Like could I leave happy, and in two weeks my have a warrent?

Ok thanks guys!
LE can use CIs to do whatever the hell they want, and the CIs themselves can make huge money turning you or any other offender into LE.

See the link: https://www.post-gazette.com/news/na...s/201404270144

I haven't heard about this in the hobby too much... yet, but it's another reason to only hobby abroad.

LE is saying men paying for sex is the reason human trafficking exists and cracking down. I think it is bs and LE is looking for money, but they are arresting johns like never before.
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Old 12-07-2019, 12:29 AM   #5
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Damn good thing my name isnt john then!

But thanks!
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Old 12-09-2019, 08:49 AM   #6
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Damn good thing my name isnt john then!

But thanks!
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Old 12-10-2019, 07:46 AM   #7
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What’s happening for 20?
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Old 12-30-2019, 12:14 PM   #8
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Life is a risk, you will not get alive of it.
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Old 12-31-2019, 05:29 PM   #9
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A couple years ago, here in Maine, they busted a girl who had been running a 'Zumba dance studio'.

She had installed hidden cameras in her dance studio, and she was filming each customer.

The town Pd only had two LEOs who were mostly tasked to write parking tickets. So they had to ask the state for help and funding.

Newspaper articles kept the story on the front page for 18 months. It was the biggest crime of the decade.

Between her 'black book' and her phone contacts, she had a long list of possible clients. The papers published every name. Each man was called in for interrogation. Some confessed and added more names to the list.

When it was finally all done. I read one article where they summed how much money was spent to investigate. It was like $180k that was spent and they got the girl on a $30 misdemeanor conviction.
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Old 12-31-2019, 08:46 PM   #10
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uncle leo can and does break the law to get an arrest and wastes lots of taxpayer money to do it.

they do use ci's in the hobby to go in and have sex of whatever mode to completion and pay them to do it with your tax dollars. sometimes the officers themselves have been known to do it.

people get pulled over when leaving a suspected provider's location so that they can be identified and possibly arrested later.

all of this to get government grant money under the guise of human and sex trafficking to bust people who are having consensual sex and have nothing to do with actual human trafficking.

the result is misdemeanor cases that many times get dismissed and cause people a lot of money, pain and grief. rarely are any traffickers stopped or providers helped because leo goes for the easy low hanging fruit and not actual traffickers or trafficking activity.
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It's a sad cycle but my other head is too stubborn to quit hobby.
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Old 01-04-2020, 09:39 AM   #12
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It's a sad cycle but my other head is too stubborn to quit hobby.
Seems were all in the same boat after all we are still here
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Old 01-04-2020, 03:14 PM   #13
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Seems were all in the same boat after all we are still here
yup.. let's try to keep from rocking the boat, I would hate to add sea sickness to my list of woes.
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http://policeprostitutionandpolitics...ploitation.pdf


https://cbsaustin.com/news/local/tex...sexual-assault



do not EVER trust pigs


i was assigned as a civilian to work with undercover cops in my late twenties but the job i was hired to do was not law enforcement related



after seeing corruption after corruption instances I finally just walked out and said I quit


yes fake charges are created ALL the time and the pigs just sit back and laugh




this went on routinely:
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...-raid-n1086776
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Old 01-18-2020, 09:26 PM   #15
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Two things to keep in mind when on either side of a case



1.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chain_of_custody


2.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fruit_...poisonous_tree.


Or this will happen



nolle prosequi


Hate to pay big bucks for the best legal defense and get to minutes before the trial where you know the outcome only to have a nolle prosequi anounced .


B.S !!!


Letigate Letigate letigate !!!!!


If you want to read a good landmark case study the state of Minnesota VS Carter .
https://www.casebriefs.com/blog/law/...ta-v-carter-3/
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