Moore accuser admits lying about yearbook.

[garhkal]

Originally Posted by the_real_Barleycorn

Since I'm on my Kindle and in a hurry, I'll let you look it up. ABC is also implicated by putting words in her mouth. They knew the story was false. Probably Allred as well.

SO will any of the lame stream pundits, say "GEE, looks like moore was right!".. OR will they just say "So what, her claims are still credible".

Originally Posted by begmie

so when just a little bit of it's a lie....we're supposed to blindly believe the rest??.....All credibility is gone (if there ever was any) now!!

Now we will see if the people in charge, start DOING THEIR bloody job and charging these FALSE accusers..

Originally Posted by goodolboy

I think the deficit is a byproduct of over spending, like Obama doubling our debt by 10 trillion dollars. I don't think letting people keep a little more of the money they earned drove the deficit to it's current levels.

Exactly. TILL entitlements get tackled, our spending will never get reduced.

[JCM800]

Is this new yearbook info somehow supposed to overshadow what a piece of crap Moore is?




The fact this guy still even has any support at this point is the real story here. Just another shining example of a Trump America, right?

[bambino]

Originally Posted by WTF

Yes for your short time in office before getting thrown out on your ass!

Look, it is good politics by the GOP.

Fucking NJ's senator got to be loving all the attention sexual harassment is getting , ain't nobody paying attention to graft no more!

Or his under aged prostitutes in the Dominican!!!!!

[goodolboy]

Double tap

[goodolboy]

Originally Posted by JCM800

Is this new yearbook info somehow supposed to overshadow what a piece of crap Moore is?




The fact this guy still even has any support at this point is the real story here. Just another shining example of a Trump America, right?

Your over thinking it. It's pretty simple, the voters have a choice between a conservative Republican with questionable, un proven 40 year old accusations against him, or a liberal democrat with a record of being a liberal for a senate seat.. My bet is that the majority in Alabama will vote for the conservative republican for the senate. If he is later removed, the republican Governor will appoint another republican to replace him. This ain't rocket science.

[bambino]

Originally Posted by WTF

Yes overspending and undertaxed. A combo.

Now are you willing to cut military spending?

You realize wtf this GOP plan is , is to cut taxes. Give the donor class the majority of the tax breaks.

Drive up the deficit.

Then claim we have to cut SS and Medicare because of the deficit.

Which basically is a transfer of your SS and Medicare savings to the DONOR class right now. So they want to cut taxes for the wealthy and give them that tax break now.....next year they are saying h
"hey look how high the deficit is getting! We need to cut SS and Medicare benefits to pay for the tax cuts to the wealthy we just gave!"

Do you understand that unless you are really wealthy , how fucking stupid that is?

Read wtf Paul Ryan JUST SAID ABOUT THIS...

https://www.salon.com/2017/12/07/pau...-cuts-in-2018/







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45% of Americans don’t pay Federal income taxes. I suggest you start taxing them.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/beltway...ncome-tax/amp/

And we have cut defense spending under Obama. It was called the sequester. Now the military has outdated and equipment in disrepair. There are now more troops killed in training than combat. You fucking idiot.

[SpeedRacerXXX]

Originally Posted by bambino

Breitbart is twice as bad? That’s just your opinion. Not fact or reality.

Of course it is an opinion. My point is that Breitbart and Mother Goose are both biased in their "reporting" and should not be used to validate one's opinion. I have been chastised by several people on the right on this forum for using Mother Goose once or twice to support my POV so I refrain from using it any more. So what's good for the "Mother Goose" should be good for the "Breitbart".

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by WTF

Who isn't getting paid? Trump, you think Trump is not getting paid?

The SOB is changing the tax laws to his benefit by billions of dollars!

Who but other Billionaire and ignorant fucks who do not understand tax ramifications want him to do this kind of job.

