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Old 06-20-2019, 09:43 AM   #1
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Default Board Libs: Why Do You Hate President Trump?

Question to the board Liberals/Progressives: Why do you hate President Trump? I know, you don't hate him, you just dislike him with the intensity of 10,000 suns. This isn't a trick question.

Try to be specific. If you wanna say because "he's a facist" then give a acts or behaviors of facism to support the claim.

Be honest with yourself. Thanks in advance for your considered responses.
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Old 06-20-2019, 10:00 AM   #2
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Because he signed FOSTA/SESTA into law.
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Old 06-20-2019, 10:02 AM   #3
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Because he signed FOSTA/SESTA into law.
It was veto proof. Come up with something better than that.
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Old 06-20-2019, 10:16 AM   #4
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Oh I get it, you guys are trolling. I can troll too!
He is a bad speller.
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His hair.
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Old 06-20-2019, 10:27 AM   #5
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I see you're a one issue voter...
I can't see ANY issue that I align with the left on...
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Old 06-20-2019, 10:29 AM   #6
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Question to the board Liberals/Progressives: Why do you hate President Trump? I know, you don't hate him, you just dislike him with the intensity of 10,000 suns. This isn't a trick question.

Try to be specific. If you wanna say because "he's a facist" then give a acts or behaviors of facism to support the claim.

Be honest with yourself. Thanks in advance for your considered responses.
I'll bite.

Never really have considered myself a true Liberal although it seems like, for now, that's (philosophically) where I reside.

I'd like to add that as a past card-carrying Republican, it's not the same party as it was when I volunteered, and did other work, for the party itself.

And its seems a lot of other past Republicans agree.

So to answer your question, I don't like President Trump because of the way that he speaks. His values do not align with mine at all.

For me, the Presidencey is almost sacred. Seriously. I might not have been overly fond of some past leaders, from both parties, but they always showed the respect that the office deserves.

I'm speaking of attitude. The way he speaks and riles people up. The cursing. The simple vulgarity.

And the double speak. You wanted examples of each but there are so many that are obvious, well, his "I'm so mistreated!" statements compared to the way that he's hatcheted his enemies, verbally and otherwise, he's such a hypocrite.

Second. The hate that he's generated. This is what concerns me.

I'm being bullied, in bed, by Trump folks. Seriously. It's happened. Why? Never has happened with other world leaders. But since Trump, it seems as if poor behaviors are acceptable now.

And yes, I blame Trump for the lack of just basic manners going on with certain people these days. It's concerning.

Also, I've never believed that he was this huge and successful business person that others crow about.

I'm of an age that remembers Trump as being this really handsome guy who would be at Studio 54 yucking it up with the elite, etc. Covers on People Magazine. He's been around for decades. And I thought the same thing about him back then.

All show. Little substance.

So that's just a few of the reasons that I don't appreciate the Trump presidency.

Finally, his overall lack of knowledge, schooling, and it seems as if he could be in the beginnings of dementia. I mean, I watch Fox News to just see the other side. Usually check in once a day.

Doubt if you put a blank map in front of Trump and asked where Iran was, that he could answer. Probably couldn't even pick out the continent the country is located.

THAT just starts with a few of my issues concerning Trump. And all of these sex workers that are just SO pro-Trump?

Just boggles the mind. Seriously.

I have close friends, and family, who are Trump supporters. You asked for specific examples, may I have the same? All that I hear about his accomplishments are over the top generalizations. Nothing specific.

Seems to me the policies that he's been putting in place is hurting the average Joe. Certainly not helping the farmers or others. He is just suggesting the positive and gas lighting his base.

All untrue from the outside looking in.

Alright ... start throwing the rotten tomatoes at me. I can handle it.

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Old 06-20-2019, 10:32 AM   #7
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Oh I get it, you guys are trolling. I can troll too!
He is a bad speller.
His penis looks like a certain Mario character.
His hair.
You’ve seen his penis?
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Old 06-20-2019, 10:34 AM   #8
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I'll bite.

Never really have considered myself a true Liberal although it seems like, for now, that's (philosophically) where I reside.

I'd like to add that as a past card-carrying Republican, it's not the same party as it was when I volunteered, and did other work, for the party itself.

And its seems a lot of other past Republicans agree.

So to answer your question, I don't like President Trump because of the way that he speaks. His values do not align with mine at all.

