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Old 05-05-2019, 12:08 AM   #16
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Most likely it was a hotel where there is a lot of activity, or someone recently made a complaint to law enforcement about a particular person at the hotel, perhaps the provider you saw. They probably wouldn't have arrested you, but either way its good that you didn't tell on the provider, especially if you care about her well being as if the police get people to admit to seeing the girl, they will have probable cause and they will form a sting targeting people at that hotel.

When encountering the police, its good to always be respectful at first. But when they start questioning you about a crime, ask them if you are being detained or if you are free to go. Do not continue telling them different stories as that just looks bad on your part, its best to say nothing at all. When asked for consent to search your property or persons you say word for word, "I do not consent to searches." No matter what you think you may not have on you, just never consent to a search. Don't let the police bully you into telling. Police are allowed to lie by the way. They are allowed to say they know you committed a crime even if they don't know. They are allowed to say just about anything to get you to admit guilt.
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Old 05-05-2019, 12:11 AM   #17
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That was advice given to me by a lawyer, and a law professor.. I have never been in any criminal trouble so I would consider it excellent advice to not talk to the police. If you are not being detained they have no right to keep you there for questioning.
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Old 05-06-2019, 12:51 PM   #18
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@NicoleBBW - thank you for the good feedback.
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Old 05-07-2019, 07:49 AM   #19
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A JAG attorney once told me " You cant talk yourself outa jail , But you can talk yourself INTO jail"
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Old 05-07-2019, 03:35 PM   #20
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A JAG attorney once told me " You cant talk yourself outa jail , But you can talk yourself INTO jail"
Back when I was attending a federal police academy, one of the lessons that stayed with me, as an FBI statistic looking at all convictions.

Even though nearly everyone in court will plead 'not guilty' over 80% of all convictions come from the suspect admitting to the crime.

The arresting officer may have had sufficient evidence to give him 'probable cause' it is rarely strong enough evidence to result in a conviction.
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Old 05-07-2019, 09:45 PM   #21
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Words of wisdom. Not just for dispensaries.


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gv7uJUX3160
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Old 05-07-2019, 11:15 PM   #22
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Back when I was attending a federal police academy, one of the lessons that stayed with me, as an FBI statistic looking at all convictions.

Even though nearly everyone in court will plead 'not guilty' over 80% of all convictions come from the suspect admitting to the crime.

The arresting officer may have had sufficient evidence to give him 'probable cause' it is rarely strong enough evidence to result in a conviction.
So true....loose lips are always a problem.
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Old 05-12-2019, 10:08 PM   #23
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Got pulled over for "shopping" at a no-tel where ladies do incalls (some are scary, but some advertise on reputable sites, including here, and will do QV for a deep discount over regular rates).


Had an unmarked car follow me out of the parking lot and into traffic. There is a private business that shares an access road with the no-tel. When asked what I was doing behind the no-tel I said I was circling to avoid cutting through the parking lot of the business - which I could do by getting to the back access road.



I had a reasonable story, and said it looked like a pretty bad place and maybe I should be thanking them for being around to protect naive people like me.



The line I got when pulled over, though: "your license didn't show up in our computer system and we were worried it was a stolen car."



Uh-huh.


Nothing overly wrong about driving through the parking lot of a public business, right?



They asked for some proof of ownership (two cops, one at each window, by the way) and I said, "I can get you my license and insurance...would that help?"


I start to open my center forearm console and freeze - I look up and say, "I'm really sorry, I'm not thinking - my license and insurance are in here...sorry to freak you out."


I go SLOW and get both along with my work ID badge. I had a very true work story about why I might be in the area and somewhat randomly driving around.



I was told, "lots of drugs and prostitution and human trafficking in that hotel, so be careful."


I thanked them and drove off.


Odd as it sounds, I tend to have a story and hobby within it. That way, I know in advance what I'll say and can even rehearse my lines. And, it serves as a nice buffer against stupidity - if I can't keep within my story then I am not being safe.
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Old 05-13-2019, 09:19 AM   #24
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Words of wisdom. Not just for dispensaries.


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gv7uJUX3160
This right here!!!!!! There's a longer vid of this from them, it all makes sense!!!!
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