Hell even you a couple of years ago cried about the deficit. Now you are cheering the transfer of Trillions of dollars to the donor class(The swamp creatures you so detest) and are so fucking ignorant , you haven't a clue.

I would vote him shot or hung....makes no difference to me.

Did a poor person ever give you job??? I think not. It is those with money that make jobs and when there is more money in their pockets, there is more hiring, more hiring done, more people pay taxes, that Sir will bring done the deficit. Not really rocket science.

[Cherie]

[QUOTE=WTF;1060261722][QUOTE=goodolboy;1060261688] The MSM also failed to mention that one of the accusers had her brother sent to prison by Moore.
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What about the other eight?

And according to Roy Moore's own book ...this is how he met his first wife and remembered her when she was very young!


http://www.al.com/news/index.ssf/201...et_his_wi.html

You keep forgetting, "legal age" in Alabama is 16, if he did do something with a 16 yr old it was not illegal. Get it?????????????

Besides there was a time not so long ago that older men always married much younger women, I found out my grandfather was 32 yrs my grandmothers's senior, they had 14 children and stayed married until he passed at the tender age of 90.

The 100th monkey effect takes place throughout history, at one point in history things are fine we move to another point in history that changes all that. Does that make the people who lived their generational history bad?? You decide.

[SpeedRacerXXX]

Originally Posted by goodolboy

I think the deficit is a byproduct of over spending, like Obama doubling our debt by 10 trillion dollars. I don't think letting people keep a little more of the money they earned drove the deficit to it's current levels.

The last major tax cut we received was under George Bush, for whom I voted twice.

"The biggest tax policy changes enacted under President George W. Bush were the 2001 and 2003 tax cuts, often referred to as the “Bush tax cuts” but formally named the Economic Growth and Tax Relief Reconciliation Act of 2001 (EGTRRA) and the Jobs and Growth Tax Relief Reconciliation Act of 2003 (JGTRRA). High-income taxpayers benefitted most from these tax cuts, with the top 1 percent of households receiving an average tax cut of over $570,000 between 2004-2012 (increasing their after-tax income by more than 5 percent each year). Despite promises from proponents of the tax cuts, evidence suggests that they did not improve economic growth or pay for themselves, but instead ballooned deficits and debt and contributed to a rise in income inequality."

Source: https://www.cbpp.org/research/federa...-bush-tax-cuts

When Bush entered office the deficit was zero. ZERO!!! When he left office the deficit was $5.849 trillion, an increase of 101% from the deficit he inherited. Yes, Obama added $7.917 trillion to the deficit, but increased the deficit by only 68%, and he was handed a huge recession and had to spend to get out of it, which he did.

The point is to not assume that the tax plan proposal in Congress is certainly not a guarantee that it will stimulate the economy in any way. And it will balloon the deficit.

Based on what we currently know, can you estimate how the budget plan will impact you?

[bambino]

Originally Posted by JCM800

Is this new yearbook info somehow supposed to overshadow what a piece of crap Moore is?




The fact this guy still even has any support at this point is the real story here. Just another shining example of a Trump America, right?

If you want to direct your ire, direct it at the right place. Alabama voters will decide. If Moore wins, travel over to Huntsville Alabama and speak your mind.

[bamscram]

Originally Posted by bambino

If you want to direct your ire, direct it at the right place. Alabama voters will decide. If Moore wins, travel over to Huntsville Alabama and speak your mind.

People supporting Moore are the same ones saying it is a womans fault she was raped.

[SpeedRacerXXX]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Did a poor person ever give you job??? I think not. It is those with money that make jobs and when there is more money in their pockets, there is more hiring, more hiring done, more people pay taxes, that Sir will bring done the deficit. Not really rocket science.

I worked for corporations. Corporations will make out very well with the tax proposals. However, that does not mean that they will hire more people. They may instead buy back their stock and increase shareholder dividends.

By my best estimates, I will get maybe $100 a month more if the new tax plan goes into affect. And I am on the high end of the middle class. Most will get much less. Not exactly a huge payday for most of us.

