CCP VS. USA

[dilbert firestorm]

https://americanmind.org/features/th...rty-v-america/

In wars, men die.

President Trump has taken bold and decisive steps to stop the spread of the Wuhan virus across America. In doing so, he has become a wartime president. But the enemy he is fighting is the Chinese Communist Party. Long before this crisis, the CCP was waging political and economic war against the United States. The Wuhan virus is merely another weapon in this war. As a nation we need to understand this immediately, since the first casualty has been the material well-being of the American people.

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Although it is not the position of our government that the CCP was behind the creation and weaponization of the Chinese virus, we need to at least entertain the notion that a nation that has, in the recent past, killed tens of millions of its own people would not think twice about killing thousands or even millions of other peoples from other countries if it meant putting them in a greater strategic position and helping them fulfill their objective of a communist world order

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We need to take reasonable measures to prevent the spread of the virus. But the President needs to get Americans back to work as soon as possible. In wars men die. This war with the CCP is no different. As precious as we Americans believe each life is, this is about our freedom and our economic ability to defend that freedom. That will only happen when we are back to work and building the industrial capacity that will free us from Communist China. This can happen none too soon.

As far as China is concerned, the end justifies the means of which they tried to do.

the only way they can be top dog on this planet is to weaken the West and USA. there can be only one major power at time.

its possible that we are seeing a replay of the punic wars. if that's not a good analogy, let me know what it is.

[andymarksman]

Nuke 'em!

[Tiny]

Originally Posted by dilbert firestorm

https://americanmind.org/features/th...rty-v-america/

In wars, men die.

President Trump has taken bold and decisive steps to stop the spread of the Wuhan virus across America. In doing so, he has become a wartime president. But the enemy he is fighting is the Chinese Communist Party. Long before this crisis, the CCP was waging political and economic war against the United States. The Wuhan virus is merely another weapon in this war. As a nation we need to understand this immediately, since the first casualty has been the material well-being of the American people.

...

Although it is not the position of our government that the CCP was behind the creation and weaponization of the Chinese virus, we need to at least entertain the notion that a nation that has, in the recent past, killed tens of millions of its own people would not think twice about killing thousands or even millions of other peoples from other countries if it meant putting them in a greater strategic position and helping them fulfill their objective of a communist world order

...

We need to take reasonable measures to prevent the spread of the virus. But the President needs to get Americans back to work as soon as possible. In wars men die. This war with the CCP is no different. As precious as we Americans believe each life is, this is about our freedom and our economic ability to defend that freedom. That will only happen when we are back to work and building the industrial capacity that will free us from Communist China. This can happen none too soon.

As far as China is concerned, the end justifies the means of which they tried to do.

the only way they can be top dog on this planet is to weaken the West and USA. there can be only one major power at time.

its possible that we are seeing a replay of the punic wars. if that's not a good analogy, let me know what it is.

It all makes sense now. We need to nuke China.

This load of crap makes about as much sense as the Chinese theory that the American military unleashed the virus.

[friendly fred]

Originally Posted by Tiny

It all makes sense now. We need to nuke China.

This load of crap makes about as much sense as the Chinese theory that the American military unleashed the virus.

Look at all the pollution those vehicles spew - plus the Chinese government suppresses Muslims - plus they make people disappear without trials - why do liberals love the Chinese government?

We do not need to nuke them but we need to redevelop our own manufacturing and not rely on them.

Don't we have enough cheap plastic toys by now anyway?

[oeb11]

AM recommending "Nuke China"???
A sure nuclear holocaust end to civilization.

maybe AM is a "prepper" and that is exactly what he/she/it wnts!

[Missburger]

Originally Posted by dilbert firestorm

https://americanmind.org/features/th...rty-v-america/

In wars, men die.

President Trump has taken bold and decisive steps to stop the spread of the Wuhan virus across America. In doing so, he has become a wartime president. But the enemy he is fighting is the Chinese Communist Party. Long before this crisis, the CCP was waging political and economic war against the United States. The Wuhan virus is merely another weapon in this war. As a nation we need to understand this immediately, since the first casualty has been the material well-being of the American people.

...

Although it is not the position of our government that the CCP was behind the creation and weaponization of the Chinese virus, we need to at least entertain the notion that a nation that has, in the recent past, killed tens of millions of its own people would not think twice about killing thousands or even millions of other peoples from other countries if it meant putting them in a greater strategic position and helping them fulfill their objective of a communist world order

...

We need to take reasonable measures to prevent the spread of the virus. But the President needs to get Americans back to work as soon as possible. In wars men die. This war with the CCP is no different. As precious as we Americans believe each life is, this is about our freedom and our economic ability to defend that freedom. That will only happen when we are back to work and building the industrial capacity that will free us from Communist China. This can happen none too soon.

