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Old 08-13-2019, 10:27 PM   #16
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how was Reagan screwed?
Tip O'Neil reneged on creating an immigration reform bill in exchange for the amnesty deal, and here you are 35 years later mischaracterizing what happened.
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Old 08-13-2019, 10:31 PM   #17
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how was Reagan screwed?
Reading and comprehension are your friend...

"I believe in the idea of amnesty," Reagan once declared.

The memory of 1986 haunts the current debate, providing lessons on what to avoid but also one of the biggest obstacles to success.

"The big problem with immigration is convincing people in the country that it won't turn into a 1986 endgame," conceded Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., who is among the bipartisan Gang of 8 working toward a bill.

Graham, Florida Sen. Marco Rubio and the rest of the group are struggling to convince others that the path to citizenship being considered this time is not amnesty because undocumented residents would have to pay fines and go through a series of hoops before getting in back of the line to seek a green card.

Despite early momentum, fueled in part by the GOP's dismal performance among Hispanics in the November elections, the A-word continues to burn hot.

"This is the same old formula that we've dealt with before, including when it passed in 1986, and that is promises of enforcement and immediate amnesty. And of course the promises of enforcement never materialize," Sen. David Vitter, R-La., said on a radio show last week. He attacked Rubio, the son of Cuban immigrants and potential 2016 Republican presidential candidate, as "amazingly naive."

http://www.tampabay.com/news/politic...debate/1273597
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Old 08-13-2019, 10:40 PM   #18
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I think the raids do basically nothing, as far as thwarting illegal immigration. you realize this has been an issue since Eisenhower, right? Reagan was the biggest Amnesty President. the Republicans double-talk, just as they do with deficits.. pretend to abhor both, but in fact, are the biggest purveyors. big business WANTS illegals, so they can get cheap labor with no benefits paid. that's why Employers are never arrested, Republicans have their back.
It's just Republicans...GOTCHA!!
The Democrap plan...Decriminalize "ILLEGAL" immigration.

https://www.businessinsider.com/obam...borders-2019-7

You have NO agenda
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Old 08-13-2019, 11:02 PM   #19
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The Mississippi raid, imho, was one big publicity stunt.

Everybody got some red meat. On both sides. Now there are only victims, again.

All the stupid, ignorant barely-literate, schoolyard bullshit aside, this has to be solved, don’t you think?

This can’t be the America anybody signed up for.
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Old 08-13-2019, 11:10 PM   #20
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This can’t be the America anybody signed up for.
What America did you sign up for...one like Venezuela??
You have me on "ignoring" so that will be one less worthless response.
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Old 08-14-2019, 07:31 AM   #21
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A Venezuela style totalitarian dictatorship is clearly the goal for the DPST's.
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Old 08-14-2019, 07:40 AM   #22
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Another lie.

But at this point, you’ve told it 106 times.

How totally Trumpian of you.

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Old 08-14-2019, 07:45 AM   #23
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Okay sooo what ideeoit believes that the Mississippi Enforcement action was just Happenstance ? or Political
Maybe workers using many of the same SS Numbers , History of company ETC They Just Didn't pick this place " drivin down the road ,,,,,"
The LSM will ever answer that question TRUTHFULLY ( or even look into why-- doesn't fit there narrative)
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Old 08-14-2019, 07:50 AM   #24
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Another lie.

But at this point, you’ve to,d it 106 times.



Does the Axis of Socialism have anything to add to the debate?
other than sitting in Mom's basement counting up numbers of perceived deviations from DPST narrative? How pathetic!

SomeOne needs to get out of the absement and realize there is a world of personal endeavor, personal responsibility, and disregard for the DPST naratie out in the USA and many other parts of the world.

Thank you, VP
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Old 08-14-2019, 08:15 AM   #25
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Does the Axis of Socialism have anything to add to the debate?
other than sitting in Mom's basement counting up numbers of perceived deviations from DPST narrative? How pathetic!

SomeOne needs to get out of the absement and realize there is a world of personal endeavor, personal responsibility, and disregard for the DPST naratie out in the USA and many other parts of the world.

Thank you, VP
I suppose someOne got his tender little feelings hurt.

SomeOne needs to answer the question: DO OWN A MAGA HAT, YES OR NO?

Meanwhile, your amorous advances are unwanted and very likely illegal.
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Old 08-14-2019, 08:19 AM   #26
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The RTM button is your Friend.!!!
These response posts only get more and more bizarre!
Thank you - VP!
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