Unemployment is at 4.1%. Companies with high-paying jobs can't find qualified people to fill positions. Unless there is increased demand for their products, corporations will not hire more people. The extra $100 I might get a month is not going to put me in the market for a new car. Maybe a dishwasher.

If you like, I will give you links to articles which run contrary to your opinion that tax breaks bring down the deficit. You can read my post for "goodolboy" which is one such article.

[goodolboy]

Originally Posted by bamscram

People supporting Moore are the same ones saying it is a womams fault she was raped.

Did that same standard apply to the people who supported Bill Clinton who was elected twice? I never heard a democrat say a word about that, while his wife was running for office, or before. Did you ever vote for a Clinton or support them?

[goodolboy]

Originally Posted by SpeedRacerXXX

The last major tax cut we received was under George Bush, for whom I voted twice.

"The biggest tax policy changes enacted under President George W. Bush were the 2001 and 2003 tax cuts, often referred to as the “Bush tax cuts” but formally named the Economic Growth and Tax Relief Reconciliation Act of 2001 (EGTRRA) and the Jobs and Growth Tax Relief Reconciliation Act of 2003 (JGTRRA). High-income taxpayers benefitted most from these tax cuts, with the top 1 percent of households receiving an average tax cut of over $570,000 between 2004-2012 (increasing their after-tax income by more than 5 percent each year). Despite promises from proponents of the tax cuts, evidence suggests that they did not improve economic growth or pay for themselves, but instead ballooned deficits and debt and contributed to a rise in income inequality."

Source: https://www.cbpp.org/research/federa...-bush-tax-cuts

When Bush entered office the deficit was zero. ZERO!!! When he left office the deficit was $5.849 trillion, an increase of 101% from the deficit he inherited. Yes, Obama added $7.917 trillion to the deficit, but increased the deficit by only 68%, and he was handed a huge recession and had to spend to get out of it, which he did.

The point is to not assume that the tax plan proposal in Congress is certainly not a guarantee that it will stimulate the economy in any way. And it will balloon the deficit.

Based on what we currently know, can you estimate how the budget plan will impact you?

Amount Added to the Debt for Each Fiscal Year Since 1960:

Barack Obama: Added $7.917 trillion, a 68 percent increase from the $11.657 trillion debt at the end of George W. Bush’s last budget, FY 2009.

• FY 2016 - $1.423 trillion.
• FY 2015 - $327 billion.
• FY 2014 - $1.086 trillion.
• FY 2013 - $672 billion.
• FY 2012 - $1.276 trillion.
• FY 2011 - $1.229 trillion.
• FY 2010 - $1.652 trillion.
• FY 2009 - $253 billion. (Congress passed the Economic Stimulus Act, which spent $253 billion in FY 2009. This rare occurrence should be added to President Obama's contribution to the debt.)

George W. Bush: Added $5.849 trillion, a 101 percent increase from the $5.8 trillion debt at the end of Clinton's last budget, FY 2001.

• FY 2009 - $1.632 trillion. (Bush's deficit without the impact of the Economic Stimulus Act).
• FY 2008 - $1.017 trillion.
• FY 2007 - $501 billion.
• FY 2006 - $574 billion.
• FY 2005 - $554 billion.
• FY 2004 - $596 billion.
• FY 2003 - $555 billion.
• FY 2002 - $421 billion.

Bill Clinton: Added $1.396 trillion, a 32 percent increase from the $4.4 trillion debt at the end of George H.W. Bush's last budget, FY 1993.

• FY 2001 - $133 billion.
• FY 2000 - $18 billion.
• FY 1999 - $130 billion.
• FY 1998 - $113 billion.
• FY 1997 - $188 billion.
• FY 1996 - $251 billion.
• FY 1995 - $281 billion.
• FY 1994 - $281 billion.

https://www.thebalance.com/us-debt-b...ercent-3306296