As far as China is concerned, the end justifies the means of which they tried to do.

the only way they can be top dog on this planet is to weaken the West and USA. there can be only one major power at time.

its possible that we are seeing a replay of the punic wars. if that's not a good analogy, let me know what it is.

no its a bunch of bs

and most wars last years so please cut the bs

[oeb11]

Says One who worships Fidel, Che , and other mass murderers.

and their apologists - as Bernie - because they might have taught a few Cubans to "Read"!.

of course - that mandates complete forgiveness and fealty to the Fascist DPST's intent on their instituting Socialist totalitarianism in America.

As kalifornia is their "Model'!


Go live in cuba or venezuela - it fits the MB well!

[Tiny]

Originally Posted by friendly fred

Look at all the pollution those vehicles spew - plus the Chinese government suppresses Muslims - plus they make people disappear without trials - why do liberals love the Chinese government?

We do not need to nuke them but we need to redevelop our own manufacturing and not rely on them.

Don't we have enough cheap plastic toys by now anyway?

Yeah, if there's anything almost everyone here can agree on, it's that I'm a raving lunatic free trader. Even I see the wisdom in manufacturing masks, drugs and the like in the USA.

So finally we had a president who "gets it." He has the power under existing laws to protect protect national security by imposing tariffs. He uses that power. And what's the result? Some of the manufacture of cheap plastic toys, clothing and the like has moved from China to Vietnam, Bangladesh, etc.

Trump isn't primarily to blame for our shortage of masks, tests, drugs and the like. Europe is struggling with the same problems. But he didn't help. Perhaps someone like a George H. W. Bush would have had the foresight, and through his experience as director of the CIA and Vice President, the trust in our intelligence agencies and medical experts that would have resulted in a different outcome, like what's happening in South Korea, Japan, Taiwan, Hong Kong and Singapore right now. Who knows.

In any event we had an economy running at full steam, in part because of Trump's corporate tax cuts and deregulation, and full employment. We didn't have the people to manufacture toys and clothes in the USA. We did have the resources, if guided by government, to manufacture goods that are essential in the time of a national emergency. That didn't happen, at least as far as pandemics are concerned.

[dilbert firestorm]

Originally Posted by andymarksman

Nuke 'em!

hmm... really????

[dilbert firestorm]

Originally Posted by Tiny

It all makes sense now. We need to nuke China.

This load of crap makes about as much sense as the Chinese theory that the American military unleashed the virus.

I never said anything about nuking china...


there are better ways to do it than that.

[dilbert firestorm]

Originally Posted by Missburger

no its a bunch of bs

and most wars last years so please cut the bs

cut what out? you're not making any sense.

[dilbert firestorm]

Originally Posted by Tiny

Yeah, if there's anything almost everyone here can agree on, it's that I'm a raving lunatic free trader. Even I see the wisdom in manufacturing masks, drugs and the like in the USA.

So finally we had a president who "gets it." He has the power under existing laws to protect protect national security by imposing tariffs. He uses that power. And what's the result? Some of the manufacture of cheap plastic toys, clothing and the like has moved from China to Vietnam, Bangladesh, etc.

Trump isn't primarily to blame for our shortage of masks, tests, drugs and the like. Europe is struggling with the same problems. But he didn't help. Perhaps someone like a George H. W. Bush would have had the foresight, and through his experience as director of the CIA and Vice President, the trust in our intelligence agencies and medical experts that would have resulted in a different outcome, like what's happening in South Korea, Japan, Taiwan, Hong Kong and Singapore right now. Who knows.

In any event we had an economy running at full steam, in part because of Trump's corporate tax cuts and deregulation, and full employment. We didn't have the people to manufacture toys and clothes in the USA. We did have the resources, if guided by government, to manufacture goods that are essential in the time of a national emergency. That didn't happen, at least as far as pandemics are concerned.

a guy like George H. W. Bush was part of the problem. I do not think he would do what trump has done, it would be more along the lines of what Obama did.

[dilbert firestorm]

the only good thing about is that American manufacturing is moving out of china to avoid the high tariffs to other countries more friendly to USA.


china needs to be cut down to size. if that means more humiliation for them, so be it.

[Tiny]

Originally Posted by dilbert firestorm

a guy like George H. W. Bush was part of the problem. I do not think he would do what trump has done, it would be more along the lines of what Obama did.

Obama and George H W Bush would likely have acted earlier on in accordance with advice from medical experts and intelligence services. Both probably would be handling this crisis better than Trump. I don’t know how much of a difference that would make. The CDC and FDA were going to bungle this regardless of who was President

[oeb11]

Sounding like a Biden apologist, Tiny.

Trump closed the China border 10 days after the first case in the US.

What basis do you have for allegation that the CDC and FDA would "bungle"???
Given the enormity of the decision to shut down the economy - some deliberation time was necessary.

particularly in a country dedicated (so far) to individual freedom.