For me, the Presidencey is almost sacred. Seriously. I might not have been overly fond of some past leaders, from both parties, but they always showed the respect that the office deserves.

I'm speaking of attitude. The way he speaks and riles people up. The cursing. The simple vulgarity.

And the double speak. You wanted examples of each but there are so many that are obvious, well, his "I'm so mistreated!" statements compared to the way that he's hatcheted his enemies, verbally and otherwise, he's such a hypocrite.

Second. The hate that he's generated. This is what concerns me.

I'm being bullied, in bed, by Trump folks. Seriously. It's happened. Why? Never has happened with other world leaders. But since Trump, it seems as if poor behaviors are acceptable now.

And yes, I blame Trump for the lack of just basic manners going on with certain people these days. It's concerning.

Also, I've never believed that he was this huge and successful business person that others crow about.

I'm of an age that remembers Trump as being this really handsome guy who would be at Studio 54 yucking it up with the elite, etc. Covers on People Magazine. He's been around for decades. And I thought the same thing about him back then.

All show. Little substance.

So that's just a few of the reasons that I don't appreciate the Trump presidency.

Finally, his overall lack of knowledge, schooling, and it seems as if he could be in the beginnings of dementia. I mean, I watch Fox News to just see the other side. Usually check in once a day.

Doubt if you put a blank map in front of Trump and asked where Iran was, that he could answer. Probably couldn't even pick out the continent the country is located in.

THAT just starts with a few of my issues concerning Trump. And all of these sex workers that are just SO pro-Trump?

Just boggles the mind. Seriously.

Alright ... start throwing the rotten tomatoes at me. I can handle it.

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He’s been to Iraq, I’m sure he knows Iran is next door.
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Because he signed FOSTA/SESTA into law.
Just as many Democrats were for this law as anyone else. The bill was supported by most.
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He’s been to Iraq, I’m sure he knows Iran is next door.
"I'm sure."

Seems like a rather obscure thing to assume this person would know. He doesn't seem to be geographically inclined when listening to him speak, which I've been doing for a long while.

I was suggesting if you put a blank map in front of him (large and simple would be fine in this equation!) and suggested to him, please point to A, he would not be able to.

Just a guess.

Hope that I'm incorrect.

Doubt it.

I just think that a President should be able to point to a country on an unlabeled map before going to war with them.
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Old 06-20-2019, 10:56 AM   #11
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"I'm sure."

Seems like a rather obscure thing to assume this person would know. He doesn't seem to be geographically inclined when listening to him speak, which I've been doing for a long while.

I was suggesting if you put a blank map in front of him (large and simple would be fine in this equation!) and suggested to him, please point to A, he would not be able to.

Just a guess.

Hope that I'm incorrect.

Doubt it.

I just think that a President should be able to point to a country on an unlabeled map before going to war with them.
To say any POTUS doesn’t know where Iran is located is patently silly. Trump has been to Iraq, Saudi Arabia and Israel. He has bombed Syria. I’m quite sure he knows where Iran is located. Do you?
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Oh I get it, you guys are trolling. I can troll too!
He is a bad speller.
His penis looks like a certain Mario character.
His hair.
I'm NOT trolling. Like I said, this wasn't a trick question.
Bambino, and others, give the responders some leeway.
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Hitler just swiped his hand across the map...no need for formalities
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He is a bad speller.
His penis looks like a certain Mario character.
His hair.
Since you've seen his penis how does it compare to his hands? Hahahaha....
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To say any POTUS doesn’t know where Iran is located is patently silly. Trump has been to Iraq, Saudi Arabia and Israel. He has bombed Syria. I’m quite sure he knows where Iran is located. Do you?
First, before I answer, I'm appreciating this back and forth between us. Like your thoughts.

Anyway, no. I'd have to look up Iraq on a map. But we're not comparing apples to oranges here. Not really in the same phylum, if we wish to go there.

And for the record, and I just thought of this(!), I've been to Peru, Costa Rica and Belize. It's been a fairly long time since I've been to Central America. Over 10 years.

But even though I've visited these places, for weeks at a time, I might be slightly challenged to find any one of these on a map at any given time. Same with Europe.

And I consider myself half-way smart (last couple of years, I'll freely admit to losing IQ points. haha).

Still not sure why you consider my argument to be silly. Patently silly, at that.
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